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Pipeline Project Advisory Board Touchy Subject for Regional District

By 250 News

Thursday, April 01, 2010 03:55 AM

Prince George, B.C.- While the Enbridge Northern Gateway twin pipeline project is a long way from a reality, Enbridge has put out a call for   communities  to join their project Advisory Board.
That has struck a nerve with some on the Regional District of Fraser Fort George.
Board Chair, Art Kaehn is concerned what the public perception might be over Enbridge paying the expenses for those who attend meetings. His concern about perception was echoed by others who believe having a Regional Board rep on the Advisory Board might be perceived as the Regional Board giving the pipeline some level of approval.  Director  Dan Rogers says it should be the  responsibility of the proponent of a project to pay  the bills, "Why should anyone else incur costs over something the proponent wants to do?"
Alternate Director Cameron Stolz says this is an opportunity for the Regional District to hear what’s going on “We ran to be elected so we could change things from the inside, We can have an impact on the plans for the pipeline if we are on the inside.”
Director Dan Rogers says there are already several people attending the Advisory Board meetings who are adamantly opposed to the project, so he doesn’t see how having  a Regional District rep attend the meetings could be viewed as support.
While Rogers would have liked to have had fellow Director Terry Burgess, (the Director for Electoral Area G) bring back reports to the Regional District, Burgess won’t hear of it. He already attends the meetings but only with the interests of his Electoral Area in mind. “This pipeline is totally in my area, it’s going o be crossing the Crooked River on stilts or some damn thing. I’m going to be there to speak my piece.”
 In the end, Director Rogers agreed to bring back to the Regional District issues that are discussed at the meetings, and will, if the Board so directs, deliver the Regional Board’s concerns to the Advisory Board.
Chair Art Kaehn wants it to be clear that any expenses incurred to attend the meetings will be covered by the Regional District.
The Enbridge Pipeline project proposes a  twin pipeline  that would have one line carrying  tar sands oil from Bruderheim Alberta to the coast for loading on a tanker. The other line would carry condensate from the coast back to Bruderheim.

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The carbon tax for all carbon used to make this export a reality should be fully dispersed to the regional districts in which the pipeline traverses, or it should not go ahead at all. We know that China will never take the initiative to pay their fair share of any carbon plans.

Why should the consumers and industry of Canada subsidize foreign exports of carbon fuels through punitive carbon taxes to meet carbon targets when the importing countries will not be paying anything? Are we now going to be in the business of subsidizing third world competitors with energy cheaper than what we pay here in Canada?

Make no mistake this is about supplying countries like China with dirty oil none of the first world countries will touch (most of the American companies will not buy tar sands oil anymore.. and the boycott is growing). Its about polluting our country, so we can subsidize the lowest common denominator competitors with a fuel source we as Canadians will be paying the carbon taxes for... and all our government is concerned about is the net revenue they can bring in for their kind.

To say nothing of the environment I think this deal stinks from an economic perspective, and a sovereign energy advantage perspective.
Carbon? you got some learnin to do on the biggest money making scam the world has seen. Looks like they got you sucked in.
No, I am in complete disagreement with the carbon scams. All it is is a wealth transfer that taxes the means of production in the economy and gives an economic subsidy to our competitors.

The facts are I and we have no control over the politicians in Toronto, Ottawa, London, and Paris... and those politicians have a lot of power and a lot of ideas about implementing these taxes come hell or high-water. The facts are they want the revenue to build their personal empires.

What I want is to head them off before they get out of the gate and say if we are going to see taxes on our energy that is carbon based, then the revenue should be going to the locals and not national or super-national politicians... and furthermore if there is any glimmer of this kind of tax ever coming into being, than I think it is essential that our economic competitors be forced to have to pay this same tax as we would be subjected to. This isn't something that can be discussed after the fact once contracts are signed, but rather something that needs to be negotiated for (or at least the contingencies of) well before any soil is turned on the project. Its the fiduciary duty of our elected politicians to protect us in this regard and to fail to recognize the implications will have profound future effects on the competitive nature of our economy for generations to come.

No, I'm not naive at all and I haven't been sucked in. Its you Sealice that has been sucked into the propaganda of going full speed ahead ignorant of the future ramifications of not considering these things before contracts are signed. Only yesterday the Obama administration essentially laid out the regulations they will use to implement these taxes in America... Canada won't be far behind the Americans.

If there is going to be any further taxation of our carbon based resources, than it has to stay local, and it can't put us at a competitive disadvantage to those we sell our resources to. How anyone can argue against that is beyond my comprehension unless they just don't understand the world we live in.
Constitutionally the provinces are supposed to have taxation authority over natural resources. The carbon taxes as proposed will be in violation with that principle, but in reality the constitution is just a piece of paper to those people in place like Ottawa and New York. We need to have contingencies from the grass roots in place if we are to head them off and ensure any new tax structure on our natural resources and resources that traverse our lands is going to be staying local, and not siphoned off to build bureaucratic empires in other parts of Canada and the world. Its bad enough we allow then to tax our vehicle fuel and home heating fuels... a line should be drawn in the sand as to this business of downloading taxes on the local means of production to satisfy politicians in far off lands.
Sealice I like that, I see I got the response I wanted, cool.
Freudian slip... must be your position on the farmed salmon that came through... :)