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Air Quality Meeting Tonight In Millar Addition

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Wednesday, March 10, 2010 03:59 AM

Prince George, B.C.- Tonight, members of the public are invited to attend a special meeting in the Millar Addition about the recent revelations of high readings of formaldehyde in odour sampling.
The meeting has been organized by the People’s Action Committee for Health Air along with the Millar Addition Citizens Coalition.
The meeting is set for 7 at the Sacred Heart School gym on Patricia Boulevard. PACHA President, Dave Fuller is hopeful the session will answer a lot of the questions about formaldehyde and the possible sources for it in the August 2008 odour samplings.
Besides the health concerns over the presence of the chemical, Fuller says there is a bigger issue about the information getting out to the public. “I don’t want to beat up on the Ministry of Environment staff. I know they tried at least three times to release this information. Clearly there has to be a change in policy somewhere because the information was not getting out.”
Fuller has a great deal of praise for local Ministry of Environment employees, “They live here, they want better air quality too. I know there has been great work by people like (Ministry of the Environment employees) Maureen Bilawchuck and Dennis Fudge. ”
Fuller says while there have been some improvements to Prince George’s air quality, there is still a great deal of work to be done “There is no reason why Prince George has to be the smelliest community in B.C., Powell River has changed, and in Ontario, Ottawa has changed, so it can be done.”
New projects in the works at Canfor will make major changes to the amount of sulphur in the air, reducing it by 40-60% and Pacific BioEnergy has plans to reduce is particulate levels by 60%.  Fuller says Husky has made some improvements at the refinery and the asphalt plants have also made changes which have significantly reduced emissions.

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Formaldehyde, isn't that the stuff Mr.Clean's scrub pads are made from?

“I don’t want to beat up on the Ministry of Environment staff. I know they tried at least three times to release this information. Clearly there has to be a change in policy somewhere because the information was not getting out.”

This is very disturbing. Somebody higher up the political food chain was obviously blocking the release of the information. I'm curious as to who that was and when we will be accepting their resignation. (rhetorical question as I know it will never happen.... the resignation)
I hate that word "fudge"

What does that mean.

"The ministry of environment tried three times to release the information"

Computers down, bring your children to work days,ministry party,missing files.

A report merely had to be published in say..The Prince George citizen(LOL) Opinion 250...The Province..The Sun.

Or god forbid, on the ministry of environment web site.

How does that saying go.."Three strikes and your out"

No,it went like this, three strikes and oh well, we give up!


http://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/2010/03/gordon-campbell-turned-his-back-to.html


Good point Pylot Project and something thata is being missed.
WHO made the decision to keep this information confidential?
Someone obviously verbally said...keep this under wraps.
So who was it?
They have some serious explaining to do!
I smell a politician!

Mr Jimmi, Someone is in full damage control, BC Local news is trying to stamp the story,but my friend,they are amateurs,as you can see from what I cut and pasted below directly from your link.

BC Local news is saying the story WAS REPORTED and NOT TO GET ALL HYSTERICAL..

But if you read what they reported..In Aug/2008 an ordour event occurred..Then BC Local news states they reported the story in the Prince George Local news, so they did...BUT THEY REPORTED THE STORY ON MAY 20,2009..10 MONTHS LATER!!!!!!

WOW...10 month later...That`s much better than 18 months later..And the story writer in your link has no AUTHOR...And still why weren`t the local people in MILLAR ADDITION TOLD...Sorry Mr. Jimmi..Your link is merely someone in full blown damage control!

The Below information was cut and pasted from Mr Jimmi`s Link to BC Local News.


“On Aug. 3, (2008) during a strong “odour incident,” Prince George air tested at up to 842 odour units per cubic metre … A chemical analysis of the air showed no consistent pattern contributing to the smell. One sample had over 1,000 micrograms per cubic metre of formaldehyde, but the others didn’t. Some had trace levels of hydrogen sulphide, volatile organic compounds, acetone, diethyl sulphide and other chemicals.”

Prince George Free Press,May 20,2009
This is much like the B.C.Rail case.
Someone in the Liberal cabinet ordered the destruction of any and all emails prior to 2004.
WHO it was that did that is unknown, and the Campbell government is not telling.
Another example is that the NDP asked the question as to what Patrick Kinsella actually DID for his $300 thousand bucks in the B.C.Rail/CN deal.
No answers there either.
The list goes on and on so why are we suprised at anything that happens?
We can only assume this is one damn dishonest government and eventually,it WILL catch up with them.
And probably sooner than their arrogance allows them to think!
One more thing Mr. Jimmi...A generic air report in BC Local news in May 20.2009..

No warnings, no alert, how many average folks would read that and make heads or tails over it?

People don`t know what micrograms mean, people need to be told.."DANGER DANGER DANGER"

Not techno Geek speak! And not 10 months later!

Nice try PAB...(Public affairs bureau)
May 20/2009..BC Local news in Prince George reports "softly about bad air"

One week after the BC ELECTION!!!

While BCers were in shock over a massive $3 billion dollar defecit announced right after the election! What happened to

"$495 million dollar deficit maximum,not a penny more"

Are you people getting the picture yet?
It appears the media is in on the damage control.
Opinion 250 excluded.
This is being treated like there was no story there to report.
There was a time when they would get right to the dirty details on anything like this,but it seems that no longer applies with main stream media.
Why is that?
Why do we have this hands off approach when it comes to anything related to the Campbell government?
Why, I could remember the black snow from when I was a youngin. The fresh smell of chlorine wrenching in the back of your throat as you gasp in the Prince George Air. We don't have black snow, and those days of the strong smell of rotten eggs coming down the old airport hill to the CN train bridge are gone.

So we have a little formaldehyde. it smell bad, well too bad. You ought to come over to my house when a bunch guys sit around play card, when we start passing gas. You want bad smell, I'll can some for you to know what bad is.

I'm sorry, but some formaldehyde may be industry based. but I would suspect it would be the fact that there are more diesel burning pick up trucks than ever before. Unfortunately, Prince George Central is in a bowl, and if there is a inversion, it just keeps building up. What ya expect.



I wouldn't be worried so much about the formaldehyde killing ya, I would be worried about the crap we eat when we buy prepared food and frozen food. That's what really gonna get us.

Way to many perservatives in the prepared food we eat, and the canned pop. one can a pop won't hurt you. But a can of pop, every day will. So what about all this prepared food that is frozen, canned and dry. It taste yummy in our tummy, but we are addicted to chemicals and salt.

Many of us has changed their lifestyle, and cook from the basic food ingredients. But many still live on prepared food. This is where health Canada needs to do better information to the public. yada yada yada
Formaldehyde will be blamed on a lot of things,but rest assured,it will NOT be blamed on industry.
Yes, He Spoke, there are lots of harmful things out there. Nobody debates that. However, we have a choice as far as what we choose to eat. We don't have a choice as far as breathing.

Life expectancy is lower here and cancer rates are higher. Is that the price we have to pay to make a buck?
I have come down the airport hill many times this winter and Cowart Road,the smell of sulphur and other pollutants have been fairly rank.No,I am not a new resident to P.G.,as I have lived here for thirty eight years,so the stench is not new to me.This crap being spewed out into our airshed cannot be good for people no matter how large or small the readings are,especially for anyone who has lived here for any length of time.
what a idiotic stance, 'he spoke'. dinosaurs like you who lived here before the boom and believe breathing in a fog of industry-based chemicals is just how it is here, are dying off...what we have in prince george now is a lot of young families, some like myself born and raised here, and others who have moved for their careers, who no longer believe this is an acceptable way to live. children should not have to live like this, facing higher risks of cancer than other places in bc. yes i have a choice to live here, and i want to live in a city with clean air. so you can ramble on, and your buddies and you can grow even more senile as you complain about those hippies who actually believe the air quality in prince george can improve even past the point of ridding ourselves of the chlorine smell.

anyone who believes industry is improving things is crazy. i've lived here for 30 years and the smell coming in from the airport is just as bad as it was when i was a kid. the 'who farted?' joke that my dad would lay on us as 8 year olds is now being recycled by me on my son. we are finally waking up and realizing that we can organize and we can change things. leave the dinosaurs where they belong. silent and in the past.
I'm glad someone pointed out the May 2009 article. I couldn't figure out why it didn't create the same flurry of activity as this latest media coverage has. As has been pointed out already, the article didn't make a big deal out of the numbers. The average person reading it is going to assume it's a little high maybe, but as most people don't know the standard levels, they would never have known it was 18 times or whatever it was. I certainly wouldn't have known and the article didn't make it sound very pressing.

I wonder why the reporter didn't go to the trouble of finding out and/or reporting how high above the norm that was? And if there was no cover up or lie-by-omission, why did the MoE claim they didn't tell us because they wanted to avoid panic? They now seem to think we were told. Or were we?

I would like to know how many residents in the Millar Addition drive diesel trucks and how many of them live close to the testing station.