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Lets Have A Polish Judge Conduct a Trial Into The Death Of Robert Dziekanski

By Ben Meisner

Thursday, April 23, 2009 03:50 AM

Now wouldn’t it seem reasonable that in light of what has come out at the Braidwood Inquiry into the death of Robert Dziekanski that a trial should be held?

Given that the RCMP involved in the matter have changed the story more times than OJ Simpson, and given that the Polish Government has said it would like to have the four officers sent to Poland to be tried in their country under their law, maybe we should go one step further and have a Polish judge come to Canada to hear the evidence in this case and then render his verdict. The Polish judge could be expected to give the same impartial view that was given by the four officers involved in Dziekanski’s death.

In that manner the RCMP could be assured of receiving a fair hearing under the Canadian judicial system and the judge would apply that law in this instance. That way the four in question would be free following the trial to travel anywhere in the world because I fear that when the BC government is finished with their hearings the Polish government may have in mind seeking their  own justice.

Of course we will need to get some Polish police officers to view the Pritchard video and give their impartial view of what it contains.

The whole idea of the using this system is to bring before the public a completely impartial view, of course keeping in mind that if we get caught , a couple of years later we can apologize and say that we made a mistake , a small comfort to the man who died at the hands of these officers.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion


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The Polish government may very well be the only way we will ever see any sense made out of this farce.
Of course,that is assuming the canadian government even cares...which I doubt.
You think so, eh? Nice arm chair quarterbacking Ben. Inflamatory reporting sells news.

Why don't you check out the reputations of police forces in eastern europe and poland to be exact, and see if they're any better or yet, far far worse!

Your whole suggestion reeks of bias, and if a polish judge was to show any sign of bias or predisposition towards not having an open mind, then his decision could not stand anyway.

Dream on.
lmorge Ben got Ya.
It is my opinion that this incident must not be pointed to being solely the responsibility of the officers involved.
Metaphorically speaking this incident is comparable to a pimple that has finally come to a head and has popped. What remains, lying underneath and around the pimple, are human entities who have become the festering sore. These entities will continue to fester and get worse until this agency has been completely cleansed.
The existing law enforcement agency,(RCMP) needs to see everyone who is now affiliated with it, removed and be replaced by a new contractor.
A person once told me that he has never had to apologize for anything he has done in his life. When I asked him how that could be, his response was "because I always make sure I do the right thing. By telling the truth no matter how tough the truth is to tell, I will never have to apologize for what I have done and "TRUTH" is what makes sure that I will do the right thing, no matter what". The problem with this statement is that people believe they have the right to alter what is true in just about anything, to support their own needs....makes it kinda tough to find the truth in life when this happens doesn't it?
It's easy and easier for individuals and organizations to be truthful...it appears "as per the CBC late night news as well as the global noon hour news" that our law enforcement officials continue to struggle with this?
I do not believe that there is any reason for polish representation in this incident.
In my opinion it is very easy to determine what the right things are that needs to be done in this incident.
HEY BEN MEISNER YOU SHOULD DO A STORY ABOUT THIS POST ON CBC.CA


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Aaaron Evans is from PRINCE george and i dont even have a clue why he is on the streets to begin with. check out this article stating that aaron evans was sentenced to 2 years for firearms and cocaine charges.Well why is he back on the streets not even a month later.seriously CBC should investigate this..here is the other link im talking about its near the bottom of the page

http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20090312181053/local/news/arrests-made-in-wake-of-pot-busts.html

THIS ARTICLE IS FROM MARCH 12TH 2009..

why isnt mr EVANS in jail right now?

Quesnel Mounties said Thursday that a drug arrest they made on Aug. 6 has resulted in jail time for a Prince George man.
Aaron Ruel Evans was sentenced on Wednesday to TWO YEARS LESS A DAY in jail after RCMP caught him at a traffic stop south of Quesnel in possession of two kilograms of cocaine, a large amount of cash, and a loaded handgun.
yes, well now we have Wally Oppal saying that he may reconsider laying charges, of course he is in the middle of an election and so is likely to say almost anything, and then we have Elliott expressing mild non-support of his four goons, but my reading of all of this is that they are just getting ready to throw the four perps to the dogs in an attempt to cover up their own inaction, not just cowards liars and bullies, but cynical cowards liars and bullies

who knows what Poland will do? but it would certainly be a gas if they issued Polish arrest warrants and the next Mountie to set foot in Poland got picked up and jailed eh? do they use Tasers in Poland I wonder? maybe the Mountie would resist and get whacked, that would be Justice with a capital J alright

Re: Comments by Imorge.

How Canadian to think that we have the best in the world.
This obscure country of Poland might not have the best police force, but these guys are not afraid of staplers.
Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-pVIFo4hVQ&NR=1

The irony is, that when Poland was re-building its institutions incl police force in the early 90-ties after the fall of communism it looked for expamples in countries like Canada. Twenty years later it is Poland it seems, that can teach us how to manage police, dispense health care, and built a strong, influential position in the world.
Really, KZ: where is your proof?
MONIKA SCISLOWSKA, Associated Press Writer
AP Online
04-01-2000
Poland's Police Face Questions

WARSAW, Poland (AP) -- Panicky police open fire on an escaped tiger and end up killing a veterinarian. Mayhem erupts in a courtroom after gang members smuggle grenades past police guards into their own extortion trial. Officers blow up half an apartment building trying to flush out a pair of murder suspects.

And that's just this month. Little wonder that many Poles, who feared police as a force of repression under the old communist regime, now wonder whether the officers are up to their new role as protectors.

or:

Police hunt farting dissident

Police in Poland have launched a nationwide hunt for a man who farted loudly when asked what he thought of the president.

Hubert Hoffman, 45, was charged with "contempt for the office of the head of state" for his actions after he was stopped by police in a routine check at a Warsaw railway station.

He complained that under President Lech Kaczynski and his twin brother Jaroslaw, the country was returning to a Communist style dictatorship.

When told to show more respect for the country's rulers, he farted loudly and was promptly arrested.

Hoffmann was arrested and released on bail but failed to turn up at a Warsaw court early this week to be tried, and the judge in the case rejected an appeal by defence lawyers to throw the charges out.

A court spokesman said: "Such a case of disrespect is taken very seriously."

Instead the court ordered the police to start a nationwide hunt for the man, and interpol have been alerted.



WOW!
lmorge farting???? Are you making that up? Call me immature but I'm sure I'll quit rolling around on the floor here soon. Thanks for the laugh!
I am ussually smart enough not to try to speak for Ben but in this case lmorge seems to have missed Bens point in his artice. I suspect Ben may be more "stirring the pot" more than truly suggesting that the Polish system is way better. Though really, can any of us really see Ben doing such a thing?? ........heheheheheh :-)

Onto the RCMP and this whole sordid affair. It started with 4 officers who roared in a situation without any real attempt to assess and evaluate. They then reacted as though they were in a dark back alley and not in the well lit, secure area of the airport. The RCMP brass then went on to make things way worse by spreading mistruths about what happened even though the rapidly had the video and could see what went on even if the account from the officers was tainted.
It got worse and worse as the RCMP stonewalled, refusing to release the facts until months and months after the incident.

This whole incident reflects on what is by and large one of the best police forces in the world. Most of the men and women in the RCMP are there because they honestly care about their jobs and the communities they serve. When there are bad apples in a barrel, you don't throw out the whole barrel, you take the time to separate the bad apples and trow them out leaving the rest to make a damn fine pie!! :-)
Will Canadian Politicians, and the RCMP be able to handle this situation correctly, or will they continue to try and weasel out of it.

This case reflects on all Canadians and what we stand for:: If we do nothing but try and weasel out of it, what does this say for our character and our Country.
i am assuming Ben is joking, because the idea of further politicizing this issue seems more than a little rediculous. If you want a trial, push for a canadian trial. Or maybe we ought to open up our citizens for trials all over the world. A few years from now, when we are out of Afghanistan, and the Taliban is back in power, maybe Ben will want to open up Canada for the Taliban to try our citizens for war crimes (read : soldiers serving their country).
I would like to encourage Ben to take a step back and try to be more serious, and maybe even constructive, rather than just fanning the flames with rediculous ideas.
I am personally interested since my wife will be going thru the same process as Robert Dziekanski. Making me a little nervous until she appears at the arrivals public meeting area.
Well DPJ if she doesn't start ranting and raving, picking up computer monitors and tossing them around, or barricades herself into a waiting area, she should be fine and sail through customs.
While I can’t read Meisner’s mind, it is plain to see that he is suggesting ,that if the RCMP used the kind of tactics they did, then why not have an impartial Polish Judge hear a trial. Now we all know that a Polish judge would be about as impartial as the RCMP , who after seeing the video, went merrily on their way putting out a story that wasn't only absolutely false, it was a lie . They have now apologized for that, but only after the whole thing was exposed for what it was, a grand cover up.
As for Imorge's account of what took place, why don’t you get Meisner to have you on his show, with the line you are taking it would be fun to watch him chew you up and spit you out, I’d even pay a dollar for that.