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RCMP Building Costs Examined

By 250 News

Monday, October 19, 2009 09:56 PM

Prince George, B,.C.- The cost estimate for the new RCMP building now sits at $45.8 million dollars. That’s down $1.685 million since the last time the matter came before Prince George City Council, and the design of the project is not yet complete.
 
With the design at the 60% completion mark, that total project cost includes construction (estimated at $35,495,998) design, property purchase, construction insurance, furniture, equipment and demolition.  The totals include a $1.5 million dollar contingency for design, and a $1.6 million  contingency for  "unforseen" issues during construction.
 
Some of the elements of the design include 87 underground parking stalls, and 18 on the  ground level over top of the parkade.  The parkade is estimated to cost $5.5 million.  The design  calls for 20 cells. Councilor Dave Wilbur wanted to know the scope of the cost for the cell construction, the designers will  come back with what they call "a breakout price" for that cost of construction of cells.
 
Councillor Wilbur  also wanted to know the  cost per square foot of the 9.5 thousand square metre facility.  Designers weren't able to provide that information right away, but it comes out  to about $450 dollars per square foot.  Councilor Dave Wilbur  also  noted the inclusion of space for bylaw enforcement and  an emergeny operations centre are not key to the development of an RCMP detachment. 
 
Staff advises that the 90% completion of the drawings will be presented to Council in December, at which time there will need to be some decisions on the financial side of the project.
 
Councilor Cameron Stolz wants that 90%  completion  to  include the cost of  the building if the Emergency Operations Centre is removed from the design.  He has long since argued this is the wrong sport for an emergency operations centre as it on  a dangerous goods route,  too close to CN rail, and within the flood plain.
 
As far as financing goes, it is possible the City could get a maximum $400 thousand dollar grant and a low interest ( 1%) loan of $4 million dollars. If the design opts to explore the geo-thermal cooling system, then the City could apply for 50% funding for the geo-thermal ground testing portion of the project. In order to qualify for a low interest loan or the grant, the building must be built to a minimum LEED Silver standard. The HST is expected to have a positive impact on the price tag, as it could save about $500 thousand on the final construction bill. While  there  were suggestions  the tender price could be 20% lower than initially thought because of reduced construction activity, the designers admit there is no telling what the construction acitivity in the province will be by the time this project is actually out for tender, so there is no indication of accuracy on estimates. 
 
The full construction estimate won’t be known until the design has been completed. The final drawings and pre tender packages aren’t expected to be complete until sometime in the first quarter of 2010.
 
The City will have to ask the community for approval to borrow the money to pay for it.
 
As it stands now, the timetable for the project calls for financial approval process in the 1st or 2nd quarter of 2010, tender and construction start in the 2nd or 3rd  quarter of next year, and completion of the project in the 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2012.
 
Councilor Dave Wilbur maintains this is the wrong time, the wrong place and the wrong design for the RCMP detachment and voted against pursuing  grant applications.
 

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Wow, I'm impressed by the nerve of the city to be persuing this cadillac of Police stations in a time of definite hardship in Prince George. Considering the state of the forest industry, I'm pretty sure the residents of your fine city will resounding approve this spend! :) The folks down on Patricia Blvd need to get a grip, your streets are falling apart, your tax base is shrinking, but your city council is spending like there is no tomorrow... best of luck with that! But I suppose your rather impressive crime rate deserves the swanky new digs for the Queen's own Cowboys...

Not missing PG from Calgary AB
"Councilor Dave Wilbur maintains this is the wrong time, the wrong place and the wrong design for the RCMP detachment and voted against pursuing grant applications."

1. this is the wrong time - I disagree. Prices will start to go up shortly

2. the wrong place .... most definitely!!!

3. the wrong design ..... even more definitely!!!! We need an independent auditor to review the design from the point of view of functionality and affordability. Neither the RCMP nor the City can be trusted anymore.
Let the federal government and the RCMP pay for their own fancy new building. I am sick to death with these projects that our city keeps spending money on. Study this and study that. Come on!!!!! Enough already! Renovate the one they are in.
Take a look at the roof angles, very complicated. Expensive to build and even more expensive to maintain in a winter climate.Looks like a product of someones drug induced dream. Keep it simple and it will cost less to build and far less to keep up. We are already looking after too many architectual legacies.
And what is the big attraction ( to us ) of all these grants? I think that the money for any sort of government grant must have been sourced through taxation, so is it really a bargain for the taxpayer? No. Close to a reported million bucks in total for geothermal, what is that, a fifty year pay back? I heard the other day that the payback period for the Duchess park school geothermal system is estimated at thirty years, and that was only a half million dollars. In thirty years, some of that equipment will have to be replaced, basically any mechanical equipment with moving parts lasts twenty years, after that, it could fail anytime.
Are twenty year replacements, and interest costs on the money factored into the estimated payback period? I sincerely doubt it. We need to look at renovation for the new cop shop, either the building they are in now, or the one at 4th and Victoria.
metalman.
get a grip, this is a police station, not your local country club!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is council considering geo-thermal for this project? Only a few months ago council wanted to burn biomass and generate heat for buildings downtown. Have they finally figured it out that burning biomass adds to PM 2.5 pollution and unless developed on a large co-generation scale is not cost effective?
105 parking stalls. Are the bad guys going to leave their cars in the lot while in remand? Seems like a lot of parking stalls. Maybe when the cops come to work they will use the under ground parking for their private vehicles. This way their autos will be protect from being vandalized as happens to the general public when parking downtown.
I can just imagine the size of the tax increase next year and the propaganda telling us how great a deal we are getting. The new communications manager should get his workout on this one.
Wow, I am speechless, is this a new fancy hotel, no, read the headline, RCMP building. 45.8 million and rising no doubt. Someone's wishful thinking. I feel sorry for the people in Prince George, your tax bill will in no doubt increase for this fancy building. Again, it appears that city council has no problem in increasing taxes at every whim.