Booze, drugs and suspected stolen property. Birds of a feather?

I can only hope that pictures, fingerprints, names an addresses were gathered, logged and compared.

Then appropriate searches of each of their places of residence. You never know what will turn up. Percy

Sure, Percy, but do not hold your breath!!!!
They are probably all safely tucked in their own beds by now.
So called police investigations must consist of name, address, (not checked), and one can assume no one rightfully claims any drugs or property.
In all probability, it ends here and now.
Do we ever hear of any follow ups and convictions??? NOPE!!!!
If the residence was a rented one, I sure do feel sorry for another landlord.
Tough business to be in.
Costly, and no recourse.
Somehow, something has to be done about the drug useage. It is available to even the very young. Why has it become an uncontrollable situation?? If there is any true police presence, they know many of the sources, I am sure, so why isn't more of an effort made to jail the pushers for long periods of time, and have no let up on them, and no mercy shown?
Why do B & E artists basically remain unscathed by any detrimental actions by our justice system?? They are not even slapped on the wrist any longer-just get a "go away" signal by the law.
Talk about a "screwed up" society-we are really living in one.
Can it be fixed???

Can it be fixed? Maybe, if, in my opinion, the system gets up and tells they people that being druk, under the influence of drugs is not an excuse to be stupid. No one forced them to drink or take the drugs. If they can not act responsibly then, maybe, tougher fines or even jail, heaven forbid, may be needed. I am tired of "because of someone elses actions I did this" excuse being the reason they act out.

No I am not drunk, I just can not spell this morning. Good day all

I just love this sort of thing. They were probably ill-treated as children are now marginalized. Maybe Paul Martin will take 'em under his liberal wing and help them. If not I'm sure Krause will give them a nice place downtown with free needles.

Again, the source of the problem and how we deal with it is the real issue.

What we are experiencing are just the symptoms of a system that isn't working.

Why is it that so many can't see what needs to be done? We need an effective way to deal with the problem. The current government, federally, provincially and municipally including the Judicial system keeps *** footing around this. Are they being held hostage by the minority, the bleeding hearts of our time or just what is their resistance to change?

I'm ready for change, how about you? Percy

A few drunken rowdies on a Friday night IMO. Not much of a story here other than the fact a battering ram was used to break down the door.

IMO you have a few ring leaders of the trouble that need to be charged for obstruction of justice and the residents with possession of stolen property.

My bet is that they were all young people that haven't had the experience of finding a new home on short notice. Charge the guilty parties with something, give them a scare, and life moves on.

We've all seen this kind of behaviour at certain parties when we were teenagers I'm sure.

Do we really expect much different behaviour from that part of town....

"McArthur says when it became apparent that some females in the residence wished to leave the unruly situation, but were not being allowed to, the battering ram was used."

This is McArthur's story. Do we have the girls' story?

Which reminds me, we got the story accoring to the police in the Houston shooting in jail situation .....

When do we ever get to hear the other side of the stroy. Seems to me that people under the influence of whatever were involved there as well ......

After using a battering ram, this could have turned ugly as well. Is this how our police are trained? There must be better ways to diffuse situations such as this without escalating them where the next step could be fatal to the police or the public.

So, Owl. How would you handle things?

You must have some ideas that you think are better than the way the RCMP have been trained. Things aren't going to change until some better proposals are brought forward. Percy

Percy, I do not know how I would handle the situation since I was not there.

What I said is we have one side of the story on which, once again, some of those of us who love to post on here make a bunch of assumptions.

I just hope that if we ever have a noisy party and neighbours complain that police won't try to force the door and if they can't open it, break it down.

There is a noise by-law, which should be enforced by the City's by-law enforcement office, likely with a ticket giving a fine.

"became apparent that some females in the residence wished to leave the unruly situation"

Who caused the unruly situation? was there jsut noise, or was there a dangerous situation prior to the police arriving? How much did police involvement precipitate the events which ensued the reporting of "noise".

Wa the police presence part of the problem rather than part of the solution? Did they escalate the situation?

As I said, I have no idea. But that alternate version is quite a plausible one.

There is no law against drinking in one's own house. There is no law against getting drunk in a private house.

I do not know what the nature of the bottle throwing was. One bottle, a whole barrage of bootles; simply thrown on the driveway or lawn, or aimed at people. The aiming at officers is the officer's report. What is the thrower's report, if he or she can remember it? Wht about eye witnesses?

As someone keeps telling me, there are always three sides to a story - in this case that would be the police side, the occupant's side, and the thruth. The first two are pretty well guaranteed to be biased.

Most of those houses are owned by slum-lords. Probably could have pushed the door in--or pulled it out.

Or called them at home ... I understand at least one of them is a lawyer in town.

Hopefully some of these dirtbags had their heads cracked by the cops. Drive by shootings, biker gangs, rovings punks alll hopped up on booze and drugs, what is next? heaven forbid pregnant teens, and car crashes. LOOK out! the sky is falling.