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Black Says HST All about Jobs

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Tuesday, October 13, 2009 01:07 PM

Prince George, B.C. – Minister of Small Business, Technology and Economic Development preceded the Roundtable on small business session in Prince George with a presentation to the Prince George Chamber of Commerce. 
( at right, Black  addresses the Prince George Chamber of Commerce)
While taking the opportunity to celebrate the success of small business in the region, Black spent the majority of his address on the HST.
“We are coming through the most significant interruption in the global economy since the great depression” said Black as he pointed out that Alberta had started its fiscal year predicting a $2 billion dollar surplus and 7 months later had finished the year with an $8 billion dollar deficit.
Black says the   difference between the B.C. situation with a $2.8 billion dollar deficit, and that of Alberta  was that B.C “Had the annoyance of an election which makes people ask ‘where did those $2 billion dollars go?’ “
Black firmly supports the HST  “There is no greater thing we can do to stimulate the economy than the GST.” Black says the reaction to the HST has been exactly what he had expected, “Anytime you change a taxation system people are going to stand back and ask how is this going to affect me?”
He says the HST was something that was brought up by business throughout the province during the Select Standing Committee on Finance’s  public input sessions and the Province always said no. “What changed?” asked Black, “Three things, Ontario, flexibility and $1.6 billion dollars.”
1.       Ontario. With Ontario agreeing to adopt the harmonized Sales tax, it means   items purchased by distributors in Ontario are the same items purchase by B.C,. distributors. “When that HST takes effect in Ontario, they will have a 7% price advantage over distributors here who are selling the same product.” He says the Federal government said it was not willing to move Ontario through the transition then do the same all over again for B.C. It was better to do both at the same time.
2.       Flexibility, “There are some key things that changed, first, we said we didn’t want a 8% provincial share, we wanted 7% and we wanted to freeze the system for two years and then review it.”
3.       $1.6 billion dollars  from the Federal Government for signing on “ Frankly I think that was a time limited offer as more province’s get on the band wagon, there is little incentive for others to sign on.” Black says the money comes at a time when the Province needs the cash infusion.
“Anyone who thinks this is a cash grab by the government is grossly misinformed” says Black who says the Province won’t break even on this until two or three years down the road.
“If there is one thing, one word, you should take away from this, it is jobs. It’s all about creating the environment for more jobs.”
Black says while the motto for the Olympics is higher, faster, stronger, those same words have been used to describe B.C.’s ability to come out of the current economic downturn as economic forecasters predict B.C will be the first province to come out of the recession and will see real economic growth.

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What a bunch of B.S. If this isn't about more money for the government, then why don't we take a tax cut insted of an increase? This is going to cost every British Columbian more to eat, entertain (if you still can) More for schooling supplies, gas, hydro, everything. Not about a tax grab? Give your head a shake, your eyes are stuck!
Most would view an election as your right to participate in the democratic process.
Minister Black views it as an annoyance!! “Had the annoyance of an election which makes people ask ‘where did those $2 billion dollars go?’ “
Yes, elections are annoying; same crap different people. Equally as annoying is the constant complaining about the HST. The government needs money; plain and simple. If people would stop demanding more and more from the government then perhaps we wouldn't be taxed as much. If people would stop abusing the health care system chances are it would be in better shape. If people would start demanding that people on the government payroll start putting in an honest day's work then perhaps we wouldn't be wasting as much money on them as we are. The list goes on and on but I guess it's easier to complain then it is to actually make a change. Time to end the "me, me, me" mentality that's running rampant.
harmonized, nope, its about BC gov, wanting a piece of the valueadded tax opportunity.
I'll agree with sportsman.....
I don't believe Black for a second, and that's because I have been lied to far too many times by a politician!
What if we go for the HST and it doesn't help create jobs?
Then what?
Would they take it back?
Not a chance!
What if we discover after the fact that it is costing us a hell of a lot more than we we were told it would, on even more things?
Would we be able to go back on the government for lying?
Not a chance!
They are too desparate for money to take the chance on believing them.
The logic behind the HST doesn't even make sense,unless of course your a business person,and the government will do and say anything to get it!
For Joe Average with a wife and 2.5 kids,it will only take more money out of his pocket and I'll bet we will never see the benefits from it.
But the government sure will!
I suspect the government is well aware of ,and are painting it as a great thing for the economy ratherthan fess up to just how far in the hole we REALLY are!
I call bulls**t on the HST and I call bulls**t on the B.C. government as well!
Stick around fellas. Phase 2 of the Citizens' Initiative against the HST is about to start.
Phase 2? What happened with Phase 1?
This is a tax shift - businesses pay less, individuals pay more to the tune of $2 billion a year. Big business in BC is overjoyed about it-why shouldn't they be?

My argument against the HST is that I should have had the chace to make a decision about it. Black says that Ontario was a factor in the decision to bring in the HST. This happened long before the election. Hanson spent two hours on a conference call to the federal finance minister during the election campaign-he claims not to have mentioned the HST at all.

We were blatantly lied to, no doubt about it. This policy is going to affect average British Columbians and we have absolutely no say about the passage of such a policy because we were deliberately deceived. I have been lied to about "not tearing up contracts" no sale of BC Rail, and now HST. The government clearly stated during the election it would not bring in the HST. It does not have the mandate to do this.

The issue is not the HST itself. It is the unethical manner in which this government is bringing it in. This is completely immoral. Any government member who supports it is completely without ethics, and thinks that British Columbians are idiots.
The HST is all about paying more Taxes, he must think we are all stupid, where do they find Peoples like him ?
Well said flash!
It really IS about the lying by this government.
We cannot trust an "elected representative" who lies to us, and unfortunately, they all lie!
I would think that is because they are told to lie by their fearless leader!
There is no doubt Hansen is lying,and he is not the only one!
For me,that's grounds for a recall... or a lynching!
The Liberals think we're stupid, and are counting on our apathy.
What jobs? All we do in BC is cut down trees. And there is less of that every day. Autos are made in Qweebec and Ontariario. All clothing is made in Qweebec. The trusses they are using in Wamart are made in Alberta. Go ask. The ones in the new Visions store near Walmart were made in Alberta. I asked. We make wheels for Toyotas in Richmond. What other jobs are there, besides service type McJobs? Be specific.
I agree with all those that stated what Black said was **BS**.

This is a tax grab pure and simple, and yes they do beleive we are all stupid. In fact they are betting on it for the next election.

Phase two of the HST will be when Bill Vanderzalm registers with Elections BC, and he will have a ninety day time frame to get 10% of the registered voters in every riding, to force this issue to either the Government to pass or fail as legislation, or go to a referendum

Phase two will require people in every riding to go door to door and get signatures from registered voters. People collecting these signatures must also be registered with Elections BC. The plan is to have Captains in each riding, who would arrange to have people get signatures. As an example Prince George ridings would need approx 5000 signatures each. So 10 Captains would have to get 500 signatures, or some variation.

The problem is that you have to have 10% of the registered voter in each riding. Therefore if you fall short in one riding your initiative fails.

If they are able to get the required number of signatures, and the Government votes against the initiative, and it doesnt go to a referendum, then Phase 3 will take place.

Phase Three is a plan to target certain politicians who voted against the initiative, and start a recall campaign against them.

At the end of the day, this issue should still be around when we go into the next election, and of course that is the last thing that the Liberals want. Their strategy is to have us forget it as soon as possible, and vote for them again.

I suspect that this time they have gone to far, and that they have created a problem that will stick with them for years to come.
what we seem to forget is this government needs more money to cover the cost of the Olympics.I believe that had we not had the olympics we would be in far better shape than we are now.This government has done nothing but raise taxes since they came to office and I don't see anyone in this province better off now than they were 5 years ago.If our quality of life goes down in the next 5 years at the same pace as the last 5 years we will all be in the poor house.
10% sounds like an easy number, except we only had some 30% voter turnout... in other words, there are snowballs in a very warm place right now that have a better chance than this movement. Sorry, nothing personal, just not a dreamer.
and they want to take our guns away!! Are we all so stupid??? This drunken clown ( Campbell) needs to be stopped now!!!! Have any of you got the balls to stand up, and say, "WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH" I do, and I am sick and tired of the comments on here with no substance to do anything about these thieving bastards!! Stand up damnit. This is our country, our money. These thugs work for us. Lets bring them into line!!
Get out and sign the petitions, voice your concerns, get educated about the actual costs and influence as many people as possible. We cannot allow these people to continue to run ruff shod over us any longer.
We are not stupid and we are not going to take it any longer. Stand up and be counted, be heard and be involved.

They know exactly what they are doing and we are not idiots. Shame on them. Time to run them out, and the NDP is not an alternative in my opinion.
If the Liberals are going to have any chance of making the HST issue go away without doing a reversal on it they need to do two things.

1. Make sure that they remove ministers who think that an election is an annoyance.

2. Quit talking about the HST and get down to doing the business of government rather than a PR firm.
Gus. They talk about the HST because they know they have stirred up the hornets. They are now trying to convince everyone what a great tax this is.

Interceptor. Your right this will be a tough initiative to get 10% of the registered voters. It used to be 5% but they changed it because 5% was possible. They of course dont want any initiative to pass because it causes them problems. Thats why everyone has to work hard to get this through.

Taxinapole. This is your opportunity to become a Captain, sign up some people and go door to door to get some signatures. At the end of the day we can make a difference. I agree that just complaining on these posts is not enough. PS. You should note that you complain as much if not more than anyone else, so maybe its time you took some action.

Chester. You have it right. There will be more information put out on the Vanderzalm Initiative in the next few months. This whole process will take at least a year, so the issue will be around for a long time. The Liberals want it to die and disapear, as fast as possible.

This Initiative is the only recourse we have at this time to stop this tax, and bring the Government to account. It will call for actual ***action*** by Citizens, and can be done with a concerted effort. Lets hope that people dont fall asleep and let this opportunity slip by.

Have a nice day.
I could buy into this Citizen's initiative if I believed for a second that it has a chance of repealing the Horse S*^! Tax. It can't, the deal is done, sorry. I am the last person to ever side with the government on most any issue, and I am not on their side now, I just think that they cast this deal in stone before telling us what they did. The most we can hope to change now is for them to increase the exemptions for the working class. Oh, and if what motor mouth ( Black ) said about our competitive advantage was true, then the B.C. government could have introduced changes to our p.s.t. definite B.S.
metalman.

I for one was at the center street rally and there were no more than 200 people there. Lots beeped their horns ON THE WAY BY but did not stop to support. I see more of the same in the future. Bla Bla Bla and no action. Wimps and hypocrites! Get off of your lazy arses and actually DO SOMETHING or we face losing all of our rights in the end. Government will not stop putting bills through their system which take away our rights bit by bit if we keep LETTING THEM DO IT. I can just see most of you standing like a deer caught in headlights in the end. What a bunch of sheep.
Wish I had a one word name like "Black".