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Mayor Says 250 Story Close To What Took Place

By 250 News

Wednesday, April 07, 2010 04:10 AM

Prince George, B.C. - Prince George Mayor Dan Rogers says the story carried by Opinion250, in which the circumstances surrounding the sale of the Prince George Hotel were outlined,  is very close to what actually took place.

Rogers said "We at the city would like to have bought the PG Hotel for less, but we believe it will go a long way to down town re-development."

Commonwealth Campus Inc. was the company that negotiated a deal with the two owners of the Prince George Hotel for $2.2 million dollars, to purchase the shares of the company. Included in that purchase was a cold beer and wine store, but not the cabaret license held by PG hotel.

From what we have learned, the NDI Trust loaned Commonwealth Campus, 75% of the purchase price or $1,650,000.00 dollars at a 6.5% interest rate.

The actual cost before interest and expense for Commonwealth was $1,950,000.00 when you factor in the sale of the cold beer and wine license that fetched $250,000.00 from the Ramada Hotel across the street from the PG Hotel.

Mayor Dan Rogers sits on the NDI Trust as a board member. He would have been aware of price Commonwealth was paying for the property. The money would have been loaned to Commonwealth on the basis that in the application they would have to set out how the purchase would stimulate the economy.

We placed calls to former Board Chair Bruce Sutherland who spoke briefly on the deal but then we received a call from Janine North, CEO of the Northern Trust, who at first suggested that there was no story here.

We asked if the NDI trust loaned the money, why would they want to be involved in a land flip, if that were the case. North said that NDI felt that Commonwealth was only receiving a small developer’s fee for their part in the deal. At first she said she would have to check to see whether she could talk about the deal and that would require a talk with the city officials. She suggested that might be where Opinion250 should obtain its information. We pointed out that it was the NDI Trust that approved the loan not the City Of Prince George, which was not involved in the loan application.

Later Tuesday, CEO North phoned to inform us that the City Of Prince George had expressed an interest in the property and that is why a condition  was  added to  the loan agreement to allow for  the NDI Trust to  buy out the property.

We have asked again, did the NDI Trust feel that $550,000.00 dollars in a gross profit on the sale was excessive, the answer was, "In the mind of the Trust a small development fee".

Commonwealth Campus paid the NDI, $107,250.00 interest, which would leave them, $ 442,750.00 minus whatever other costs were involved in the transaction.

Former NDI Trust Chairman, Bruce Sutherland referred questions on the decision of the Board to the new Chairman and Directors. He said, "I am a friend of Dan McLaren of Commonwealth, but I can give you this assurance, I have no business interest in any of his holdings or companies."

Forest Minister Pat Bell says the Province is committed to building a Wood Resource Center in the, “heart” of the city, but the facility does not necessarily have to be built across from the Ramada Hotel. "It would be nice, to have a facility, that is handy for students who live and work in the area to have their accommodations close by."

Highways Minister Shirley Bond says there is still at lot of work to be done with respect to a Wood Innovations Center."We need to see the needs and wants of UNBC who are important in this project.  We are definitely committed to a Wood Resource Center, there are a number of processes taking place and we are committed to the project."


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If $550,000.00 profit on the sale of $2,500,000.00 is a small fee in the eyes of the NDI Trust I wonder what the amount of a high fee is. Nothing but a land flip at the expense of the tax payers.
'Your sunk cost for your priorities' should be the term the province sends to the city. The wood innovation center should not be located at this site simply because the city did a land deal there. Its a flood plain (why private investors will not develop there) appropriate for a parking lot and that's about it.

The wood innovation center should be located at the university campus for synergies with the rest of the fledgling university. More student housing should also be built up there as well to facilitate growth at the university. It is not appropriate to subsidize a commercial business district called the downtown at the expense of real success for the university and its programs. The downtown has to sink or swim on its own merits, and not from the back room deals of insiders with vested interests and public dollars hijacking the growth potential of PG's post secondary opportunities. IMHO

Furthermore, clearly the NDI charter says they are not allowed to loan money to a for profit venture... not even a 'small development fee'. Clearly the law was broken by NDI in the dispersal of these public funds. Clearly the deal was made with insider conflicts of interest abounding in a deal structure that is not available to anyone else without the insider connections... regardless of whether or not the intentions were good and whether or not 99% of people are happy to see the last of the PG Hotel. If the law only applies some of the time, to some people, than what is the purpose of having laws.

Clearly the province has some answering to do on the role NDI played in their for-profit financing of land swap deals that violate their charter restrictions to commercial venture lending. Clearly the city dropped the ball in not doing this deal themselves with an independent real-estate agent negotiating their deal for them without all the middle profits to private entrepreneurs.
hmmmm, not for profit. This I do not believe. The whole idea of NDI is to stimulate the economy, and this can come from private enterprise.

So what is wrong with Mclaren making some money at it. He put the deal together. he worked at it. Remember he personally did not make a profit. Commonwealth Campus Inc, made the money, thus there are a few shareholders involved. Capital gains taxes needs to get paid, taxes on wages are being paid. The shareholders will eventually get some money from this profit, but likely a substantial amount of it will be reinvested later on into the projects or another venture to stimulate the downtown.

Way to go Dan McLaren. Thanks for being a capitalist, and there are more deals downtown. Go for it. Prove to the City that free enterprise is alive and vibrant.





Are we sure that NDI received $107,250 in interest?

That would make it a fixed one time transaction interest rate rather than an annual rate, perhaps compounded monthly.

FREE enterprise? FREE to some, not so FREE to others.

LOL
Yep, I rather live in a country that supports free enterprise, than country that is in favour of total Socialism.
As I know some of the players involved it would be a good idea to put a hold on the money until a full investigation is done to ensure there was no wrong doing. But given the fact I know some of them, I am sure if a truly independent audit was done the investigator would have to where a gas mask. I fined it ironic that the same circle of people are involved in suspect deals. I geuss it is true, "flies alike are attracted to the same S>>T. Sharks swim with other sharks( they will eat each other from time to time).

Here are some questions that need to be answered.
1) when did commonwealth campus in open. and was it set up to purchase property from/ or for the city.
2)who gave money to mayor roger campain. that were directly or indirectly involved
3)is this the first building that commonwealth has purchased that the city has had involvement with.
4)what happened to the john major bingo hall that commonwealth now owns and the city has something to do with the parking. (was it ever intended to be a bingo hall or was it always going to be a health centre.
5)Is some one profiting(or not) at the city and giving leads to commonwealth on properties the city has a strong interest in.
6)it seems that commonweath campus had no intention of holding the property and had the city as a buyer before the transaction took place,so why use common wealth campus to broker the deal when a established
commercial realtor could have done it for a fraction of the price.

That is just a start of the questions that need to be answered but what about the morel question. Sure private selling of land and flipping for a profit is fine. But when commonwealth knows it is taking the money right out of the tax payers pocket and dan rogers is aware of every step in the process being mayor and even sitting on the board that gave the financing for commonwealth to purchase is just plain wrong.

Dans of a feather screw the tax payer together.

I would make a suggestion (because we all know this will be swept under the rug, politics), do not vote for rogers or give him any campain money next election and stay away from all commonwealths businesses. Stay away from any business that rents leases or buys in the medical centre. They hit us in our tax payers pocket book. Hit them in theirs. Of course if you think that this O.K. then feel free to support them.

One last thought, did not hear a word from the citizen or the free press on this as of yet. Are they scared to touch the story over fear of loosing the advertising dollars from commonwealth. If so they may just call themselves fox news.

I think i will go throw up now, sick to my stomach.
Rattyboy, you made very good points.

But, the one thing I have to disagree about is, John Major, wanting to loose 7 million dollars on a intentional bad business plan. I think JM, geniunely made a bad business deal, and lost money.

Is there a possible leak to Dan from Dan, that is the story maker.

Will the papers sit on its Laurels, because of the advertising dollars, its not the first time.

If the two Dans keep there lips tight, and province places the woodshop, then it will all blow over.
And is CKPG not putting any stories together?? or just not putting them on their website?

Not that CKPG news is actually a news station.
He Spoke says, "Remember he personally did not make a profit. Commonwealth Campus Inc, made the money, thus there are a few shareholders involved"

If I'm mistaken someone please correct me. Dan McLaren and a few of his business associates put together this company called Commonwealth Campus solely to do this realestate deal. Dan McLaren and his business partners are the shareholders and indeed are the profiteers in this deal.
To "he spoke on april 7th".

You may be right. He could have made a bad business decision, however, food for thought. Only JM's accountant and JM will truly know the finacial out come. Write offs and such. Not saying that this has happened but if he is still involved in the commonwealth building and/or commonwealth campus, down the road payoff through rental, leasing and sale of medical offices could be the carrot. Would be a hell of a revenue stream far greater to off set and loss he may have incurd. Selling the building to however and own shares in the company that purchases it is not a real financial loss only on paper is it a loss and the up side is it can be written off. NICE Deal.
Rattyboy,

Hmmmm, I did not think that JM still could be involved, by backing Dan MCLaren on the medical office. Thus that would be the reason why WIC is doing the reno, and not IDL.

Dragonmaster,,,,

you speak as if the word Profit, is a dirty word.
Hmmmm, if DM is being the front for JM on the medical office...... Wow, imagine building up your reputation for fifteen or twenty years, and then selling it off for a few pieces of silver.
NDI trust made money on this transaction which can be reinvested in other business functions. They have done a good job in getting investment into the city.
He Spoke, you made a false statement. I pointed that out and again there you are attacking as you do with others that point out your mistakes.
Whats with you not being able to say you've made a mistake instead of going on the attack?

You speak like a politician!
What is the capital gains tax on $550,000?
Was this paid or is there a special exception for this band of merry men?
Dragon Master. it is of my opinion that your commentaries are inaccurate. However, I also believe that you are allowed to your opinion as well as I am to mine.

I apologize if you feel that you were being attacked.

I on the otherhand do not mind being attacked on my comments. I take it as a compliment. Thank you.
Dan McLaren and John Major are business people who made business decisions - we didn't elect them and so they aren't answerable to us - the taxpayer. However, the Mayor and Council have a lot of answers they need to provide to us.
I would like to know how many councillors voted for the purchase of this property and on what did they base that decision?
Why the shell game? Why did the City need the NDI and the Commonwealth Group to make this happen?
Why make the purchase now when obviously all the ducks aren't in a row to make the wood centre a reality. As the Mayor said -there are no plans for the property.
I can't recall a more incompetent group of people trying to run a large corporation. I think that it is time to get rid of the lot - maybe Eugene Fetterly wasn't such a bad idea!!!!
DPJ how do you have NDI making money on the deal? The interest earned is interest that was lost on potential investments of same amount. Its a wash as far as I can see it.
Who made the profit is irrelevant. Its not the entrepreneur that is on trial here, but rather the NDI and the city officials.

NDI does not have a mandate to be involved in financing real estate deals that bring profits to anyone directly. The only ones that can profit from NDI financing are non profit organizations like cities, municipalities, regional districts, societies of one strip or another (all of which do not see distribution of profits to individuals)... the facts are the policy was changed by the BC liberals from a fund that would finance entrepreneurs to one that would not. One look at the NDI web sites shows they are in the business of 'communities, studies, training ect', but not real estate flips for private profits.

Why and how was this deal approved and why does it not follow the mandate for qualification for funding? That's the most obvious question IMO... many more should follow going back to who knew what and when at city hall? Who are the shareholders of Commonwealth, and what are their connections to the actors involved in these publicly subsidized deals?
If Commonwealth was a registered society there would be an argument that the deal was legal. That it is registered as a corporation makes the deal illegal IMO based on qualifications for funding as set out by the province for NDI funds.
This case has nothing to do with free enterprise. In fact it is just the opposite because the NDI rules disqualify qualification for funding to 'capitalistic' free enterprise... and yet in this case those rules were ignored... so in fact NDI is picking winners and losers with public dollars by allowing the qualification rules to be bent for political purposes.

This case is about the rule of law in regards to NDI use of public funds. Who holds the NDI accountable for their mandate is beyond me, but I suspect its the Governor General... being that that is a puppet role in government maybe no one at NDI is accountable for anything... certainly not for the $50 million they lost last year in their Bay street risky investments, or private real estate deals for the politically connected 'corporations'.

Should it surprise anyone that a slush fund set up from the privatization of BC Rail is now being used to fund the political allies of those same privatization deals?