Conspiracy theorists, start your blogging.

(oh, and you'll likely be at least 65% right...)

I don't even want to know which orifice you pulled that 65% number from.

It is long overdue.
Kennedy should have been a memory a long time ago.
In reality,his positon should be rotated on a regular basis after a reasonable amount of time.
How many complaints ever went against the RCMP?
Are we to assume they are ALWAYS in the right and do all the right things?
Many time they are,but every time?
Not likely.
This move will hopefully go a long way to improving the public's faith nhe Complaints Commission.

Unlikely Andy. People will be suspicious of the RCMP no matter what.

Hey MrPG how's it going? Don't be so negative I really truly believe a few tweaks here and there and it can be respected once again. Have faith. Once something hits rock bottom it has no choice but to get better.

The province is negligent in not providing a provincial solution to RCMP unaccountability IMO. The provincial liberals and ndp should be held politically accountable for now on for RCMP irregularities that trample on our civil liberties in their rush to prejudge with blunt force and tazers... the provincial liberals and ndp do little to protect the public, because that is not a special interest group that funds their party headquarters. BC needs a political option that will respect the rights of BC citizens to a fair and just system of law and order for everyone and all stakeholders in society... IMO BC needs its own police force with direct political accountability to the public for its top boss.

Those Provinces with Provicial Police Forces seem to have all the same issues with their police departments.

Eagleone, when I read crap like you just wrote it makes me realize that you are likley well schooled, but not in common sense! I love your grand ideological statements like "fair and just system of law and order for everyone and all stakeholders in society."

"Hey MrPG how's it going? Don't be so negative I really truly believe a few tweaks here and there and it can be respected once again. Have faith. Once something hits rock bottom it has no choice but to get better."

Doubtful. For some people, the RCMP will always be viewed in a negative light. There will always be isolated incidents that reinforce this. Remember, there is no perfection.

I agree MrPG... for the most part.
The problem is as I see it, when something does go wrong and the RCMP screw up,it is sluffed off and there is never any sense of accountability for their actions.
I think that is what bothers most people more than anything, and the long term result is serious mistrust.
They are not always in the right.
Reigning in the loose cannons makes more sense that burying it when you are trying to restore a badly tarnished image.
Most RCMP members do a damn good job without a doubt,but when and if they make mistakes,they need to answer for them and the public needs to see that.
What we see now is far too much arrogance toward the public in the upper reaches of the RCMP, not actually with the rank and file memebers out on the street doing the work!

And I agree with you.. for the most part. I would ask you this... who gets to decide what 'accountable' means? If people didn't get arrested, and if they did, were compliant, most of the problems wouldn't happen. But unfortunately, people do get arrested and are non-compliant -- this is where things often go sideways.

For some people, the RCMP will never be good enough. The media will continue to sensationalize the isolated incidents, and the court of public opinion will continue to render its verdict based on the media slant of the story. And we wonder why the RCMP are so tight-lipped sometimes.

Actually Andy there are quite a few arrogant ones on the street as well. We all went out one night years ago and one of the guys who was a cop urinated on the boston pizza wall before going in. Inside I kept asking him if he had to go pee and wow the glare I got as his partner was sitting beside him.

A few more examples of others but I don't need to get into that just will give that one example.

sigh....where to start hey? What a job it will be to clean it all up but I'm sure things can get better than what it is today.

Moving story Heidi! Try to find a male in this world who has not pissed on a building somewhere. That cop should be fired and maybe even jailed. WAKE UP!! There are arrgonat people in every line of work and that includes police officers. I bet cops meet a few arrogant people when investigating crimes. I can't believe you even shared that story.

I know but sometimes it's easier to give an example than to try to explain. My point was there needs to be an attitude adjustment towards others at all levels. SHow more respect for property and the public. If it has to start with something as minor as peeing on the wall then be it. It was a restaurant.

I gave that example because it shows clearly this guy had little respect to offer just by that small gesture. That small gesture gave a huge message.

it could be that mr kennedy was doing his job, and the RCMP would prefer someone a bit more incompetent.

Why should Heidi be criticised for telling us of an occasion when she saw an RCMP officer "exposing himself in a public place", because that is the description given when men are charged with doing that. Whether on or off duty police officers have to obey the law like the rest of us, and his partner should have done something about it, or do we now condone one police officer protecting another?

Good point ammonra!

No his partner had no idea (didnt seem like the type to pee on wall either, real good guy) and I never told. They were inside already. I just made him uncomfortable in front of his partner after hoping he'd get the hint not to do it again.


Speaking of off topic! I'm bad for that.

My error, then.

There is no way a member in uniform on duty and in public view would have done what heidi says happened.

I disagree Imorge, sorry! Imorge, protect the good ones on your force, but please, expose the BAD ones And as for "uppercanadian", wow, you are really on the defensive!

"I bet cops meet a few arrogant people when investigating crimes"

I'll bet they do, but shooting them in the back of the head is a little extreme don't you think? This started out, when Ian Bush was having a beer in public. This whole incedent "stinks" of cover up.

If you want to bring back the death penalty, it really should be imposed after the individual has been found guilty by a court of his peers! Not by some young punk RCMP, feeling his/her oats! I don't think, having an opened beer in public would qualify for the death penalty! Nor do I think the RCMP, have the right to JUDGE.

It is time to send the RCMP packing. Put them out to pasture with their horses. It is time for us to have a Provincial Police Force, and a Municipal Police Force in communities over 50,000 people.

The RCMP, scaled down, could become the Federal Bureau of Invetisgation - Canadian Version. FBICV

Just a thought, but something needs to be done soon.

"uppercanadian", what message are you trying to give us through your "title".

Are you insinuating, that you are above most Canadians?? As you would probably put it, "lower canadians"!

I find you disgusting, to say the least! You appear to be a bottom feeder, giving the law providers of this country, a very tarnished image!!

lmorge he wasn't on duty. We were all out one night at the Caddy (years ago) then went for something to eat. Believe me I couldn't believe it either.

I told that event to show the attitude some people have. Some personalities just don't make good police officers is the point.

Well off duty cops are allowed out to socialize too, but if he really was a cop and he did what he did, then why didn't you complain about it via a code of conduct complaint? Nothing is going to happen unless you do something about it.

And samian, you can say what you wish about the Bush affair, its your right...however your wishes about municipal forces and a provincial force will never come to pass. For many reasons.

uppercandian?
metalman.

I honestly at that time in my life never thought to complain. I don't know why? I was hoping I guess he'd wake up the next morning sober and know better. He was pretty uncomfortable when he thought I was going to say something in front of his buddy. Maybe if it was strike 3 I would've complained? I don't know lmorge. What would my complaint have done?