I just wanted to write today to forward a suggestion relating to the HST.

I think it is important this week that those who support the democratic process and feel the referendum should play out, should then also challenge the federal conservatives to their convictions. The federal conservatives should not get a free ride on the HST.

Do the federal conservatives support the democratic process... do they support the populist notion of a referendum as per the legal process in BC... and will they respect that the legal referendum process is underway and should not be circumvented for political partisan interests and arbitrary political deadlines?

We should all write to our MP's and Prime Minister Harper and demand their position on these issues.

http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/MainMPsCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current&Language=E

Will Stephen Harper refrain from implementing any HST related policy until after the referendum process has played itself out? Who's side is Stephen Harper on, and who's side are each of the conservative MP's on? Are they on the side of the democratic process... or are they on the side of corpocracy because they can?

We all know that ultimately the HST is a surrender of BC taxation sovereignty to the fed and as such the BC liberals have abdicated their responsibilities. It is said by some that Gordon Campbell will simply ignore the HST referendum process and to be damned with the democratic process. That very well may be Gordon Campbell's position, but at the end of the day the decision is now one made in Ottawa, and is out of the hands of our provincial government. The new reality is that the BC liberals have abdicated BC sovereignty and Ottawa will either ignore the BC democratic process, or it will respect the BC democratic process in waiting until the results of the referendum are known before making any implementation that would be onerous if implemented and then later repealed after a successful referendum against the HST.

This could become a very serious constitutional crisis if Harper insists on intransigence to the popular will of the people of BC IMO. We are not there yet, but clearly we are on a road to that kind of show down and it is entirely at the feet of Stephen Harper if that happens. Maybe that is his plan from the get go, who knows what goes one behind the curtains, but only the PM himself and Gordon Campbell and their inside circle of advisers?

Time will tell, but in the meantime I think it is critical that everyone take some time to write the Prime Minister this week and get some answers before this becomes a very real problem not just for BC, but for the frame work of our country as well when it comes to respecting the democratic will of its citizens....

This very well could be their neo-con plot to force a constitutional split in the country. It certainly has the stage set for that.

Why is the place open to sign on such restricted hours? Should be until 8p.m. or something. No one has knocked on our door yet for signing, where are they. We would like to sign, but times open makes it almost impossible. They want us to sign so make it easier please.

moretaxesplease...They are all volunteers. None of them are being paid to knock on doors. If you really feel strongly about signing, try & get down there. It's important.

One of the many things Premier Campbell and Colin Hansen continue to crow about the HST, is that it will make BC more competitive with regards to manufacturing and the like. With this deal the savings these companies would have would be passed down to the customer... us.

I have a question... of the items we purchase on a regular basis, how many of them are actually made in BC? If it's predominately off-shore or out-of-province, then we are not going see any of these price reductions at all.

As I understand there are quite strict guidelines governing the canvassers, and part of the hold-up has to do with their being registered with ElectionsBC and issued an official card that identifies them.

Apparently not enough of these cards have been printed and sent out yet. Remember, too, that this process is entirely manned by 'volunteeers' ~ it's not funded by any special interest groups, or organised like a political party would be.

Fortunately, there has been a much larger than expected number of 'volunteers' in all the ridings, but unfortunately this has left ElectionsBC somewhat overwhelmed by the response. (It might also be 'intended' that they be overwhelmed ~ remember the type of government that oversees this process ~the one which has made this whole effort so necessary to succeed.)

In spite of this, many ridings are already nearing the necessary numbers, and it's only April, and we've just begun. What is important now is for everyone who has not yet signed to not be complacent. Make the effort, even if it is still inconvenient. The more signatures we can get the greater our chances of stopping this thing are.

Pylot Project, there won't be any savings to BC consumers through the HST. Any more than there were when the GST came in, and replaced the old Manufacturer's Sales Tax that was levied on a number of products, including lumber, appliances, and automobiles, and hidden in the price.

That tax was at 9% on building materials, and they sure didn't decline any 9% when it was removed. Neither did the price of cars.

The HST is a tax grab, and if there's any increase in 'competitiveness' because of it, it will be to the advantage of foreigners getting our products cheaper in their markets than we get the same products in ours.

I talked to a lady from Halifax the other day and asked her if they noticed any price drops when the HST was introduced in the Maritimes. She laughed at me. And silly me, I honestly believed that big business would pass their savings onto us, LOL :)

How many people who are 'taxed to the max' by the HST going to be able to come up with $300 for a pair of Elton John tickets this morning?

I'll bet Elton sells out in no time!!!

How about this Site C dam.....it must be OK because they promise not to be selling any of the power from it to the USA? But what does that really mean when they can just sell more from the WAC? With a surplus of power would our hydro bill go down??

For a pair? Half of the number of seats that are available within 10 minutes or less.

So, figure about 2,500 people at 2 seats per person = 5,000 seats.

socredible,

Your mistaken about the change over from the old federal sales tax to GST, the price of auto and other products went down a fair bit when it was implimented. At that time I was in a manufacturing business, the old FST was 13% of the manufacturer cost and was hidden.

There was a definite decline in the price of many products, I remember vividly as I purchased a new truck within days of the tax change, holding off for over 6 months on a purchase I needed.

The petition on the HST has little to nothing to do with the old FST, hell I would bet 90% of the population at that time had no idea there was FST till GST was brought up.

Trust the liberal apologist on this site -MrPG- to try and deflect the issue. BigBrother has already said the new tax would only cost me over $1000 a year; and I would be better off with that! But I guess somebody has to pay for all those gigantic cost over runs and the Owelimpics that Gordo will dump on us. Is it time for another carbon tax increase yet??

My cousin, in Courtenay, down on Vancouver Island, attended an anti-HST rally at the Legion there last Friday evening at which Vander Zalm and Chris Delaney both spoke.

There was a standing room only crowd, with people there from right across the political spectrum.

Vander Zalm mentioned in his speech that he had written an e-mail to the Governor-General asking that she reserve Royal Assent to the Federal government's Act enabling the HST until a legal opinion on its constitutionality could be sought.

That it may well be ultra-vires of Gordon Campbell's government to request the transfer of an area of Provincial taxation to the Federal government, not only without a debate and vote on it in the BC Legislature, but also a Referendum, as is required here for any "Constitutional" changes under BC law.

The Governor-General's office referred him back to Gordon Campbell, by a return e-mail that came through only minutes after his request had been received.

This is clearly an abrogation of the role of the Crown on the part of, or in the name of, the Governor-General. Have we descended so far into the morass of 'elected dictatorships' that the vice-regal Head of State can not even do her proper job of protecting our Constitutional rights ? What comes next? Taxes imposed without even the need to take them through any 'paliamentary' body for discussion at all?

Please sign the Petition, it IS vitally important for the restoration of our long established rights and freedoms.

Did anyone get to see the black bear having a nap in a tree on Tyner blvd last weekend? Pretty cool to see something actually living at Tyner Ridge..

From Pat Bells Top Ten:

1. You may have heard “The HST adds $2,100 to your yearly costs”a. You would need to spend an additional $30,000 on currently PST-exempt items to reach $2,100b. For a Family of 4 with a $60,000 annual income the true impact is $8.91 per month.c. A Senior Couple with a $30,000 income will be impacted by an additional $1 per year.d. A Family of 4 with a $90,000 income will be impacted by an additional $14.83 per month.e. A Family of 4 with a $30,000 income will actually benefit by $44.58 per month (because of the BC HST Credit)

2. You may have heard “Everything will cost more”The vast majority of retail items will see no tax change with HSTItems on which you pay PST and GST today stay exactly the same. (7%PST + 5%GST = 12% HST)
a. New cars, trucks, boats, recreational vehicles
b. Furniture
c. Electronics
d. Kitchenware
e. Toiletries
f. Hardware and tools
g. Adults clothing
h. Pet Food

3. You may have heard “Housing will cost more”
a. No HST on used homes which make up 80% of total sales in BC
b. HST rebate will apply on new homes up to $525,000 – maximum $26,250
c. Homes above $525,000 are eligible for a rebate of $26,250
d. In BC - 73% of home sales are under $500,000
e. In Northern BC 99% of home sell for less than $500,000

4. You may have heard “You’ll pay more for car insurance, home insurance…”The HST won’t change the price of any of those items. They are exempt.
5. You may have heard “Staying warm and keeping the lights on will cost more”Home heating fuels and residential electricity are eligible for a point-of-sale rebate, including:
a. Oil
b. Natural gas
c. Propane
d. Wood and wood pellets
HST won’t increase the cost of heating or powering your home

6. You may have heard “It will cost more to feed my family”These are ALL zero rated –
a. basic groceries such as milk, bread, and vegetables.
b. agricultural products such as grain, raw wool, and dried tobacco leaves.
c. most farm livestock.
d. most fishery products such as fish for human consumption.
e. prescription drugs and drug-dispensing fees (in case you buy these at the grocery pharmacy).
The general rule of thumb is – if there is currently GST on any item at the grocery store than HST will apply.

7. You may have heard “The disabled will be impacted by additional cost for medical devices”These Medical devices are zero-rated:
(a) hearing aids
(b) heart-monitoring devices
(c) hospital beds
(d) breathing apparatus
(e) asthmatic devices
(f) prescription eyeglasses/contact lenses
(g) artificial eyes
(h) artificial teeth such as dentures, crowns and bridges, orthodontic appliances
(i) aids to locomotion such as a chair, commode chair, walker, wheelchair lift or other aid to locomotion for use by an individual with a disability
(j) patient lifters
(k) wheelchair ramp; portable wheelchair ramp
(l) modifying motor vehicles to adapt the vehicle for the transportation of an individual using a wheelchair
(m) prescription orthotic and orthopedic devices
(n) prosthesis/devices
(o) canes or crutches
(p) articles for blind individuals
(q) guide dogs for blind individuals and hearing ear dogs
(r) supplies and services related to medical and assistive devices.

8. You may have heard “Children’s clothes and items will increase”Children’s clothing and items below will not be subject to the provincial portion (7%) of the HST or HST exempt
(a) Children's clothing designed for babies, girls, and boys up to and including girls' Canada Standard Size 16 and boys' Canada Standard Size 20, or clothing designated for girls and boys in sizes small, medium or large if the clothing does not have a designated Canada Standard Size would be eligible for point-of-sale rebate. This would not include costumes or clothing like sports protective equipment.
(b) Children’s footwear designed for babies, girls, and boys up to and including girls' size 6 and boys' size 6, including footwear without a numerical size that is designated for girls or boys in sizes small, medium or large would be eligible for point-of-sale rebate. This would not include skates, rollerblades, ski-boots, footwear that has cleats, or similar footwear.
(c) Diapers, including cloth and disposable diapers designed for babies and children, and diaper inserts and liners, rubber pants, and training pants would be eligible for point-of-sale rebate. Incontinence products would be zero-rated under HST, in accordance with current GST rules.
(d) Children's car seats and car booster seats that are restraint systems or booster cushions that conform with Transport Canada's safety requirements for Standards 213, 213.1, 213.2 and 213.5, as described under the federal Motor Vehicle Safety Act would be eligible for point-of-sale rebate.

9. You may have heard "Education costs are going to increase including my child’s music lessons”Educational services such as courses supplied by a vocational school leading to a certificate or a diploma which allows the practice of a trade or a vocation, or tutoring services made to an individual in a course that follows a curriculum designated by a school authority; music lessons are not taxable.

10. You may have heard “HST will hurt small business”HST will be good for business. It will replace hidden sale tax and small businesses will get additional tax cuts. Currently, PST is applied at every step in the creation of a product. Those multiple PST charges are embedded in the price you pay at the store – even though you can't see it. And of course, you pay PST on the final purchase price. Under the HST system, most of those embedded costs are removed and savings can be passed on to the consumer.

Denaljo: "Trust the liberal apologist on this site -MrPG- to try and deflect the issue. "

That's right, I don't follow the herd mentality, like many on this site. That bothers a lot of people apparently.

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gus: "For a pair? Half of the number of seats that are available within 10 minutes or less.

So, figure about 2,500 people at 2 seats per person = 5,000 seats."

Those will be the successful ones. Conservatively, I figure there will be at least 10x as many people trying.

There are many NDP apologists commenting on this site, so perhaps it's only fair to have a couple or so of Liberal apologists.

How fast do you think Elton John will sell out? I'm guessing 5-7 minutes

Backit misses the point about the opposition to the HST entirely. It is not about the benefits or costs of a new tax. It is about being lied to by Gordoin Campbell.

During the election he said there would be no HST. He lied. He was elected. He announced the HST. We now have a petition in disgust at him.

That is the point, nothing else.

Why so much petulance over MrPG expressing his opinions on Opinion250? Isn't that what it is for? I hardly ever agree with him and frequently say so. I notice he does much the same to me. So what? That kind of exchange is the cornerstone of democracy.

Don't complain - take part!

Hey everyone aside from HST signing, i am trying to clean up my yard, i have a few cedar trees in front that are in dire need of trimming, is now to early? Or can I trim without harming them?

It is a beautiful day, i see the ice is off the weather has been great so turn over should not have happened yet, I think i'll go have a crack at some ice off trout and one of the many fishing holes around PG.

Just to get a break from all the "debating"
over what the crooks that form our government are going to do. I agree with Denaljo, if its not the HST, oits the carbon tax, or the Olympics or site C, the fact is we should be petitioning all these not just the HST, but there are so many taxes being thrown at us, we just don't have the manpower or the time, one way or the other Gordie the drunk Campbell is gonna get us one way or the other.

Have a great weekend everyone..;)

How things change. PrinceGeorge notes the number of "NDP apologists" on Opinion250. Many of the people he call that have nothing to do with the NDP, I'm sure, and are just people fed up with Campbell and not necessarily members of the NDP.

However, I have been commenting here almost from the beginning, when I appeared to be the sole leftie. I am happy that others on the left have joined in, it testifies to the success of the forum. Just remember, if a bird flies with only the right wing flapping, it will go in ever diminishing circles until it disappears - somewhere!

Highlander. I have a couple cedars and was told to wait until at least June. The cooler temps right now can kill the freshly trimmed areas and then you get a dead spot that is no fun! Hope that helps.

ammonra: "Why so much petulance over MrPG expressing his opinions on Opinion250? Isn't that what it is for? I hardly ever agree with him and frequently say so. I notice he does much the same to me. So what? That kind of exchange is the cornerstone of democracy. "

Excellent post ammonra! Well said! People need to get a little bit thicker skins and accept that there are people that might have different views from their own without attacking the messenger.

Got my tickets to see Sir Elton, I love free enterprise.

Thanks for the posting Backit. I support HST, cleans up the antiquated method of collecting taxes in the province. The only thing, I don't agree on is the 12%. Make it 10% and it should work out.

why do I support it. It will make it a lot easier to run a business. No lingering issues with a inept provincial employee and policies. At the end of the day, the final end consumer has to pay for it. These will be the exact same people that will be benefiting from these taxes, health care, schools, roads, social programs.

The government, does not profit from the taxes, they just spend it again and it keeps people employed, and our social infrasture gets stronger. Somebody has to pay for it. So why not the users of it. We all want to have a hospital to go to when were sick. If it was not government funded, imagine what you pay if you get cancer or a heart attack. so stop your belly aching.

Well I just spent an hour on the computer with Ticketmaster trying to get a couple of tickets to Elton John. Sure seems strange that since 10:00 there are no tickets matching my request. We've picked up tickets in the past within twenty minutes through Tcketmaster for concerts such as Paul McCartney, Eagles, Elton John in Vancouver, Billy Joel, Tom Petty, Eric Clapton, Rolling Stones and many more, sure is weird a person can't get anything here.

He spoke that inept provincial employee is trying to do a thankless job hamstrung by an inept boss-Campbell. Wonder if he has been back to Maui.

I got my Elton tickets online as well. After my order was complete, I tried a couple minutes later just for fun and was shut out. You had to be on the ball.

Got my tickets to Elton, it took me 18 min to get through - not sure how good they will be as I wasn't going for the more expensive ones but I'm in there....

They are already selling on ebay for up to and beyond $1000.00. Crazy. It looks like this is where all of those close up floor seats went. That just annoys me all to heck. Thankfully I managed to get tickets. Way at the back, but better than nothing at all. How does anyone stand a chance at getting the good seats when they are snapped up by the hundreds like that marked up so high?

Liberal gov't propaganda tells us implementation of the HST will save businesses money and this will be passed on to workers in the form of a wage increase. I wonder if all the Canfor sawmill workers who have taken a wage cut would agree with this theory.
We all know Gordon Campbell's past record on speaking the truth.

Sign the HST petition.

Resident: "Liberal gov't propaganda tells us implementation of the HST will save businesses money and this will be passed on to workers in the form of a wage increase."

I would like to see where you got this quote. There is no way Gordon Campbell or anyone else could promise that any private business would give wage increases to its workers at any time, HST or not.

I support the democratic process, one has the right to sign the petition.

Thus the names should become public knowledge and be scrutinized to see if these same people voted in the last election.

That being said, I wonder how much mis-information and propaganda is being thrown around by the HST canvassers to get people to sign their petitions.

Seamutt, your probably correct on your comment. It was not fair to call them names. However, in my case, I have presented all my information to them, said I owe you money. they told me I was OK, later they admit that I did owe them money and turned around and charged me penalties.
That is my experience with the PST people.

The tax is very complicated,I doubt that all the front line workers are not aware of all the if,buts and nots.

The tax is so convulated, that it needs to be abolished, thus the HST is a good vehicle to hitch it on too.

Just a short note on MrPG and his notion of not going along with the herd.
During the election Gordo promising no new taxes - 3 days later we get HST not to mention carbon tax
BCRail - more lies
Recognition Act - nuff said
convention centre and rav line cost overruns
Oh Yeah! And not to forget convienentally destroying evidence in the BCRail fiasco. Yup - you stay with the herd of low life liberals.
Have a good weekend all - time to go camping before they tax that or raise fees to go into our own backyards! What too late for that you say! Pity! Only in Liberal BC

Backit:-Currently, PST is applied at every step in the creation of a product. Those multiple PST charges are embedded in the price you pay at the store – even though you can't see it. And of course, you pay PST on the final purchase price. Under the HST system, most of those embedded costs are removed and savings can be passed on to the consumer."
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That's not true, Back it. Raw materials or semi-manufactures are NOT subject to PST. The PST is only charged and collected on sale of the finished product. Unlike the HST, which has to be paid 'up front' on both, even if it is later recovered as an Input Tax Credit.

It is true that PST applies to the purchases of 'capital' equipment, and as a part of the Capital Costs of that equipment it will be a component of the Price of any consumables that equipment is used to manufacture.

But those costs are recovered from the public over the expected life-span of that equipment, in most cases many years. Not all at once.

And most of the new capital equipment that will be installed 'tax free' under the HST will be used to manufacture export products. New larger mills, that employ even LESS people overall than the mills that exist now do, not MORE.

So what Campbell is doing is giving foreigners, who now pay the PST through its embedding as a Capital Cost in the Price of our exports, a tax break. At OUR additional expense.

Additionally, the PST paid by Companies, because it is NOT recoverable as an Input Tax Credit, reduces the amount of FEDERAL and Provincial Income Tax they will pay. Under the HST, this won't be the case. It has been calculated that over $ 2 billion dollars ANNUALLY in ADDITIONAL Income Tax will flow to OTTAWA as a result of the HST. No wonder the Feds were so anxious to offer a ONE-TIME $ 1.6 billion dollar bribe to that inept boob we call a Premier.

"Have a good weekend all - time to go camping before they tax that or raise fees to go into our own backyards! What too late for that you say! Pity! Only in Liberal BC"

Oh relax. You do realize that these sites cost money to run, right? Do you think over time those costs are going up or down?

If you expect things like Provincial camping fees to remain the same forever, I have some bad news for you. Be realistic.

Also, groceries and gas will cost more as time goes on as well. You don't have to be an economist to know that.

My wife got tickets to the Elton John show as well. The key was getting online early before they sold out, but even then it was probably a crapshoot and it may have come down to how good your Internet connection was. There were still single tickets available when I looked at about 10:20, but shortly thereafter it looked to be sold out.

I'm actually very happy that the response was this good. It shows that we actually can support performances of this calibre in PG and with that, hopefully we can get some more big name acts in the future. There are loads of people who would've said that we could never host a concert of this stature, especially at the $160 per ticket being saught. 15 minutes later and the proof was in.

Oh and don't even think that only PG residents will be going to this show. I have no doubt that it will draw people from around our immediate area and beyond to come visit the city. That's what having facilities like CN Centre enables us to do IF we have people running it that can take advantage of it. Kudos to whomever was responsible for getting this concert lined up.

Oh and given that tickets are already showing up on Craigslist and stuff like that (rather predictable given the nature of the show), people should really be on the lookout for potential scams and fake tickets . . .

Just one more remark for this Friday. I make a solid distinction between the MLAs (which were elected by the people at election time) and the party leader (who was NOT elected as a leader by the people at election time).

This goes for federal and provincial parties.

One may vote for an MLA and know who the present leader is. Fine. But that is not the same thing as having a separate voting opportunity for the leader.

Leaders are changed whenever. The BCNDP had four leaders in ten years and there were only two elections.

Leaders come and go. Gordon's time to leave will come very soon.

Relax and have a Good Weekend.

Before the advent of well-organised political Parties in the BC Legislature, which dates from around 1900, or so, the elected MLAs selected by majority vote a 'leader' from amongst their number after the general election was over, and then a separate election for "Premier" was held. One in which any other elected MLA could contest the choice of the majority. So citizens did get a vote as to who would lead the government. After more organised Parties developed, around the time Sir Richard McBride became Premier, this was changed to the set-up we have now.

The MLAs now seem more concerned about representing the 'Premier' and 'governement' to us, (or Opposition leader, if they're on the other side), than in representing US in the Legislature. This makes an absolute sham of democracy. When all indications show that over 85% of the citizens oppose the HST, yet the Liberal MLAs, if given the chance, won't vote against it, it raises the question of just what do they think their function is? WE pay their salary. Not the BC Liberal Party. They work for US, not their "Party". Their primary job is to LISTEN to what WE want. And work to get it for us. Not TELL us what the Premier says we're going to have.

All this talk of HST petitions and Liberal lying must be striking a nerve. Did anyone else notice the pro HST campaign is now up and running? The likes of Brucey Strachan(Citizen), Vic Bowman(Free Press), Tim McEwen of IPG (who us taxpayers pay his wages), Citizen Editorial and Vaughn Palmer(Vancouver Sun). I almost forgot Keith Valdry of TV fame. They now tell us that they are going to spend taxpayers money on a mailout telling us how great the HST will be. At least the anti HST people pay their own way and think for themselves.

Great post Socred. I agree. A fascinating read for background is the Legislative Debate on BC Joining Confederation... actual transcript of the debate in the BC Legislature at the time with the arguments for and against joining confederation. BC Governor General at the time Fredrick Seymour was opposed to joining confederation and died shortly after in a mysterious poisoning. John A MacDonald good friend and associate Musgrave then entered the picture and promised the moon, bribed a little, made some threats, and eventually history was made. The fascinating thing about the legislative debate for BC to join confederation is that we had a more lively democratic debate back then, than we have now... and I just find that ironic.

As for McBride... he was an institution in this province at the time. I tend to think he was the greatest premier in BC history next only to WAC Bennet. It was McBride that secured BC's right to its taxation powers and control of our natural resources through his friendship with Winston Churchill. Churchill for all the wrong reasons, but in the end McBride outsmarted them all and was a public hero for his efforts. Then we slipped into the party politics trap and only briefly got lifted out of it by WAC Bennet, only to slip back into the trap once his 'League' was destroyed by the established party powers.

Oldun, what they are attempting to do is in violation of the Election BC rules. Lets hope they are held to the same standard as the old Reform party was held to....

For a business investing in a capital cost like a building or equipment... one thing that is overlooked so far in the debate is that the cost of PST can be included in a loan, because it is not recoverable, but HST and GST are not eligible for funding through a loan as they have the Input Tax Credit.

ie 10% down plus the 12% HST required up front, rather than the 10% down plus 5% GST up front.

Therefore a new business will have to have their regular down payment, plus the additional 7% that would have been eligible for the loan, and will not be eligible as HST, thereby increasing the cost of a new business or an expanding business to purchase capital equipment with a further 7% cost up front out of operating cash.

On a million dollar enterprise that's an addition $70,000 required in operating cash up front that would not now be required under the PST.

HST inhibits new start up business and is anti free enterprise in that regard.

Also PST is not a burden to business if you follow the rules. The tax calculations are all done electronically by the accounting software and submitting the tax is simply plugging in a half dozen numbers from the accounting software calculations into a simple half page form. It takes all of five minutes to submit PST obligations. PST even pays you for your token amount of time involved in submitting the tax.

PST is more about taking the easy way in increasing taxes to a whole host of things that were not previously taxed and doing it through the back door thinking they can avoid accountability for the tax increase, as well as the transfer of tax input credits to business. PST has nothing to do with creating accounting efficiencies for business... nothing at all... its about the transfer of taxation responsibility and implemented through anti democratic maneuvering.

Eagleone,

Bunk.

Ever here of bridge financing? Very common.

Every time I have made a major purchase in the past, the GST has been included in the loan with a lump payment to be paid out with your 3rd installment. There will be no difference with the HST.

2nd, you simply plan your purchase to happen at the end of your Input credit cycle, then your purchase HST is washed by your HST you have taken in over the past 3 months. Virtually all successful business will have to pay HST because they have taken in more then they have spent, therefor if your making a large purchase you have the HST you have received from your customers to work with.

Once again misseducation, naiveness and simple untruths fuel your campaign.

As I have said before, you worry about your part, dont wast your time trying to convince small business its a bad tax becase its a very favorable tax. Your half truths and missinformation are killing your credibilty.

Since when are editorials against Election BC rules? IF thats the case your simple messages here are in violation as well.

Eagleone,

Its very obvious you have little to no business savy.

You hearing stories from somebody then trying to translate them on this site?

Once again, half truths, untruths and simple lies. Stick to your original campaign, quite making yourself look bad by trying to convince the small business owner.