Are they ever happy?

No, I don't think they ever will be, not until; they have given away the profits from all of BC to their corporate buddies. Still, they won the election and we are stuck with them, at least until the next election when we can turf out this corrupt, exploitive government and elect one that puts people first.

Lots of luck with that; the NDP dont either unless they are union bosses and other special interest groups

a)Government coffers = where all the money for healthcare, education etc comes from. No money in the coffers - no services.

b)The province does not need the power from Site C right NOW but it will definitely be needed ten years from now.

c)We all live in this province together, like it or not.

d)Predictable obstructionism shifts into high gear.

Lets connect any monies at all given to Treaty 8 Chiefs with the profits generated from Site C and see how fast they change their tune.

"...when we can turf out this corrupt, exploitive government and elect one that puts people first."

Which government is that? I think we all would like to know.

Thank God for the First Nations peoples! They are the only ones with the balls to hold this corrupt government accountable! I would believe them before Campbell in a heartbeat!

Of course they voice their displeasure, we have taught them in the past you have to put up a hissy fit then they will get paid off. Never get paid off if you say your happy.

"Still, they won the election and we are stuck with them,..."

Who is WE? You and the mouse in your pocket?

I figured it would not be long before the Chiefs fired the opening salvo of their ever predictable rhetoric. If I remember correctly, the early surveying for the WAC Bennett dam began in the late 1950's. From then to when they began flooding the reservoir in 1968, ten years. The province did not need the additional eletrical capacity in 1958, but by 1968, it was sorely needed. Suffice to say, that while the reservoir ruined a hell of a lot of fine forest, valleys and three major rivers, the resulting electrical capacity opened up the province, and aided in the boom economy we enjoyed for quite a few years. I can only hope that the positive effects of Site C can measure up to those achievements. Would our Indian brothers have us burn coal to generate electricity? Plenty of that in the Northeast of B.C.
metalman.

Suggestion to all NAYSAYERS---
-Turn your lites off
-Turn your microwave off
-Turn your T.V.off
-Turn your electric kettle off
-Turn your cell phone charger off
-Turn your car warmer off
-Turn youe electric power tools off
-Turn your electric lawn mower off
-Turn your electric shaver charger off
-Turn your electric fry pan off
Ah Shit! Just phone hydro and have your house disconnected.

Oh by the way- I can see you all right now running down to Costco to stock up with 12v batteries. MEMO to all Thieves--Start hittin the houses with no lites. They wont need their electric gadgets anyway. Good luck, YOU BUNCH OF HYPOCRITICAL DO-GOODERS. Have a nice day.

"Which government is that? I think we all would like to know."

Almost any government of any type would be better than the exploitive, liars in this one. Change the government as soon as possible, it doesn't matter to whom.

"Who is WE? You and the mouse in your pocket?"

The citizens of British Columbia, of course, who else could it mean? I am not familiar with the second part of your comment, could you please explain it?

"Turn your xxxxx of" ad nauseum.

Why? There is plenty of electrical power available to run them without site C. According to the Campbellites during the election just past, the run of river power projects will solve any shortages we might have for a long time to come - or are we now to understand that was just another self serving lie to tricvk the voters and that the old socred, Rafe Mair, was correct?

Incidentally, has there been any mention yet of where the $6 billion is to come from. The province is so broke, after all, that we can't even pay to keep hospitals clean, let alone anything else. Is it to be another PPP giveaway.

Incidentally, I am not necessarily opposed to building the site C dam, I just have absolutely no confidence that this government has the interests of BC at heart. They have shown time and again that their focus is on benefitting large corporate interests at the expense of the citizens, and I strongly suspect that this is another way for them to do that. They have not shown themaselves to care much about the people of this province, nor about the environment, so they are the last government who should be involved in developing a major project like this. I suspect that it will not remain public for long, but that their private, corporate buddies will be dipping their hands into the public trough sooner or later.

"Which government is that? I think we all would like to know."

Almost any government of any type would be better than the exploitive, liars in this one. Change the government as soon as possible, it doesn't matter to whom."

Nice dodge.

There's no question that we need more power for our everyday lives than we did in the WAC Bennett dam days and that trend is not changing any time soon. Heck, there's more people living in BC. Would you rather have a government lead and start the project before we have an energy crisis? If you're against this project, I'd like to hear what viable alternatives there are to generating the power we will eventually need.

"Nice dodge."

You know the options as well as I do.


"If you're against this project".

Read my last post again.

I do know the other options, and I'm not really seeing anything in any other party which would lead me to believe things would be vastly different than they are now, unless you believe their rhetoric.

It doesn't matter who is elected to power, there will always be a segment who hates them.

"The citizens of British Columbia, of course, who else could it mean?"

You mean *SOME citizens* don't you? When you say "the citizens of British Columbia" you infer that ALL citizens of B.C. are against the present government!

You do know that this is not true, because if it were the NDP would have won the last election! Or perhaps one of the last three.

Don't lump all of B.C. in with your *the citizens of British Columbia* statement.

"I am not familiar with the second part of your comment, could you please explain it?"

Not everybody has a sense of humour.

The ironic thing is that if everyone who thought voting was a waste of time actually voted, we might have a different government today.

"b)The province does not need the power from Site C right NOW but it will definitely be needed ten years from now."

I agree it is not NEEDED. I assert it is not NEEDED PERIOD.

Where is the supporting evidence that it will be needed in 10yrs? Where is the concrete irrefutable facts that a massive, environmentally destructive dam is the only way to accommodate the government's claim for that amount of power production?

Projections are projections. They are not perfect. For commoner (and others), if you are looking for iron-clad guarantees, I would suggest you will be looking a long time. I'm sure there were detractors when the WAC Bennett dam was built... where are they now?

That socket in the wall doesn't work by itself. The power has to come from somewhere.

Nice spin doctoring MrPG...

I asked for supporting evidence.

My sockets work just fine. I am receiving the power I need and so is everyone else.
Do you, MrPG have other information that refutes this? If so I am interested in reading that. Where is your evidence that someone is experiencing brownouts? If you have this evidence, who is experiencing it and why?

MrPG I did NOT anywhere, in any of my posts request guarantees so please try to stay on topic and not put words in my mouth. Thank you.

You can go onto BC Hydro's website and find all the information you need. Your sockets work fine today, this project is meant to address power needs in the future.

You don't wait to experience brownouts before you start to look at how to address them. It's called planning.

Why argue with those who pretent they don't require reliable electricity?

Perhaps they count on getting power from RioTinto Alcan in Kitimat when the brownouts start? Of course that would turn Kitimat into a ghost town without a running smelter...

Theres MrPG at it again. Defending anything and everything the Liberals come up with. Give it a rest MrPG your knee pads are a wearin thin.

And there's Dragon with the same old worn-out rhetoric. Yawn. Hopefully you are able to come out with some original thoughts of your own soon.

No, I don't live in a world of denial and pretend that I don't need electricity.

commoner were is your evidence that it is not needed, period.

The easiest way out is a couple of the new generation nukes.

Most of my thoughts are my own MrPG. Unlike yours that simply keep repeating the same old liberal party BS.

Everything we do for you is for your own good and for the good of all. Everything we do for you is for your own good and for the good of all.

You keep repeating your pals BS so much you're starting to believe what you're saying.
Thats a true sign of sheepdom!

Your original thoughts are getting really old MrPG.
Which Liberal politician are you?
You're not fooling anyone, you know that right?
We all see right through you MrPG.

hilarious. protesting electrical generation ON A COMPUTER!!! Protesting this dam on your computer would be like attending an anti-fur rally in a mink coat - it just makes you look dumb.

And for all you NDPeers, you need to figure out how the world works before you can have an opinion about it. Nobody is handing BCHydro money to build this dam. They take the huge risk and upfront costs of building this thing. Something none of you have the cajones to do and if it weren't for companies like this, you wouldn't have a computer to whine to the world on. BCHydro does get to keep the money they'll make on the dam - which will be substantial. That is what grown-ups call "business". Business pays for everything. Which is better than you paying for everything. If you want to make the big bucks go build your own dam. Oh thats right, you dont know anything about dams, or electricity, or engineering. In short, you have nothing to contribute to society and thats why your life is pathetic. So keep complaining, your whining is just white noise.