"RCMP say they will only issue tickets for speeds above 65 kilometers an hour."

That doesn't really do much to alleviate the safety concerns of the residents now does it?

RCMP monitoring? What a load of crap that is! I have yet to see a patrol car this week on Highland Dr.I do however see about a hundred speeding (and loaded )dump trucks thundering up and down the street each day.

RCMP monitoring? What a load of crap that is! I have yet to see a patrol car this week on Highland Dr.I do however see about a hundred speeding (and loaded )dump trucks thundering up and down the street each day.

Highland Drive is a residential street and it has therefore a speed limit of 50km/h.

It also has this speed limit explicitly posted with the familiar signs, black numbers and letters on a white background!

It makes no difference to those determined to keep speeding! Ask them why they speed and risk running down a child or causing a pile up, of which there have been quite a few!

The RCMP will issue only warnings or (maybe) a ticket for anyone caught going faster than 65km/h?

Does this mean that one can go 30% faster than the legal limit?

Can one go 130km/h on a highway that has a speed limit of 100km/h? That's 30% faster, and o.k. apparently!

Try it and see how fast you will get written up with a hefty fine!

What a joke! Who makes these ridiculous decisions to allow a 30% disregard of the limit - especially on a residential street?

Come on, it's 50km/h. PERIOD. Children are getting off buses on Highland Drive, crossing the street to get to the one and only sidewalk. There are dozens of driveways exiting onto Highland Drive!

BTW, the RCMP has been somewhat more dedicated to catching speeders, but as soon as the RCMP shows up all the speeding trucks slow down to the limit - they KNOW what it is = 50km/h.

The limit is 50km/h - no ifs, no buts. Enforce it or admit that it can not be done.

If it can not be done, look at alternatives such as speed bumps and lowering the speed limit to 40km/h or less.

AND NO TRUCKS!

I live in the area, know it well and I know one thing for sure, the biggest abusers of the speed limit are the local residents themselves.

I have come down Highland Drive many many times and have a car come up on my butt real fast, get right on my bumper then turn off into a driveway or down a side street.

As for dump trucks, I believe that is one of the reasons they have delayed the construction is because of the paving on the Hart Highway. There are signs all over the place asking traffic to use different routes, and the dump trucks, whether carrying grindings or pavement are traveling to the bottom of Foothills.

The RCMP only issuing tickets above 65 kmph? That to me is wrong, frankly anything over about 57 kmph should be pulled over. The amount of time you see the RCMP on Highland Drive? Its one street only a few KM's long in a town with how many streets? Then you factor in that its 10 km's outside the downtown core? Really, do the locals expect special treatment? I dont think this road is patroled by the RCMP more or less than any other similar road.

One other thing about Highland Drive that the locals fair to admit, the road was built as a main thru way for traffic. It may be a residential street, but it was built with wider sholders and extra room to allow all traffic to move freely.

If your coming up Foothills and wish to access the Hart Shopping center or live near the Hart Highway it is by far the fastest and most direct route to do so. Any other route takes you either directly past a major school or along winding roads.

Tom,If you actually read the article,you would have seen this statement.
“The RCMP are looking at the street and paving now would hinder efforts to see if increased enforcement is having an effect.”

65 km/hr? Good to know the secret.

I always tried to keep myself to 60 km/h on Highland. It does seem slow on a road that's nice and wide and handles so much traffic. Nice to know I have a free pass to step it up to 65!

Stomping Tom, you have posted your theory many times before about drivers traversing Highland Drive being mostly people living there!

It is a theory. That's all! You have absolutely zero proof who those people are and WHERE they live!

Just because somebody drives there or turns off into a side street does not automatically mean that the person LIVES there.

Did you pull them over and ask them where they live? Did you have ICBC do a scan on their plate numbers to verify their home address?

Not very likely.

Give it a rest. Let the many people who actually live there and signed a petition and took it to city hall fight their fair fight!

What are your special interests that prompt you to interfere when in fact the problems are REAL!

Anything over 57km/h should be pulled over? Great! That is what we want but we can't find anybody who agrees and actually enforces it!

We are NOT asking for any special treatment! We are asking the city to protect the residents who moved here when the speed limit is 50km/h since before 1973 by doing the right thing.

The police has a duty to make sure that there is no speeding and breaking the law on a daily basis!

If that is impossible then other measures must be taken.

We can't have people driving 30% over the limit and not facing any consequences.

People doing 65 or more in a 50 zone probably have not been involved in a serious car accident before, or they would probably travel a little slower.
Or, they are just stupid and uncaring about the welfare of their fellow man.
metalman.

"Or, they are just stupid and uncaring about the welfare of their fellow man."

Yes, you hit the nail right on the head!

They are either stupid or uncaring, or both.

Metalman said:
"People doing 65 or more in a 50 zone probably have not been involved in a serious car accident before, or they would probably travel a little slower.
Or, they are just stupid and uncaring about the welfare of their fellow man.
metalman."

What a ridiculous comment. I've live in the Hart for over 25 years. Not once have I seen an accident on Highland Drive, save for the at Foothills intersection.

For 25 years people have been speeding on that road and now we have a qualified professional state that the road is engineered to handle at least 65 km/h. Yet, arbitrarily, 50 km/h is the absolute fastest someone should drive or else they're stupid and uncaring?

Give me a break.

The real problem here is over the actual law. If the maximum is 50, why is the RCMP publicly stating 65 is ok? Apparently the limit should be 65 km/h Maximum, driving to conditions. Yes, conditions include weather, pedestrians, parked cars, dogs, etc., etc. Use some common sense. I have a hard time believing there is a person out there that hasn't exceeded the 50 maximum on this road.

Dozens of streets off of Highland? were there more added latley? I remember snowmobiling all over that area when we lived on Montgomery in the early 70's, there were no roads or houses.

We were swore at and fingered when a truck and camper flew down our street and we live by a school with an obvious 30km speed limit. Hell 65km is slow in comparison, that just what the 4 wheelers do when their not popping wheelies. This is the top of the Hart also. If the R.C.M.P. parked down my street in one weekend they would make a killing on the uninsured dirt bikes, 4 wheelers and yes an 8 wheeler also. Not to mention the plain old speeders.

"What a ridiculous comment. I've live in the Hart for over 25 years. Not once have I seen an accident on Highland Drive, save for the at Foothills intersection."

I have lived there for 37 years. Witnessed several rear-enders, one t-bone, cars ending up on people's lawns...dogs run over and killed, etc.

No fatalities, yet.

...and there's "dozens" of streets that intersect Highland, too, right?

Regardless, every incident you've listed resulted from either lack of attention on the part of the driver, or driving too fast for conditions. A magical 50 km/h maximum won't change this.

PrinceGeorge,

Why am I interested?

I own two house's within a 1/4 mile of Highland Drive. I am usually on that road a few times a day.

Nothing bothers me more than special interest groups who feel that everything should change for their needs.

Highland Drive has been a main thruway for many many years, now your group wants the speed limit lowered to a crazy level, want truck traffic banned and want special enforcement from the police, yet the actual number of incidents on the road are very low.

That's what pisses me off, you dont think your own crap stinks.

As for my theory that the locals are the biggest problem, I drive the road daily, I see them come up on my ass at a high rate of speed, tail gate me then turn off into their driveways. I see this almost every time I dive the road. Dont tell me their isn't a problem with the locals. Oh yeah, its always the people visting, the delivery guy, yeah, its always somebody else.

Here we go again Mr Tom, lots of talk no facts.
Highland drive was never designed as a through road that changed when it was expanded to meet, Austin West. Check your facts it also was not a truck route and trucks were not permitted.
Go to city hall and get some facts before you mouth off and to the moderator, if this man cannot control his language take him off.
If you think Tom that 65 kilometres is okay please tell everyone were those two houses are you own so everyone in the area can speed by your house, let’s see if you call. But then from watching your posts you talk a lot but action never comes.

We at 0-250 give you a lot of latitude in the comments you make. We have said and I repeat we will not tolerate bad language. Some of you have been previously warned about that language and name calling .
If it continues we will remove the privileges of those involved and if those people attempt to re-register we will identify the people making the comments and let the whole area decide on your conduct

billm

"to the moderator, if this man cannot control his language take him off."

And just what language cant I control? Piss and crap? Your have problems with that? Really? Grow some balls. If that is the worst you see you really do lead a fairy tail life.

As for facts, lets see yours. You claim I feel 65 kmh is fine, funny, look up a bit where I post that I think anybody going over 57 should get a ticket. Where did I say it was designed as a truck route? Once again your fact checking is pretty bad. As for back in the day when "trucks were not permitted" your going to have to prove that one. I remember for a fact having more than one neighbor drive his logging truck home every nigh and parking it in the driveway next to ours. That was 1975.

You might want to spend a bit of time looking in your mirror in the morning.

Stomping Tom, you are contradicting yourself. In one sentence you say that if someone in a 50km/h zone goes more than 57km/h he/she should get a ticket. Then you are not in favour of the speed limit of 50km/h on Highland Drive being enforced when they are speeding???

The city just recently replaced two 50km/h speed limit signs on Highland Drive. This means that the city agrees that the speed limit IS IN FACT 50km/h.

The residents of the area are asking for this:

They want the city/RCMP to enforce the speed limit which is 50km/h - they went to city council to make their point about safety concerns.

You own two houses a quarter mile from Highland Drive.

That does NOT qualify you to participate in the effort of the residents who live ON Highland Drive and South Kelly Road.

You are an OUTSIDER! Leave us alone, it is none of your business as you are NOT AFFECTED!

I suspect you drive many times every day THROUGH along the street in question, conducting your business, which for all I know may be hauling gravel along this route, with time being a very important consideration.

I am only guessing as to why you are taking such in interest in this matter when it really does not concern you a bit.

Again, for the last time: We are not a special interest group and we are NOT asking for any special favours!

PrinceGeorge,

why dont you spend some time reading and quoting. Please post where I say I want the speed limit changed. I stated early on I felt that the police issuing a ticket at 65 was not right and anybody over 57 should get a ticket.

Why 57? Because we all know the RCMP can not have zero tolerance with speed zones because virtually every ticket would be thrown out because of variances. The RCMP usually allow approx 10% overage. I think that is fair. In reality on this point your dont nothing more than whine because I ate your lunch in the other posts and your still embaressed about it.

Next point, reading comprehension, not a strong point for you is it. My exact quote "I own two house's within a 1/4 mile of Highland Drive" You see, the operative word is "within". One house is about 1/4 mile off directly in the heart of Hart Highlands, the other I can see Highland drive from the front window. But I guess thats a mute point for you, cause if you dont live "on" Highland Drive your not allowed an opinion. Tsk tsk tsk.

Now you ask about contradiction. How about these two quotes from you:

You own two houses a quarter mile from Highland Drive.

That does NOT qualify you to participate in the effort of the residents who live ON Highland Drive and South Kelly Road.

"You are an OUTSIDER! Leave us alone, it is none of your business as you are NOT AFFECTED!

You are an OUTSIDER! Leave us alone, it is none of your business as you are NOT AFFECTED"

Followed by:

"Again, for the last time: We are not a special interest group and we are NOT asking for any special favours!"

Really now, do you have any idea of what your saying?

1st Im an outsider because I dont have a home exactly on Highland Drive, were not worthy of an opinion, yet in the next paragraph you claim your not a special interest group and your not asking for any special favors.

Lets see, Special favors? If I remember correctly from the start of your petition you want special consideration of the speed limit lowered, you want special consideration from the RCMP to up enforcement, you want special consideration from the city to ban heavy trucks from the road.

Yeah, no special favors.

PrinceGeorge,

Lets look at your reading comprehension from your post again. Two quotes:

"I am only guessing as to why you are taking such in interest in this matter when it really does not concern you a bit."

"You own two houses a quarter mile from Highland Drive."

Maybe if you get your 6 year old child to read this back to you and explain it, it might make some sense to you.

If I owned two houses a quarter mile from 5th Avenue would I be a person who resides on 5th Avenue?

No. Unless I LIVE in a house fronting on 5th Avenue.

Hope you can understand that. It's not too difficult.

Not that it matters to me whether you do or not. You don't make sense.

I have given up on you.

PrinceGeorge

Let me make this simple for you, god knows that's a prerequisite.

Your "special interest group and private club" appears to be limited to those who have a driveway which fronts on Highland Drive. Your special interest group wants special considerations from the city with NO REGARD to the other users of the road.

Have you considered that your special interest group quite possibly only encompasses 1% of the road traffic? Yet your special interest group feels they are entitled to make changes to the roadway for their own cause.

Highland Drive services a large area with a great deal of traffic. I can not access the 2 homes I have directly without using that road. I have owned homes in the area for over 35 years. I have paid more than my fair share of tax's, those tax's have been used to build and upgrade that road every bit as much as yours. WERE IN THE H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS do you get off thinking your special interest group has any more rights to that road than anybody else in the neighborhood?

Oh by the way, do you bitch and complain when those "gravel trucks" and heavy loaders come down the road in the winter to plow the snow and clean out the end of your driveway?

PrinceGeorge

Here is a link for you.

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special-interest group


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group trying to influence government policy: a group seeking to influence government policy in favor of an interest or issue