Ok PACHA let's hear your latest excuse for why the levels are so low. I wanna hear your latest set of lies and mistruths

HMMMM, I wonder if there going to find themselves as effective as the DBIA.

I am not quite catching why people are hitting up PACHA. They relied on MoE data.

1. It was the MoE that had the tests done.
2. It was the MoE that took a long time to release the info
3. It was the MoE that released the figures as high as they were without - after all the time they took to verify what they had before they finally released them - honing in on an explanation.
4. It was the MoE that decided they would have to do some retests in order to ensure that the levels were repeatable and waht levels would be if more frequent tests were done.

As soon as the MoE got the results they did they had to take further action to do their due diligence.

PACHA had nothing to do with the testing. The "scare" was generated due to the handling by the MoE, no one else as far as I am concerned.

In my mind it shows how little such testing they do and the resulting unfamiliarity they have with how to handle raw data which has to be converted using molecular weights, etc. I do not understand why they did not get the lab to report in the format that the MoE uses to report out.

I believe I am correct by saying that there really has not been a full report out of exactly what happened on their end.

BTW, there has also not been a reporting out by the MoE that tells us why the current information can be trusted. What are they doing to make sure that the same mistake will not happen again, IF it was a mistake.

In my point of view their credibility is still at stake.

That is not to say that I do not tend to believe the current figures much more than the original ones.

Formaldehyde levels are only high during a release (yellow death fog). Try testing during the periods where the yellow fog are present and you'll get a much different result. These most recent tests are just a sell job to the public, and from the looks of most of the comments here, the gullible are eating this up like lollypops. I'll never understand this culture of refuing to see the truth. I guess ignorance is a very powerful reality in this area.

No worries man. They will continue to monitor levels. In October, when the cold air sits low to the ground and the morning mist carries the smell of money wafting across the river and into the residential areas, they will see what we smell.

Is Pulp mill even running at full capacity or even at all?

I am not quite catching why people are hitting up PACHA. They relied on MoE data.

Yes and the MOE has them snowed under as well. The new President of Pasha in a letter to the membership tells us she has met with the Mayor, Northern Health, MOE and Canfor and I give you a quote on what she came up with and called it good news:

“It appears that the recent announcement regarding the partnership between Lakeland Mills and
the City of Prince George to create a downtown biomass energy plant will lead to cleaner air in
Prince George.”

Will burning wood waste give us cleaner air in the Bowl? You have herd the one about Elmer,”don’t eat that Elmer its hores***t.

And the MOE is in bed with industry. They used to provide us with daily readings from the monitoring stations at Plaza 400 and the BCR Industrial site these are no .longer available. They are now telling us that industrial pollution is on par in the bowel with wood burning and the type of vehicles that are driven. Wonder if we could get some funding to purchase hybrid vehicles

I agree with you comment about PACHA calling it good news. Very premature, in my opinion.

The only defense I have for them is that the statement uses the words "It appears" rather than "will". But people do not observe such nuances when it reaches the public. You could say that to the engineer in charge and he would hopefully get the message that you do not have all the information.

We do not have all the information!!! In fact, in my opinion there is so little information that there is not way anyone can tell whether there is anything very significant that will come from this with respect to emissions and air quality improvements.

I believe gas emits less GHG than wood per unit heat produced. Thus, this should increase the amount of GHG put out per square foot of building assuming that there will be no other changes made to the buildings which would reduce their cooling and heating loads.

But PACHA is not concerned about GHG. They are concerned about air quality.

I forgot one important thing.

Why do we not have the full operating assumptions on which the assessment was made by the City that this will be a total reduction is air polluting emissions and that they will be significant.

Either they have not completed the actual calculations, or they have something to hide.

All that was shown at the public hearing appeared to be Lakeland's part in all of this. Even on that part, the information about trucking, etc. was skimpy.

The bottom line most certainly is that they are now putting in scrubbers that they should have put in a long time ago but did not need to because they have a permit to produce the tonnage of particulates they produce.

I doubt the total tonnage permitted will be reduced.

It is the City's involvement that will provide the money to allow the scrubber to be put in. Public, not private money.