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Driver Safety ...the No Non-cents Approach

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Tuesday, November 29, 2005 03:59 AM

One wonders why ICBC goes to the trouble of pointing out dangerous intersections in this city when the enforcement required goes largely unnoticed.

A case in point took place last Friday when the RCMP Traffic section set up its radar along Highway 97 just south of the John Hart Bridge. It afforded an opportunity to see first hand just how that radar trap worked in bringing the drivers under control.

The speed trap was located about 250 meters away from the intersection of 5th and the By pass. During the first left turn on to 5th from the highway, 7 vehicles turned left on the red light. On the next set of lights, turning on to Highway 97 north from 5th, six vehicles went through the red light.

I didn’t stick around because it only took two lights to see just how much effect that radar trap was having on the traffic in that area .

ICBC turns out good stats on where the accidents happen in this city. Domano and 16 west, 16 west and 97 south and indeed 5th and the By pass.

Two questions come to mind.

1. Is it easier to simply set up a radar trap, nail a few drivers and then say you’ve done your job, all the while knowing a goodly portion of that money will flow into the city coffers?
2. Is it too difficult to set up shop where you will find drivers crashing the lights in which case it may take more effort (dollars) to get the matter to court?

You be the judge!

I’m Meisner and that is one man’s opinion.


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ICBC and WCB should be charging the RCMP with unsafe blockage of the highway, hiding behind a post or bush then run out into traffic to wave over a speeder without high vis clothing and no traffic flaggers.
Has hell frozen over? I actually agree with Meisner?!!
Hart travellers have become accustomed to the regular setting up of the radar trap at 5th and the bypass, so now most of them are prepared to slow down in the event they verify site of the officers (in high viz vests) standing on the island with their radar gun pointing in their direction. The occasional "idiot" will come charging past all the other "slow moving" vehicles and get himself nailed for speeding. Hallalulia (sp) and right on....

Of course, all the red light runners have the benefit of the backs of the officers at them, so they have "no fear" of being "chased down". On the other hand, if the trap were set up in such a way that the red light runners would be caught, well then, do you think anyone in their right mind would run the red light? Me thinks not. The jerks run the lights because they have NO respect, but mostly because they are pretty confident they won't get caught.....

Mayhaps if the trap was set up with the ticket writing officers farther down 5th avenue and an undercover watcher at the lights?? We wish....
The other day we saw something that is more of a miracle then spotting a real flying saucer: Two actual incidences of commercial vehicles pulled over by the RCMP on Highway 97 South!

Usually, there is NEVER any police to catch them tailgating, speeding and passing where it is illegal to do so - on double lines!

Wow! Do they get just a warning or a real live ticket like ordinary drivers???
When ever thier is a post about traffic safty someone always bitches about trucks well you should drive one before you judge.I agree thier is some drivers who really shouldn't be on the road but that includes truck drivers and passenger vehical drivers.I drive a truck for a living and I could tell you many stories of bad drivers its got to the point that you have to drive offencively because if you drive deffencive you will get run off the road. Trucks need extra room which we don't get and with the roads getting slippery this is as dangerous as any of these other issues.As for the hyways well they are just not ment for the amount of traffic that is on them these days.I am lucky I get paid hourly most trucks on the hyway are being paid by the mile or by the trip which means the faster they go the more they make maybe this needs to change?
Last Thursday i was driving from PG to Kamloops....i was nearly ran over twice in my van....both times by BIG trucks.

First one was while i was passing slow moving vehicles headed up a hil in the passing lane.
A Quick Freight truck i was alongside decided to pass the other truck in the slow lane, and i was already along side of him. I swerved into the oncoming traffic lane ( Thank God no one was coming) and slammed on the brakes to pull in behind him.
He just continued on like nothing happened.

Then a bit south of clinton i was going around a corner and here came a rig going the other way and too fast for the corner obviously as he was also using approximately 1/3 of my lane as well. I braked some and pulled as far as i dare to the side, in fact so far over my right side tires were off the pavement and onto the gravel. behind me was a silver Cavalier, and the driver of it panicked and locked up the brakes and skidded nearly being hit by the truck.

I too would like to see more enforcement of BIG trucks for speeding etc.
And when they are heading uphill i also think they should be regulated to the right lane only.
This passing another rig that is doing 40 kms/hr while they do 1 km/hr more than it just bottle necks traffic, and never allows the other traffic to spread out.
If a rig cannot pass another in a reasonable amount of time they should not be passing period.
Because on the way home i saw yet another truck use up the entire length of the passing lane trying to get past another truck ....meanwhile i count myself and 18 others that never had the opportunity to pass as the truck blocked the passing lane the whole time....and i clocked that passing lane for fun, it was 1.8 kms long and the only vehicle that got by was the rig.

That is just RUDE !!!!!!!
fedup, I used to drive truck. Give you room? I don't even see you guys giving each other room. Sideswiping each other, passing each other on double solid lines making three lanes out of two so the oncoming trucker has room to get by, nose to tail to each other preventing vehicles from passing because they don't have time to get by two semis some times three. Drag racing down the bypass, speeding, holding up traffic going up a hill then hammer down the other side preventing anyone from passing. If you do manage to get past at over 120 km, the trucker is right on your ass blaring the air horn. I now drive a pick-up over 5,000 km a month and I see a lot of ignorant moves by truckers. I've even seen a trucker pull out in to the other lane blocking a vehicle who was trying to pass because he didn't want him to get by. I'm not saying all truckers are drive like that but a good majority of them do these days. These are not "professional" drivers but road warriors. IMO
fedup - so you have to drive offensively because if you drive "defensively" you get run over. Yup, you get run over allright, but - if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

acrider54 - you are dead bang on, truckers on our highways are dangerous fools who believe they cannot be hurt and so drive as they please. They have the safety of their big rigs between them and us, and if they leave no witnesses.....??? I for one have had way too many close calls with truckers, years ago a trucker had integrity and respect for the road and the other people on the road. If you were travelling along on a dark stormy night you could get behind a trucker and have no fear, because he would lead you safely home. Or at least as far as you were following him... nowadays, that does not happen. They would just as soon run you off the road.

But, it's not just the truckers.
You guys must look for trouble I to drive a pickup on these roads and never noticed all these problems.Yes the bypass is conjested but it is a 4 lane hyway and if trucks pass whats the problem I drive home after work and have to put up with the cars side by side so nobody can pass and if I do get to pass then I am a jerk for passing double standards.As for the passing lanes on the hyway I to have seen trucks pass and hardly get by and this drives me as crazy as you however that is why I say the roads are not ment for this amount of traffic all the passing lanes are on hills loaded trucks don't go up hill fast but sometimes this is the only safe place to pass.If you ever drive to say Edmonton, from Hinton on is sure peacefull isn't it and thier is still the same amount of trucks if not more.Anyway I no lots of people hate truck drivers and thats to bad because we are not out to harm anyone even if some seem that way.
I don't hate truck drivers, like I say I used to be one but I used some courtesy on the road.
fedup - a pickup truck and an 18 wheeler "truck", not quite the same thing. I believe when we say "truck driver", we are referring to the huge kinds!!!!