I Wanted to pass on my thanks to the guy with the river boat who helped pull out an individual that got caught in the fast flowing Nechako River this past Monday. I was near the boat launch when a lady expressed concern that a young mentally challenged man was going to miss the boat launch and keep on floating by. Right after that another individual jumped in the river with no life jacket to help get this guy out but could not reach him and swam back to shore. As luck would have it, a jet boat was launching within minutes of this happening and was asked to go pick the buy up and reached him I'm told at the mouth of the Fraser River.

Couple things came to mind, a young guy on a floating tube with no life jacket with some type of learning difficulty if you will not being properly looked after and with the Nechako moving fast because of a higher release from the reservoir because of spawning salmon was a recipe for a disaster.

Thank God for the people of PG willing to help those in need at any given moment. Enjoy your weekend.


Brian Skakun

does anyone know how far any of the fires are away from prince george or is the closest one in williams lake

I think the people should have to answer to why they would let a young guy go down the river with no life jacket.Did they have a rescue plan just in case he would float bye

I cant be the only one that gets up this early

darrl you can check this web site to keep you up to date on the fires. www.bcwildfire.ca

The key one the MoF is saying our smoke is from is the Pelican Lake complex.

Information on that specific one is here:
http://bcwildfire.ca/hprScripts/WildfireNews/OneFire.asp?ID=381

Here is the page with other key fires on it:
http://bcwildfire.ca/hprScripts/WildfireNews/OneFire.asp

Here is an image from the Pelican Lake complex which shows the dead tree mixed stand it is in http://bcwildfire.ca/ftp/!Project/WildfireNews/842010~125818_C10209%20100728%201500A%2039.JPG That was taken July 26, 2010.

The Pelican Lake complex is over 15,000 hectares, has not yet been contained according to the info. It is 80 km south west of PG as the crow flies or the smoke drifts.

We should wonder how Stockwell (Skidoo) Day knows that unreported crime is on the increase. Perhaps it is his pipeline to the Almighty which revealed this to him.
If this is the sole rationale for Harper's tightening of sentencing, it is pretty flimsy. Longer sentences will cost us all as the prison industry gears up for ever larger populations.
Is Harper trying to catch up with the United States as having the largest percentage of the population incarcerated?

"Longer sentences will cost us all as the prison industry gears up for ever larger populations."

Can't leave them free to roam the streets and commit crimes either! Most of the crimes are done by habitual law breakers.

If they are locked up they can't break the law.

Too bad.

These are graphs of readings over the last 24 hours in PG and Williams Lake for those who may not have been able to look at them on the air quality web site. It clearly shows the "off the chart" spiking as the smoke rolls in and out.
http://i38.tinypic.com/2qv5bpe.jpg

Day uses the frequency that he has been hit over the head without reporting it as an indicator.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Politics/20100804/nicholson-day-100804

The Justice minister's response: "Nicholson's office circulated talking points in support of Day's remarks at a Tuesday new conference during which he said the number of unreported crimes is "alarming and it shows that we can't take a liberal view to crime."

In support of Day, Nicholson's spokeswoman referred to the General Social Survey conducted by Statistics Canada that asks people if they've been victims of crimes and if they reported them to police."
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Here is how criminologists look at it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_figure_of_crime
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Let us take an example.

You know someone or someone's kid who has shoplifted recently.

You know someone who does drugs.

These are crimes.

Do you report them if they are friends?

Good ol wetsuit Stocky also thinks man walked with dinosaurs 6000 years ago. Yup that's a six with three zeroes. brilliant man.

We can't keep filling up our prisons. Who is going to pay for it.

Change the laws so that if your caught in a criminal activities you will pay the price. None of this underage protection crap. your 16, you know whats right and whats not. If you commit a crime, wham your in the slammer, and your a boy toy. That is your best deterent to future criminals.

If your caught selling drugs, automatic 60 days, 2nd time 120 days, 3rd time its 60 days in hard labor camp.

If your caught stealing the first time its 30 days, 2nd time 60 days, third time 30 days in hard labor camp.

Drinking and Driving, 15 days in hard labor camp on first offense. 2nd offense 45 days in hard labor camp no DL for one year. Third time, 45 days in Hard Labor Camp, no DL for ten years.

If your guilty of the crime, you pay the price. None of this lawyer crap of getting them off on a technicality.

Put some teeth into our judicial system.

Hard Labor camps mean, The good old chain gang, building roads and cleaning up. Have them put something back into our society. Let them be seen as a deterrent for the next generation. They will have to work hard, they get fed well and treated well.

Last Election results

Stockwell Day 29,210
NDP 8,265
GRN 6,687
LIB 6,070.

Seems old wetsuit Stockwell Day got more votes than all the other parties combined. Hmmmmmmm. Does this mean that 29,210 people are wrong, or does it mean that 29,210 peope are right, and we are wrong. Hmmmmmm.

I think many crimes go "unreported" because the public often now has the perception the police won't do anything about them anyways.

A neighbour rented his house to a clean-cut young couple with a small child. Some months later he visited the property, unaware his tenants wouldn't be home, and accidently discovered strong indications they had a full scale 'grow show' going in the garage.

Windows covered with black plastic, a large vent pipe out an opening cut in the back wall, sounds of a fan running inside, etc.. He called the cops, expecting they'd want to come take a look.

Instead they told him to give the tenants the required 24 hours notice that he wanted to do a "Landlord's inspection".

Which he did ~ and then later that evening watched from our property as a small flotilla of vans pulled into "his" house's driveway and hauled away all the plants and growing apparatus. Vans driven by the type of people you wouldn't want to just run into unwittingly, and have any altercation with.

When he did his inspection next day, everything had been restored to normal.

Who can have respect for a police force that has that kind of attitude? That puts a citizen who believes he's not only doing his civic duty in reporting criminal activity, but has a desire to protect his own property from the type of problems grow shows can cause?

The police were putting him at considerable personal risk in not really knowing what kind of a situation he might be facing in such an instance, due to their unwillingness to even investigate.

I have since heard, from a relative who is in the RCMP elsewhere in Canada, that the current governments, both BC and Federal, have the RCMP on such a tight budget they can no longer afford, "financially", to do a proper job of policing.

That, for instance, one detachment could only use their patrol cars three days a week, unless they were called out to some emergency on one of the other four days. And it had better be something serious that requires their attendance. That's all they were budgeted in gasoline expense for. What's going on here? What's next?

Will we come down to the point where, if you slide off an icy raod and wrap your car around a power pole, requiring a time consuming "Jaws of Life" extraction while you lay there bleeding profusely, that every ambulance/rescue crew will have a member doubling as an accountant with a stop watch to make sure they're "within budget"? Can't you just hear it now?

"Times up on this one boys, we'd better head back to the station."

"Do we have to, Chief, five more minutes we'll have him out."

"No way, were already over budget on this, leave him, he's probably a goner anyways."

Ah, the power mere 'figures' have over things when we elevate them to such supreme importance.

The problem with labour camps is this - suppose you are a road builder and you get layed off because the prisoners are building roads on the taxpayers dime...

I always thought crime was a money game, so take away the financial incentive. Add huge fines to drug dealing offences. Make it so ridiculously expensive that you can't get a dealer on the street stupid enough to think he can make any money at it. IE: caught selling drugs, your in a hard labor camp making minimum wage until you have paid back 100K. Or you can pony up the cash. Second offence 200K, etc. If people can still make a lot of money at it they are going to risk longer prison sentences. Poverty basically is prison, selling drugs is a quick way out. Take that away and why would you sell drugs?

Stockwell Day 29,210
NDP 8,265
GRN 6,687
LIB 6,070.

It means you are in conservative country ..... :-)

Build the prisons in the northern territories. Think about it, a short cool summer with the pleasant company of black flies and mosquitoes big enough to carry away small animals, followed by a winter like no Torontonian has ever seen.

Escape would be near impossible as the guards would be able to watch the prisoner run away for days.

After an incarceration like that, they will not go back. They will either not get caught doing crime again or will resist arrest very stridently, possibly ending with the lead pill solution before the courts are even involved.

Stocks votes come from the religious right, people who believe the cons are fiscally conservative (guess what, they're not), and of course organized crime. Kelowna's economy is supported by vice. The war on drugs means big profits for gangs.

Here is an interesting site about wind power, http://www.nofreewind.com/

Prison guard in Milhaven Fed Pen charged with 7 offences of trafficking when $90,000 of dope found inside the max security pen. We can't even control drugs in prison with armed guards, dogs, barbed wire fences & cameras 24-7.....what a joke. How are the police expected to control it outside on the streets ? There is no political will to stop the drug problem in this country. Drugs keep a lot of people employed.

I agree with the suggestions put forth by He spoke, but if we went for a sensible system like that, there would not be as much work for the criminal lawyers (boo hoo)
We will never be rid of the common criminal. Look at some of the U.S. states that still have the death penalty, is that (death) not the ultimate punishment? Those states continue to sentence numnutts to death for certain crimes, so the prospect of dying does not seem to be much of a deterrent to someone bent on a life outside the law.
metalman.

Appeal Court of BC increases Hells Angel John Punko sentence to 5 years from original sentence of 14 months for drug trafficking. This is above the 34 months in pre-trial. Amazing ! The original trail judge felt it necessary to give a reduced sentence because of behaviour the judge considered to be 'police misconduct'. What about the Hells Angels misconduct ? Good job Appeal Court. LMAO!

Seems to me that those poor folks flooded out in Pakistan could have been on the bad side of Allah. If we could only convince them all that Allah is displeased and they should change their ways. I can't seem to come up with any amount of sympathy let alone reaching for my wallet to help people who have acquaintances who call me an infidel and wish to kill me. Sure hope everything in Pakistan works out and the folks there can convince the government to scrap their nuclear arsenal and kind of bring their country into the 21st century. On another note I haven't heard or read anything about the oil spill in China. It would be interesting if the biggies in Beijing would print up glossy brochures in Cantonese and Mandarin to assure the po' folk in China that their government is on the job and looking out for their welfare. Lastly, I also haven't heard or read about the investigation in Europe about the seven billion dollars gone astray from their climate change bank account. Smoking and taking a walk in PG now is kind of redundant, if you get my drift. Have a nice weekend and don't breathe too deep.

Just a friendly reminder that David Eby with the BC Civil Liberties will be here next Saturday Aug. 15th, Fort George Park (stage) @ noon to discuss policing issues and what we the public would like to see in regards to this topic.


Please come out and (kindly) join in the discussion no matter what your opinion may be.

http://www.bccla.org/temp/Northerntour2.html

Eby and BCCL are not interested in any different opinion. Their minds are already made up......don't confuse them with the facts ! One can only hope for a thunderstorm so maybe some will get hit by lightening and shocked into reality !

Eby and BCCL are not interested in any different opinion. Their minds are already made up......don't confuse them with the facts ! One can only hope for a thunderstorm so maybe some will get hit by lightening and shocked into reality !

Anyone notice that there are no Water Bombers flying around. Up until yesterday you heard them from early AM all day long.

Heard a rumour that we have run out of Aviation Gasoline. Is that possible. Where does it come from.

It wouldnt surprise me that there is a shortage, as these planes have been flying steady for a couple of weeks and they must burn one hell of a lot of gas.

Palopu there are other airports for the bombers to use not just PG airport by anymeans.

yes, but, how many of them have an unused 33 million dollar runway

You could be right Seamutt, however on the other hand you just might find a couple parked at the local Airport.

Tankers don't fly when they can't see the ground through the smoke.

harbinger u are a racist.

Tankers are staged all over the province and are didpatched as required as well as maintenace and crew flight hour issues. Go up and ask.

Here is an interesting read I picked up,,,

The 9% Hydro rate increase is undoubtedly destined for the public
treasury. Over the years, billions of dollars from BC Hydro and
ICBC are quietly siphoned off to the public purse. These crown
corporations are supposed to operate at arm’s length from the government,
but in practice these entities are annually required to cut
the government a whopping 50%+ dividend from their net profits.
BC Hydro and ICBC are effectively large cookie jars that are
regularly hi-jacked to bolster sagging government revenues.
In reality the 9% rate hike at BC Hydro will just become a
transfer payment from BC Hydro to the public treasury, and it
is from that purse that those lucrative MLA pay increases will be
paid. Moreover, the recent increase in the number of MLA’s (79
to 87) means their overall base salary cost grew from $6 million
in 2007 to $8.9 million in 2009. Combined with the actual salary
raises, that’s an overall base salary increase of 48%.
Whenever Finance Minister Colin Hansen speaks, all I can
hear is self-serving, self-preserving, double talk.

Thank you hood rich for calling harbinger to task for his horribly stereotypical comments.

I am sure the many women, children, and yes - men of Pakistan just go about their days as we do - getting by, with no thoughts and very little control of what their government and fellow country men are doing.

Please do not lump an entire people into one catagory due to their location, religion, government, skin color, etc.

Such statements only show a lack of critical thinking on the part of the writer and may be regretted at a later date when empathy and education lead to a change of opinion.

the Mars water bomber is on Fraser Lake ,no need for an multi million dollar runway extension there and kinda cool to see it

The most profound article I've read all week and in quiet a while. Surprised Bloomberg published it... if you don't understand the implications read it again, and if not then then read it again... this is huge news... it means the monetary system is hijacked by criminals operating above the law and making a mockery of the free markets, capitalism, and the idea of a sovereign currency all in the name of such. They stole trillions and they don't want Congress to have any information on what they did. The criminals are currently in charge of America's economic recovery which will have profound effects for everyone on the planet.

Secret Banking Cabal Emerges From AIG Shadows: David Reilly

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-01-28/secret-banking-cabal-emerges-from-aig-shadows-david-reilly.html

""Yet when unelected and unaccountable agencies pick banking winners while trying to end-run Congress, even as taxpayers are forced to lend, spend and guarantee about $8 trillion to prop up the financial system, our collective blood should boil. ""

On a more realistic note, when are you inconsiderate boneheads with the loud car stereos going to stop driving around where people are living and trying to sleep with your frikken music cranked up so loud?

Seriously, what is it with you people?

Who me, or that guy over there.... lol

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2010/07/20/LiberalizingHydro/


Go feed your bears pal!

Hey Kinsley is this what you are trying to bring us here in BC???

http://thetyee.ca/News/2010/07/31/EnbridgeDirtyDozen/