See you at the Courthouse!
Be there to make your voice heard on this critical issue. This is too important to miss.

I know alot of people who will be DRIVING well over 200 kms to attend the rally..

The same people who oppose pipe lines sure like the advantages of buring fuel at their leasure..

As well if you want this line to stop.. Quit being a conumer of fuel and stop purchasing the cheap crap that you buy in these big box stores where everything is imported from china.

Its too easy to point the fingers at someone else when you yourself are a part of the problem.

People who don't want this line better not be burning fossil fuels and not having children it's that simple. If growth was not there they would not be putting this line in!!!

This pipeline is not being built for the residents of BC.It is being built by a foreign corporation to increase their profit. It is being built to export a product from the tar sands.

The extraction of oil from the tar sands produces a lot more more polluion then a few vehicles traveling 200 km to attend this rally. Infact its prodution has received attention around the world as one of th biggest polluters in existance todate.
Cheers

The Point is, not what you will burn and use
in your Vehicle , it is shipping Tanker after Tanker to China or where ever. This is a cold Place lets keep this Energy for all Canadians and Future Generation maybe even lowering the Cost to us. Money, Money and more of the same as fast as you can get it.

"This pipeline is not being built for the residents of BC.."

It will be used to ship goods from china to walmart and outlets like that ect ect..

Every dollar we spend on imported goods from China and Asia is another justification for this pipe line.

The POINT is.....The risk to the environment is far greater than the short term benefits of the small amount of jobs it will create. The PLANET and our beautiful British Columbia do not deserve this risk and either do our grandchildren. We all drive and yes we all contribute to the oil need but that is not the reason WE HAVE to put a pipe line across our rivers and risk our ocean to please the Chinese. They own over 50% of the oil sands now thanks to Alberta's greed. We all know how the Chinese have treated their own soil. How can we expect them to respect ours. WE NEED TO MOVE FROM OIL! Running a pipe line is not moving us towards this goal. Why are we paying a carbon tax and better yet why are we British Columbians the only ones paying this tax? Please think about the future of this planet and the future generations rather than concentrating on a few short term jobs. Stop trying to justify more oil because we all have to drive. What is needed is the alternatives that big oil is stopping us from pursuing for their own greedy reasons.

Enbridge is a Canadian corporation with the majority of its shareholders in Canada. I would say virtually anyone with any kind of pension plan or mutual fund will own this company. So knock off the Foreign Multi national BS.

Further more China does not own 50% of the tar sands. If the anti pipeline crowd wants any credibility, stop making up BS stats in your arguments.

Oil is product no different than wood or anything else. Who cares who you are selling it to? As long as they have the money to pay what does it matter if this oil gets shipped to Timbuktu? If you think there is so much money to be made on oil why don't you start up your own oil company - oh thats right, you're all just a bunch of lowlifes mad at the world and want to try to get back at The Man. How pathetic you will be when this pipeline gets built.

I don't like pipelines either. I just want my gasoline to magically appear in the tanks under my favourite gas station. Oh yeah, keep it cheap. Around a dollar a litre. Well at least there will be no teeny boppers there with signs that say "No blood for oil" at this rally.

dow 7500

READ and weep buddy. Do your research before you type please.

http://oilsandstruth.org/china-buys-more-tar-sands-now-owns-50-proposed-mine

imo

read and weep? There are many operating oil sand mines. The one you refer to is only one propesed mine. What about the many operating mines that have zero chinese ownership? what about suncore, Canadian oilsands, CNRL, etc. Do your research before you type, clown.

well said dow,the province needs the revenue coming in from the oil etc sold to china or anyone else.otherwise the province will get the neccessary revenue from the tax payers.no one likes oil spills, but they do happen at times.

Okay, so we don't build the pipeline - then what? We sell oil to China, China sells crap to the U.S., the U.S. ships food to us. Do we stop eating?

How about we all drive electric cars where possible? Problem is electric cars burn coal. We are a net importer of electricity and coal is where it is coming from. Electric cars means demand for more electrity which means more coal fired plants. Anyone in favor of a nice big nuclear power plant in their backyard. We have lots of uranium.

So let's shut the tarsands down completely. What happens then. What exactly does Canada produce in abundance that we can sell the the U.S. and China for our consumer goods. Lumber, pulp, minerals, wheat. Everyone of those has a pollution problem of some sort. Oil sands are just sexy to attack because when they screw up the mess is huge. But a mine leaches into the environment over years creating similar messes.

The solution is really to stop having children, and have the human race die out and leave the planet to the non polluting animals, except I read most methane comes from beef, so we should eat them before we go.

As sarcastic as I'm being here, what I need is reasoned plan that lets people continue to exist, and provides us with a decent standard of living. I think many of the people at the rally would cry foul if they went to hospital only to find they had to pay for health care because no tax base exists anymore.

dow7500 ftw!

The small detail that seems to be missing here is the fact that that oil is not from this province, nor is it being delivered to us.

With that in mind and the fact they are only traversing our province with a hazardous material using a system that is proven to be less than reliable, tell me again how this benefits me?

I am still waiting for my owelympics benefits cheque. Remember that was supposed to benefit all BC residents. I am still not seeing a benefit other than to our elected officials and the corporate sponsors.

dow7500, baah

before you eco-nazis string me up, I have only pointed out that Enbridge is a Canadian company and not some godless multi-national, and that the chinese do not own 50% of canada,s oil sands. I have concerns over tanker trafic into Kitimat, but not so much with the actual pipeline. There are thousands of miles of pipelines accross North America. You can be assured that the Enbridge proposal will be state of the art. Contrary to many posters beliefs, their is zero upside to Enbridge to building a potential environmental and subsequent financial disaster. However, accidents will happen and a tanker spill in the Douglas Channel would be horrific.

btw abbreviations are for losers weaksauce

Is there anyway to clean up a spill if the pipeline leaks under a water crossing during the winter? The answer is no. The Pine River spill in 1990 cost over $30 million to clean up, and it happened during Spring. Enbridges' spill in Michigan was 3 times the size of the Pine River spill and the company expects the cleanup to cost between $300 and $400 million dollars. This spill also happened when the river was ice free. The proposed pipeline has over 750 planned water crossings.
There is already a pipeline from Alberta to Vancouver that will allow tar-sands oil to be shipped to China. It is owned by Kinder Morgan, and has just been doubled in size. Should we jeopardize every single river system in BC to allow for the export of our oil? The only potential benefit I see is to Enbridge and that is a highly risky one at that. Look at the share price of B.P. If I was an Enbridge stock holder, I would take a long hard look at this project.

Most the posters on here obviously prefer to name call rather than dealing with facts.

1. as Loki said, the oil is not from BC so we do not get any money from it other than a few construction and transport operating jobs.

2. BC's electricity does not come from coal, Alberta's does. There is one plant in the lower mainland that produces electricity from natural gas. We import some from Alberta because we are exporting some to the USA. If we were to cut the USA off, then we would not need Alberta's dirty electricity.

3. It appears that Alberta has lot's of dirty energy ... :-) Alberta is also the province where people do not give a chit about the environment.

4. "The same people who oppose pipe lines sure like the advantages of buring fuel at their leasure" Yes, they are pointing out it is their choice to buy it and their fuel to burn. They do not want it to be China's fuel to burn. To get the amount we need we do not have to build another pipeline.

5. As far as buying cheap crap in stores made in China, there are two aspects to that. One is that some of it is not that cheap any more and that problem will correct itself since India will be competing for the honour of cheap sources of low cost consumer goods.

The second part to that is that the more raw resources we sell to China the more goods we will be able to buy from them. So, if you want to keep and increase jobs at home then don't buy it with the dollars we make from unprocessed products. People here seem to get all over the government for allowing raw log exports but don't see the analogy with oil.

6. There are existing ways to get the oil out. It is not sitting there right now waiting for a pipeline to be built. Not every utility that creates electricity has to build their own transmission line to a populated destination. They share.

My understanding is that there is sufficient capacity. In fact, there are those who are saying that the Enbridge line will reduce the amount of oil flowing through pipelines as more un-needed capacity comes on stream and the unit price of transporting oil will rise.

http://oilsandstruth.org/transcanada-takes-rival-enbridge

Gotta agree with Gus on this one.

Gus wrote

"Alberta is also the province where people do not give a chit about the environment."

Is that one of your facts?

300 people protesting , eh? Not quite like the movie I once saw about the Spartans and the Persians tho. A small minority of nobodies don't set the agenda. If they did we would have a more interesting democracy. Sure hope these protesters didn't have any problem finding parking. Or did they all show up on covered wagons with sails?