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RCMP Unveils New Downtown Unit

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Monday, March 01, 2010 04:10 AM

Prince George, B.C. - The Prince George RCMP detachment may have had its recent request for three new officers turned down, but city council's decision hasn't stymied the force's effort to shift from a reactive to a more proactive approach.

A new Downtown Enforcement Unit, comprised of one corporal and five officers, will be introduced at news conference in front of the PG Hotel later this morning. 

RCMP Superintendent Brenda Butterworth-Carr says this is not a service enhancement.  She admits if council would have approved the RCMP's 2010 budget request, the boost in the number of general duty officers would have put the detachment in a more proactive position, based on a strategic assessment done back in 2006.

"(Instead,) the downtown enforcement unit was created through the re-structuring of our resources within the detachment," says Butterworth-Carr.  The DEU will be unveiled with the mayor and members of the Downtown Task Force. "This is a community effort in order to resolve some of the issues that we're encountering."

Butterworth-Carr noted in her release of the city's 2009 crime stats last week that a spike in personal crimes is a sign that RCMP efforts in the community are working, and people are feeling comfortable enough to come forward with their complaints.  She says it's efforts like being involved in the Mayor's Task Force, the team policing concept used in the downtown, and now this DEU that are/will make a big difference.

"It has equated to a sense of confidence and that's the feedback that I'm receiving at the detachment."  She says she's hearing it from city councillors, from business people and others in the community...that they're feeling more comfortable in being able to walk downtown, as a result of the RCMP's presence and programs.

 


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Maybe they should bring back the RCMP bike patro that we once had.
But definitely a stong police presence would be a good start....
Now that there is no more PG Hotel, they feel safe making an announcement in front of the hotel's ghost?

Is this sort of a symbolic way of saying "your hotel will be next in our proactive approach?"
Just what the down town needs is more police. Wonder why there are no donut shopes in the area.
Cheers

This can only be viewed as a positive situation.

More Police downtown will keep things under control

I dont know about anyone else, but I have noticed a significant difference in the downtown in just the past month or so.

The removal of the PG Hotel and the Liquor Store Im sure has a lot to do with it, along with housing for the homeless etc;

Things are looking upl
More cops on the ground downtown can only be a positive thing in my opinion.
Not only will people feel safer with uniformed police officers walking the sidewalks, but the less than desirable elements will surely have to clean up their acts or move to where there is less heat. That brings me to the question; where will the street people hang out if the cops make it to uncomforatble for them in their usual haunts? Oh, and are the cops going to be on patrol 24/7 downtown? a lot of the more serious crimes take place after dark.
metalman.
Why don't we just bring in the army. I bet you folks be all for that eh. random killing be real cool for ya. How about we just take our freedoms away. Bet ya love that eh. AK47's strapped to the RCMP's belt. Sounds like a good plan doesn't. I suppose we should start gassing people too. Anyone hanging around downtown will be put in a work camp and starved to death. Awe hey to hell with the law of the land lets just shoot them on the spot eh. This is what I read from you people every day. More jails and more cops. Sounds like ya all got good plan eh. Eh metalman, Palopu , gus. BC racer and everyone else that posts. Because this is the society in which you people want on this site. Never mind anything else. Kill the pot heads and what ever isn't white and right eh. Sounds like a great place to live eh. Not.............
I'd rather see cops than have the criminals and scumbags running the streets, that's for sure.

For someone supposedly living 'downtown', chris hasn't noticed that the downtown is a mess and people don't want to go down there.
Chris - after reading your post and the others after this article they are not even close to suggesting what you say they do in your response.

I am for more police downtown.

Metalman - I do believe that same question is on a lot of peoples minds!! should be interesting to see where they will go!!

So I am right you people are all for what I posted. There are places on the planet that you can move to that allows for the things I posted. But I want to live in free society not a dictatorship.
Chris it is not a dictatorship, it is a city trying to clean up the downtown, so what you are saying is we the tax paying people should just step aside and let all the riff raff take over downtown!! well if that is the case then fine fence it in with an electric fence and don't let them out, they can all stay down there and do what they want in their area!!

HOWEVER, I pay taxes and I am not going to stand aside and let what used to be a beautiful part of town continue to deteriorate!!

AND last time I checked there were no people down there starving, they are handed more money in a month I am sure than a lot of honest working people make by having a job!!

FUTHERMORE I am NOT WHITE!! and I still want to see the downtown core cleaned up!!
Good post Anastasia. Very amusing that chris has tried to turn this into a racial issue.
Right now, the riff raff is restricting the movement of the public in the downtown, as many are afraid to go down there, especially families. Aggressive panhandling and drugs are out of control and they need to be curtailed.

Sorry chris, the rights of the law-abiding public outweigh the rights of the criminals.
Is it possible that this initiative will cut into Chrislivingdowntown's livlihood? He does make a lot of references to smoking and selling pot.
So you want a police state. Thats what you are wanting. I know no other place in Canada that does this. I have lived all over BC, Alberta and the province of Ontario and never I have seen such depression in one place. Who's fault is it. The downtown crowd. Come on be real. It's the people that run the place is what is wrong here. I mean 12 to 15% unemployment. No where else but here. Maybe Windsor Ont. As most on here know I was in London Ontario for a month and read what was going on here on this site while gone. Most asked me why such a pretty place is so messed up. What was I going to say. My sister telling me that she could see my city was suffering and has for years. Look you can make it a police state all you want. They only folks that are going to make money here is law enforcement. Not such a good thing to make PG into. A great place for crime and being a cop. You know I said while in Ontario I see when I get home how the city wants to run the show here. Because straight up I am not going to stay here buy a piece of land if all it's going to be is a draw for cops and crime. It has to be something more to keep folks here. I am forty years old now. I am not going back to school anytime soon. So UNBC and CNC is not going to be what I want. It's good service jobs and a growing thriving community is what I want to see. It's you as people that have been here since you were born that is going to bring jobs. If not then the bottom will fall out here and nobody is going to care. I guess it's up to you as you say the tax payers. Since that is all I hear on here how much taxes you pay bla bla bla bitch bitch. But if you can't get a vision then people like me will leave and PG will fall. I can always go back live with my Dad that is getting on in age now. But police state is not what I came here for. Enough said Chris ..............
Chris - the working man has always complained about taxes that is one of the many benefits from WORKING you should try it some time!!

I have been here 20 plus years and it is people like you that keep the downtown from improving and continue on the downhill slide it is on now!!

boo hoo poor homeless people, boo hoo poor addicted people!!! well get over it and get on with life!! become a part of the solution no the problem!!!

I would MUCH rather see families downtown, and if I am going to see bare breasts I would rather it be a breastfeeding mother instead of some of the "girls" trying to entice their next "partner".

I too was homeless and a drug addict for many many years but that was more than 18yrs ago (when there wasn't as many services out there to "help" or as I see most of them "hinder any sort of recovery", I NEVER NEVER NEVER slept in door ways, urinated, deficated in the middle of the streets or panhandled or asked the gov't for hand outs!! I never blamed my family or society for where I was at that time in my life!!

Society now a days is too busy blaming everyone else but themselves for where they find themselves in life!! people and I don't mean just the ones downtown, but EVERYONE needs to wake up and realize that it does take a whole community to not only raise a child but to make the community healthy!!!
oh ya I forgot to add that I would much rather have a street full of RCMP officers than what is there now!!!
Imorge is on the money. Chris has admitted on this board that he enjoys his pot. Agree with the law or not, as it stands today that is illegal. Your name suggests that you live downtown. If you live downtown and partake in illegal activities than its not a big reach to be against RCMP officers downtown.
Who says I live downtown now anyways. I haven't for a while now. But kept the name. Who says I don't work or pay. I know from living in other parts of Canada that other communities don't have to have a police state to keep order. Maybe it's the trash that live here that make it that way. I was never addict. I am to good for that. I don't need to be addicted to nothing expect fitness that changed my life and a lot of people be better off if they did the same....... Chris not living downtown anymore dudes.
And yes I do smoke weed. Try keeping up to me. Pot does nothing to harm my workouts or my over all health never did and never will. But if you wish to bash me for it fine have at er. I guess thats why you people hide on this site. Nothing else to do expect bash others. To bad I can't post my name I know I have a facebook full of my workouts for the last four years. Proof that weed does nothing to harm human beings. It's the Americans that brain washed yer brains is what is wrong here. I suggest if yo like police state then move to the United States then. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out. Take Harper with ya too.
So you're part of the problem with supporting the gangs in this town. Great. Maybe you're the one that should move... and take your gang buddies with you too.
They only people that say weed supports gangs is the RCMP. I don't know any gangs. None so I don't know where these cops get their intel but it's not gangs that just grow weed in British Columbia or anywhere else in Canada.
tit for tat over and over and thats what has been more or less the problem. Neo cons vs people that have been partaking in something for 10 thousand years. Time to move on isn't.
Judging for the maturity level in your posts, I would have guessed you were high school age, maybe a little older. Who brags about their workouts and keeping track of it on their Facebook page? Certainly not a 40 year old man, as you claim.

Yes, you're supporting the gang activity in this town, no matter how much you try to deny it. Sorry to have to be a buzzkill.
Listen man I have lived my life based on fitness in the last four years and it has changed my life because of it. To me that is very much worthy of posting on any social network site. This is just starting to piss me off and this debate should stay in the past where it belongs. My parents gen had this same debate in the 60's and that is where it should of stayed. Pot doesn't harm anyone and the only thing bad about it is that it's still not legal. Police need to get real crime not some dude smoking a joint in his back bloody yard. I buy land here cops come without a warrent they will be met with a very big mean dog. Being RCMP they will shoot the dog that is how inhumane they are. Posting fitness pictures and video on facebook is the least we need to worry about. Enough fat kids out there maybe they should look and see if some old forty year old can keep in shape maybe I could get my fat ass away from the computer and go workout.
I buy land here cops come without a warrent they will be met with a very big mean dog.

Chris how humane is it to train a dog to be vicious??

AND

what are you doing on that land that the cops would even be interested in you?

I find it very interesting on how so many people bash the RCMP everyday, all day long, but yet when something bad happens to them, who do they call?? no not ghostbusters!!! sheesh people!! LOL

The RCMP are just people in uniform, people that give their lives to protect ours, to keep our streets safe, to keep our city safe, I for one am very proud of RCMP not only in our city but across the country as well as the City Police in larger centres!! THANK YOU

Cops never did nothing for me. And if I do call them the least they can do is do their job. Cops make victims out of everyone. I haven't yet met a cop that isn't a power tripper. RCMP make me sick. I rather a lynch mob. Kill all the lawyers. The way it ought to be. Get rid of our government and start all over with real hero's not slaves.
lol didn't like my last post eh. Maybe you guys are lawyers lmfao
Oh boy! Laughing my derriere off too! The cops are coming!! We live in a police state! Kill all the lawyers! Get rid of the government! Talk about paranoia!! So, inquiring minds want to know...Are you one of the heros?

Look up Schizophrenia + marijuana by typing those words into a Google search box.

You'll find the information proving it's true that most people can smoke pot without ill effects; but it's also proven to be true that a small % of pot-smokers are tipped into Schizophrenia especially if they smoke pot at an early age.

This sad fact should be more widely understood. I'm not sure if alcohol messes up some people's brains too, but it seems likely that it does.
Oh brother I hope you are not telling us all that alcohol doesn't mes up your brain. I mean ask anyone who goes to a AA meeting. Now as long as the person is 17 years old marijuana won't hurt the brain. The reason 17 is because the brain still is in growth by that time. We have to attract folks on this site who have knowledge of this weed. Not media hype and propaganda.
Great! Pot is safe! Doesn't affect the brain.... Sorry, but a large percentage of the potheads I knew in my youth and now as an adult all have a few things in common. They believe that everyone is out to get them. They believe that all of their problems are brought upon them by others (usually the police, government, and anyone that disagrees with them). They believe that pot doesn't affect them negatively in any way. They never see themselves as being part of the problem. They expect the world to bend over backwards for them and listen to them because they know everything. And, most of the non-recreational users that I knew/know never seem to get too far. As for all of the research that some people seem to like to wave around that says pot is not harmful, there is just as much research out there that says the exact opposite. I'm sure that there will be some really good responses to this. Please let them be intelligent.
I dont think you need to go much beyond Chris' posts to tell what it does to the mind... my 15 year old read them and said "whats wrong with that guy?"
Thank you for the PSA.
So Chris you think you are safe from pot because you are over 17 then look up pot and myocardial infarction (heart attatch) in the same search.

Oh brother the debate goes on. Alright I am done with this.
Chris, Chris, Chris,
How this degenerated from a positive step for our town to a debate on pot, only you can speak to.
First off, your grammar and punctuation free prose does not lend any credibility to your opinion. If you review your "posts", it is easy to see the Anarchist inside and one can also see the results of anarchy. no group larger than two can function without the rule of law. That is why anarchy can never succeed. We need laws and this is the style of governing that we have. Deal with it or go into politics to change the system from within.

Second,you and I want change in the legal status of pot, but I think for much different reasons. There are effectively two (2) issues. First is of the potential fiber source to replace or enhance the wood fiber supply. The second, and this is the one that is tripping every one up, is for the personal consumption. Some say it is medicinal, some just want to recreate. Either way it is currently illegal and the police are charged with the responsibility to enforce the laws created by our government. whether you agree with the law or not, the RCMP are just doing their job. I do give them a ruff rub as often as possible for only busting grow ops, and not busting the other prohibited substances, that is only as a means to express my discontent with the law. On the whole they are actually fine people and must have a good hearts to tolerate the BS directed at them for doing what they are supposed to.

third, you have expressed with great pride the fact that you workout. Further more you have posted on your facebook pictures of your buff body. Being healthy is one thing and we should encourage our youth and everyone to live a healthy lifestyle. Being a gym rat roid freak is not a positive thing. I do hope that your body building is all natural. I do hope that you have other activities other than the weight room and a dube. You really need to get out and socialize, your isolation is showing.

fourth, personal attacks and name calling with a dose of defensiveness only antagonizes every one and they WILL reflect those perceived feeling back to the sender. I am suggesting to you to use the moderator that you have been ignoring in your head. Think about what you want to say, write it out, READ IT OUT LOUD, then after corrections, post. There are many wonderful English grammar books at the local library and the College library. Academic upgrading to grade 12 is free in BC.

The only way to win the fight is to win on your opponents terms (Book of 5 Rings). If you cannot battle in their arena, they will not come to yours, so you have lost. You must attend the arena where the opponent is. To translate for you, the only way we (yes you and me) can get the laws changed is to change public opinion AND create a situation where our elected leaders want to listen and want to enact our desired changes. In short, we need to get the majority of politicians on our side of the argument with an impetuous for change.
I am no roid freak jerk off.
Another thing I got a brother who is a political scientist. I am on disability for pesonality disorder bigots.
How you feel now empowered I am sure.
I survived S.I.D.S as a child it was in the Windsor Star goofs. YOU DON'T KNOW ME SO BUGGER OFF. I state my opinion it's my right. My great grand father was a world war 1 Vimy Ridge war hero. My grand father was merchant navy and grandma was British Royal Navy. They fought so I could live here with a disabilty. So bugger off. What did your family do jerk offs.
chrislivingdowntown says, and I quote: " Cops never did nothing for me". After reading that sentence I would like to add neither did your high school English teacher.
I am done with this bullshit site
To coin a phrase from the Dukes of Hazard, Chris, you can always brush this site off by saying, and I quote, "This site don't make me no never mind". Now that's a direct quote from Uncle Jessie. And he knew how to express himself so good that I remember like it was yesterday. And as an aside, I don't use no double negatives. Not no more since I was teached not to.