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Ignatieff Doesn't Care About Northern B.C.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 04:00 AM

Prince George, B.C.-  “Michael Ignatieff clearly has no regard for the people of northern BC or their best interests, and he has effectively closed the door on much-needed economic diversification and growth opportunities for this region”, said Colin Kinsley, Chair of the Northern Gateway Alliance.

Kinsley was reacting to Monday’s announcement that the federal Liberals under Michael Ignatieff would, if elected, prevent crude oil tanker traffic to and from the Port of Kitimat.

“Mr. Ignatieff has elected to vote against the North, against much-needed jobs and against equal opportunities for the people of Northern British Columbia and Alberta,” said Kinsley. “By targeting the Port of Kitimat with a proposed marine transportation ban, the Liberals are saying it is ok for the Ports of Vancouver, Quebec City, and eastern Canadian ports to reap the benefits of marine trade and commerce, but not for Kitimat and other northern communities. His proposed moratorium on tanker traffic using the Port of Kitimat is nothing more than politicking for Liberal votes in the Lower Mainland and urban Canada at the expense of the new jobs and investment that are so needed in BC’s northern communities.”

Kinsley, the former mayor of Prince George, is Chair of the Northern Gateway Alliance, a community coalition established to support the regulatory review of the Northern Gateway Pipeline project. The Alliance provides an opportunity for people in corridor communities and elsewhere to share information about the project, the regulatory review process and how people can participate in the review process. The Alliance is guided by a Board of Directors made up of people from corridor communities.

The Northern Gateway Alliance also pointed out that, contrary to the Liberal policy statement, there is no moratorium on oil tankers entering BC ports. Kinsley references an August 2005 letter from the Liberal then-Minister of Transport that emphasized that fact. Oil tankers enter today at the Port of Vancouver and at Kitimat as well, and have done so for decades. In 2009, Canada safely exported approximately 27 million barrels by tanker from Vancouver and safely delivered approximately 82 million barrels by tanker to Quebec City, approximately 28 million barrels to Halifax and approximately 89 million barrels to St. John. An additional 30 million barrels of petroleum products were also shipped through the Port of Vancouver, either for local consumption or transported up the B.C. coast to numerous ports to serve the needs of industry and the general public.

Kinsley noted that the proposed Northern Gateway Project will be a model of world-class safety and environmental standards. “In addition to jobs and investment in BC’s northern communities, Enbridge’s proposed pipeline project will provide a net benefit to Canada, open a secondary market for Canada’s oil export trade with emerging Asian markets, and strengthen the nation’s position as a global energy producer,” said Kinsley.


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All you have to do is look at the 'Gulf' to see where the much needed jobs are.
Isn't Kinsley the one that was instrumental in selling off BC Rail? 'Nuff said.
I learned in the military what the word "opportunity" often entailed. Yes, look at the job "opportunities" today in the Gulf of Mexico to see the future of work on the path of that damned pipeline.

I am SummerSoul and this is just SummerSoul's opinion.
well said mr kinsley.people that are against the line to kitimat are absolutely blind to the facts you have pointed out about how much oil is shipped in to canadian cities.lets get this line built and get some jobs and the economy going up here.
Right on Colin! Good story Opinion250. I'm for the jobs & not the Liberals.
Mr. Ignatieff and the NDP are in agreement on this one. Huge environmental risks, tiny benefits as far as permanent new jobs are concerned. About 65 new permanent jobs in Kitimat as stated in the media.

What are the "much-needed economic diversification and growth opportunities for this region" that one pipeline and one oil tanker loading dock will provide?

Any secondary manufacturing? Manufacturing of what?

How about being a little more specific instead of the usual political rhetoric?







holy smokes princegeorge,what a doom and gloomer.
We must have the nicest shorelines that he so much wants to protect them.

Tankers are still welcome on the east coast, down near Vancouver, St. Laurence seaway, and the great lakes. Clearly he does not feel a spill in any of those areas would be a disaster.

Clearly this is a rather transparent plan to woo environmentalist in central Canada, while at the same time not cause hardship and job losses in eastern and central Canada where they have some hope of getting votes.
It's politics folks!!!!!

One ex politician who embellishes on behalf of the company that provides him sustinance now.

The other a politican who wants to be the leader of the government in Canada.

Let's forget about them and determine for ourselves what the real story is rather than following either of them blindly.

So, where is the raw data which we need in order to make up our minds independently? What are the risks of a major spill? What are the response systems in place which would mitigate the effects of a spill.

Also, where exactly is the diversification in sending oil in a pipeline as opposed to natural gas, loading it on a ship, and sending it off to another country?

Mr. Kinsley is guilty of wrongly associating a proposed ban of transporting oil by sea to the shores of the northwest coast with a total ban on marine traffic.

But then, that is politics!!!
"We must have the nicest shorelines that he so much wants to protect them."

Actually we do not need to protect them as much as the Gulf of Mexico needs protection. We just have a few jobs compared to those that are dependent on the Gulf, so a spill would really not be that big a deal. I am sure $1 billion would cover cleanup and compensation in our case. None of that $20+ billion stuff.
A few hundred jobs is not worth the impact that a spill would cause to our beautiful coastline and the animals that live there. I agree with Mr Ignatieff! Thank God there is ONE person with pull that can see the folly of letting this happen. What happened to going green and pulling away from our gluttonous need for dirty oil? BC was suppose to be leading the way with this plan. We got the CARBON TAX, did we not?????? OUR FUTURE DEPENDS ON NOT LETTING ANOTHER GULF OIL SPILL TO HAPPEN. Think about the future, if not for yourself then for your grandchildren and their children. The way I see it Mr Ignatieff does care about our future.
There is more to this story than meets the eye, of course. Did a bit of snooping on the net.

It looks like Ignatieff is simply repsonding to the "can of worms" that needed to be opened up due to Enbridge and was opened up by the conservatives some three weeks ago at the least.

June 2, 2010 article:

http://dirtyoilsands.org/news/article/federal_ban_on_offshore_drilling_oil_tankers_not_legally_binding

"The Harper government has quietly affirmed that it isn't legally bound to maintain a moratorium on oil drilling off the coast of British Columbia.

The government has also determined that the ban doesn't apply to oil-tanker traffic, despite the widely held view that such vessels are prohibited from plying the waters along B.C.'s northern coast."

The question then becomes not what does Colin, a spokesperson for Enbridge's project think, but what do the people of BC's coast, Central BC, BC, and Canada think.

It will be some time before we find that out. In the meantime, why don't we have some fun and continue the rhetoric. If we are lucky, we will actually find out some factual information. But then again, is there anyone who really cares about "just the facts".

Joe Friday used to, but we have progressed since then. Polispeak is much more interesting.
So let me get this straight Ignatieff cares so much about BC that he wants to ban all oil tankers to and from Kitimat.

I guess Prince Rupert, Vancouver, or every port on the East coast doesn't rate that same treatment.

HYPOCRITE

If you really believe that oil tankers are bad, ban them from all ports.

If not... shut up.
For those looking for a positive side to the development.

Now that we have seen what kind of an event can happen with an ocean floor oil well drilling project, an ocean going super tanker incident, even if the entire payload goes into the water, will be miniscule compared to that.

So, hey, lets go ahead if that is the only risk. After all, we are "northerners" and not one of those city slicker environmentalists that always tries to tell us what to do as if this place belonged to them as well.
I agree. I think it is folly to limit oil tanker traffic to Vancouver. We have so much more potential along the west coast.

Rupert, Kitimat, Bella Coola (they need some industry too you know!) Squamish, Powell River.

We can't deny any of those coastal communities the economic opportunities that a pipeline will bring to their region.

I can just see it now. 10 ports along the coast in 40 years time ..... wait, isn't that about the time when China will have sucked us dry of our oil? Ah, yes, sustainable development ... well for a few decades anyway.
So he is saying that oil tankers enter Kitimat now? What have I been missing all these years?
What is being missed in this whole thing is that the northern route, rather than bringing the pipeline to Vancouver, is the "safest" route because there are so few people here. THAT is one of the key reasons it is being proposed in this area. Remember, Enbridge thinks safety first.
We must have the nicest shorelines that he so much wants to protect them.
we do and we should.
the way I see it is why make another opportunity for disaster, why not put a stop to new oil traffic in our waters?
"and strengthen the nation’s position as a global energy producer,” said Kinsley."
Uh, Colin, Mr. Kinsley? actually, the pipeline and oil tankers would strengthen our position as an exporter of resources, you want to talk about jobs and investment, how about refining the crude in B.C. or Alberta? Viewed cynically,
the most long term jobs the pipeline and port facility might generate are the ones needed for cleaning up the inevitable oil spill in B.C. waters.
metalman.
What has been completely overlooked in this debate is the fact that the pipeline will supply more fuel to pollute our environment . This is not only the product but also the tar sands that produce the product.

If we are really concerned about our environment the first step to being green would be to stop exporting our pollution to other countries.. Or we could shift the problem over to carbon offsets and make a ton of money for our governments to pee away on pet projects.
Cheers
Kinsley should be more concerned about his past "activities" than making statements about oil traffic. Besides, his favorite saying was "the smell of money", which points out he is out of touch with the current envronmental situation and thus less than qualified to be making public pronouncements on oil transportation.
Very interesting comments being made. The oil spill in the Gulf is an atronomical wake up call and B.P. is learning that lesson as are the citizens who live in around the shores that are being affected now and in the future. As mentioned in previous comments Ignatieff is certainly politicing and trying to to grab whatever votes he can. I'm sure the Northern vote, when the time comes will be making the right decisions. The watchdogs over the oil/gas industry will be putting some very stringent rules/laws in place to help prevent another Gulf disaster. But as many rules that "we" apply there will, inevitably, be another spill somewhere because we are only human and mistakes are made. Let's just hope it isn't in our "backyard". I believe the people of Northern B.C. can see right through Ignatief as he is a desperate man trying to keep his job of which he is failing miserably. A side note to this story is: Is Colin Kingsley a member of the federal Liberal party(?) and, was there not a "rumour" some time ago that he might run federally after he was finished being the Mayor of Prince George or maybe it was the Provincial side?
The First Nations have made their determined opposition known to both the pipeline and any oil tanker traffic on the coast.

If they stick to that position the projects are a no-go.

Now I duck because the bricks will start flying.
The environmental risk posed by this project is enormous, for mostly short term benefit. In addition to all of the usual problems with tankers, Kitimat is not really out on the coast. Reaching Kitimat requires navigating a series of narrow passages and ascending Douglas Channel, which considerably increases the chances of accidents. This is an unspoiled area rich in natural resources. Putting it at risk of an oil spill is insane. This is not the kind of development we need in the North. We should be glad that Mr. Ignatieff does care about the north.
A community coalition group? I think they are referred to as lobbyists

Why was this story not reported when the leader of the official opposition made the statement. The lobbyist Colin Kinsley gets reported on immediately. what great journalism.
It is the smell of money! I'll take Colin over Danny anyday and jobs over green any day too. First it was the air fairies & now it's the green fairies. Jobs brings money & money brings jobs. Green brings a lot of unemployeed people and no money.
Amen to that mythoughts!
All Kinsley is worried about is his bank account and that of his corporate pals!
"Green brings a lot of unemployeed people and no money."

Not so! Belgium and Germany for instance have several hundred thousand people working in new green industries: Wind turbine and solar cells design, manufacture and installation, bio gas and bio fuel plants design, manufacture and installation...you name it!

Exports of these high tech green technologies and hardware bring in big bucks!

If Canada is not with it - it will be out of it.

That's the global reality.
don't forget princegeorge,all the wind turbines and anything else that turns,including bicycles and electric cars etc,need lubrication to keep running,so we will always need fuel and oil.
Nobody is suggesting to cap all the oil wells tomorrow! We are far too dependent on the crude!

Going green doesn't mean dumping the baby out with the bath. It's o.k. to make the green effort, nothing will grind to a halt. Don't worry, be happy!
mythoughts colin is not an elected official he is purely self interested. sure u can say that about an elected official as well but I am not that cynical. the airfairies? air quality has never been an issue? its still an issue any many jurisdictions including our own? It was environmentalists in california that got car manufacturers to lower their emissions starting in the 70's. Northern BC has been laggard in environmental standards, job growth, quality of life, economic growth, etc. A prime reason is because people are stuck in this green vs. jobs debate. most of the world is already passing us by on the environmental front and the longer we wait the harder its going to be to catch up.
Enbridge bought a couple of ex politicians to sell this plan of exploitation to the citizens of B.C. This could have huge environmental impact with little in the way of jobs. The economy is still bad but let's stand behind David Luggi and stop this!
The oil in the gulf is NOT a 'spill'
Lets build the pipeline I say. Maybe the midnight pipeline bomber will help create more jobs?
I have no doubt Richard Fadden (CSIS)has one eye directly on Colin Kinsley and his goings on. This project is all about getting China cheep oil and nothing about building Canada's long term economy or protecting our natural resources. It essentially represents subsidizing an economic competitor and taking on all the environmental risks for doing this. Canada needs a true national energy policy before we start talking about projects like this.
Turns out Obama's Chief of Staff Rehm Emanuel, the former IDF soldier, has been living in a mansion paid for by BP for the last 6-years.

Now we find out from Wayne Madson Reports that Obama, his Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar, Secretary of Energy Steve Chu, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were informed of the BP Macondo well over a year before the disaster happened and had not only first hand knowledge of this unprecedented well, but also had their hands all over its approval process.

The idea was BP would drill an unprecedented 35,000 foot well into a reserve larger than mount Everest called the Macondo formation and would have its safety regulations waved because of high level interest from those three men. The idea was this would be the reserve America would replace Middle Eastern oil from for up to 8-months in the event Iran cut off the Straight of Hormuz in an eventual attack on Iran... and so the decisions were made from a national security perspective to fast track the development of this formation.

The real scary thing is their back up plan was a well 40,000 feet below the ocean surface in the Liberty field off the North coast of Alaska (deep well pressure for a fast flowing well)... and this other well is full speed ahead now for the same reasons they cut corners on the Macondo BP well that is now a global catastrophe.
is their a source for rahm emanuel's living arrangements?