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No Decision Yet on New Golf Course Lands Plan

By 250 News

Monday, November 01, 2010 09:40 PM

 

Image of what fully developed property might look like.

Prince George, B.C.- It has been  several years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in the making, and the  final  development plan for the  Prince George Golf and Curling Club lands, is still not approved by  Prince George City Council.

The plan  was tweaked after  a public consultation round that  garnered comments calling for more park space, higher density housing, and  approval for the  retention of the Pine Valley Golf Course.

The plan  provides for the following:

Type of Development

Old Plan

New Plan

Townhouses

5.9 acres

16.55 acres

Single Family dwellings

7.6 acres

0

Multiple Family

19.1 acres

19.1 acres

Seniors Housing

5.0 acres

6.0 acres

Park Space

24.9 acres

27.6 acres

Pine Valley Golf Course

38.3 acres

38.3 acres

Mall Expansion

5.0 acres

8.3 acres

Arterial Commercial

18.0 acres

18.0 acres

Neighbourhood Commercial

12.8 acres

12.8 acres

Regional Commercial

29.8 acres

29.6 acres

 

Manager of Long Range Planning, Dan Milburn, says it is likely the first phase of  development would happen in the  driving range lands.  He says it will likely be at least 25 years before the site is  fully developed, however,  Milburn adds, the City has been working with a potential developer who "wants to be significantly more aggressive" in developing the properties.

The change in housing density means the area  can handle up to 1024 housing units, up from  the plan presented in June  which  proposed 963 units.

Councilor Cameron Stolz  has concerns about the housing capacity, especially since the plans for the downtown call for  Wood Residential Innovation housing in the  area  near the Crescents neighbourhood.  He says he would support strip  commercial development, but not the housing portion as it would compete with the efforts to develop housing  components downtown.

Councillor Munoz wanted  a minor change, making  certain an "auto mall"would not be included in the allowed  uses in the regional  commercial set for the  corner of  highway 16 and 97.

Council voted instead to postpone the decison until  staff have a chance to review the suggested changes and  the potential impacts of those changes.  Milburn says given the work already underway, the earliest this item could return is November 29th.

Kevin Bowman,the President of the Prince George Golf and Curling Club, had hoped the final decision  would come tonight, but that doesn't mean he is disappointed "No,it's just part of the process, we'll wait until the 29th and see where it goes from there."

 The lack of decision  tonight doesn't change anything for the Golf Club,  there is still an interested buyer, however, he had hoped  tonight would  see them moving forward "I did expect they would approve it tonight, but  at the same time, I wasn't  naieve enough to believe  there wouldn't be hiccups too."

In the meantime the plans for the new golf course  are on hold, there has been no new work on that project for two years,  and the Club is financially challenged as memberships are sliding.  "Our fees are competitive with other facilities in the province,  and in the region, and those  are what dictate what we can charge for our  product,  and at the end of the day we  need to have  the best product available and be  competitive and have  something that's marketable and attractive,  and right nw we don't have  that.  So we need resolution on this, one way or the other, so we can  develop a plan and move forward, soon." 

In May of this year,  the  Club indicated it had a buyer for the property.  A deposit had been  made, but  before closing the deal, a neighbourhood plan  had to be  developed. 

Bowman says in January of 2011 it will be six years since they received the first offer on the property.

The Club needs the funds from the sale of the lands before it can move forward with its plan to build a new  golf course  to the west of  Foothills Boulevard in  the area known as Harper Valley. 


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Typical Prince George timeline. 6 years to get anything accomplished.
I wonder about the high density housing, one of the major attractions to Prince George is the comparatively low cost of a single family house. They just put a large townhouse complex in across from John MacInnis and it doesn't seem to be selling out anytime soon. Oh well, as long as it gets built with private money, who cares if the sell or not.
My goodness - even snails move faster than city council/admin of PG. Business friendly - NOT.
This plan is going nowhere. Time has changed everything. We have more housing complexes in this town than we need. Most of them have hundreds of lots ready to develop if the market ever picks up.

Problem is, we do not have a growing population, nor is business growing in this area, so the question is, who will use all this extra housing???? The complex at Aberdeen Golf Course is designed for 200 houses. After 10 or more years there are approx 50 houses built. 10 or 12 of these were Spruce Kings Lotto Homes. The complex on Tyner Blvd has 3 houses not yet complete, with another 75 lots for sale, and no takers. Same thing in College Heights etc;

To say that the PG Golf and Curling club is financially challenged is an understatement of huge proportions. This Golf Course is on its last legs.

1. The majority of members are over the age of 65.

2. There are very few new members joining.

3. The Golf Course has a serious debt problem.

4. Golf courses all over North America are experiencing a drop in memberships, and green fees, mainly because of the high cost. A number of major courses in the Okanogan are facing financial difficulties, and some have gone bankrupt.

5. Because of a decrease in population in Prince George and a severe decrease in the earnings of a significant number of residents, people can no longer afford to pay huge sums of money for a game of golf.

6. The City continues to tax the hell out of people and at the end of the day all levels of Government ensure that there is no money available to spend on recreation, etc; Business cannot flourish in an enviorment where the majority of a persons earnings are paid to Governments in taxes.

7. The cost to build a new Golf Course in Harper Valley is apparently $15 Million. I seriously doubt that they can build a quality course for that amount. Even if they did, they will no longer have the curlers to support them, and their memberships will take another serious decline. Add to that the age of the majority of their members and you can see what the result of this investment will be.

What the Golf Course needs to do is to get one of those cushy two or three million dollar interest free loans from the Northern Trust Initiative Fund, and upgrade the present course and pay off its debt. It can then begin to try and attract new members. There is no need to go out into the boondocks. They should forget about developing the property and leave it as a golf course.

Its time they woke up and smelled the roses. Screw the developers, let them go somewhere else. We have hundreds of thousands of hectares of property in this part of the Country, that can be developed. We dont need to kill off this golf course.