Bring it on!! Enough already with these gangsters. Hard to look cool sitting out in the parking lot. Publish a list of the establishments that welcome these lowlifes.

Who goes to the bar anyway, can't afford to have a beer, you'll get your vehicle impounded.

Time to step up and do something and Rogers is already dragging his feet. Get on it Dan, get er done.

I would think the increasing divide between the haves and have nots in Canada has to be a significant contributing factor in our "gang problem".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8088596/Generation-of-young-people-could-turn-to-crime-as-jobs-go-warns-police-chief.html

Let us know which bars won't let the police in, I for one won't ever go there again.

They used to have a bar watch program. It was disolved over a year ago.

I would really enjoy sitting down with friends having dinner at Winston's or sitting in the lounge associated with the restaurant and having uniformed police wandering through.

The day that happens, I will refrain from going to restaurants.

It seems to me that we got ourselves into this mess by not maintaining our social well being. That has been made clear by several reading several reports from the speakers at the summit that just took place here.

It is very frustrating to see that we care so little about our social order and watch it decay in front of our very eyes.

Why dont they name the restaurant that wont let the police in? Let the consumer decide - I suspect the drop in sales might change thier mind.

who else is gonna buy a 10 dollar drink at the bar

Bar Watch would be an excellent preventative tool. What is the possibility of someone opening fire in a bar/restaurant in retaliation? Mitch Henry was gunned down in the parking lot of Moxie's almost three years ago. His killers have not been brought to justice. Nothing would stop some of these animals from taking their business inside an establishment.
I applaud business owners like Jordy Hoover who runs his own Bar Watch in his pubs. Jordy risks his own personal safety and removes known gang members himself. He does this so his customers are safe. Why should a business owner like Jordy have to do this on his own?
Enough excuses about legalities and such. More people will die if we don't pony up.

I just imagined three uniformed Mounties walking into a bar and saying to the group at the next table, "Papers, please". Could happen.

Thanks Lunar - I know which restaurant I won't be eating at in PG.

Residents AND businesses need to act to stop gang activity in PG.

No, not papers please - just enforce the law - it is illegal to be a member of a gang - and these members are a danger to the general public.

My right to be safe in a public place should supercede their right to be gang members carrying out gang activities in public places.

Do you really want to eat dinner next to someone carrying an illegal weapon - someone who is likely to use that weapon?

We think we know how to fix things but when will we learn what causes things to break.
Cheers

Good on charles.
Cheers

I know in my case and my circle of friends we don't frequent the place and make others aware of their apparent tolerance to being a known gang hang out. More people need to vote with their money and then places as this will pay attention.

I'd rather show papers and have a peaceful meal at least until we get rid of a few of these gun toting brats off the streets. But I'll never go back there either!

"it is illegal to be a member of a gang"

It is?? News to me!!!

If it were, then it would be simple, arrest the gang members.

Boy, people sure have some strange notions.

"Known to police", you would figure that is the operative words.

I think we need to do a bit more than slap them on the wrists. I'm all for a new Gaol. Build it especially for gang members, let them rot for twenty years in there with no chance for parole. Treat them like the animals that they are. There is no rehabilitation for these types of people. Keep them alive in the system, so that the systems self eradicates them with in the penetentary walls. Incarceration for twenty years seems like a good deterrent.

Take a piece of California's Gang Laws. 3 strike rule. I am tired of hearing these gang members with court sheets showing years of violations.
Is commiting a crime while inviolved with a gang of more than 5 memebers a conspiracy? Just lock em up already, for a hefty time.
Secondly, do we have any education for our school kids regarding consequences of joining a gang. Let our kids know its not all Puff Diddy out there.

Hey ya .... take California's gang laws ...... why didn't think of that.

Gang capital of the USA if not the world .... the origin of many gangs .... the place where the jails generate more gang members than you care to imagine ..... great model to adopt!!!!!

Welcome to the police state. There is absolutly privacy issues with the bar watch program. Just as there are legal issues with impounding vehicles on the spot when no law is broken. I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling giving the police all this power.

Our Mayor....can't make a decision Dan ! Lets study it and set up a few committees and get the lawyers involved to make sure we play nice. In the meantime the gangs flourish ! Hope you are enjoying your one and only term as Mayor Dan.

If you are not a criminal you don't have to worry about the police unless they decide to taser you for mistaken identity.

Let's see. One restaurant refused to allow the police to check for gang members.
The police then stopped one gang member in the parking lot and confiscated a firearm.
Another restaurant refused entry.
The police then checked plate numbers found one, entered the restaurant and arrested a man on breach of his conditions.

What are these restaurant owners/managers thinking??? Do they want anther parking lot shooting?

Yes I think they should definitely be named.

Dan, what are you thinking? Do you perhaps dine at one of these places? How would you like to be ducking for cover sometime? Or worse. How would you feel if maybe it was your wife who got shot? Would you still pussy foot around the issue?

Seems to me that the police were doing a very effective job there. I have seen managers of establishments cooperating in a very proactive way with police just to PREVENT any trouble like this. Kudos to them!

Businesses lose a LOT of business after incidents like a stabbing or shooting. And P.G. makes the National news again for the wrong reasons.

The Barwatch Programme has REDUCED rowdiness and violence. To me, that is a good thing.

Mayor Dan Rogers is still contemplating the legal ramifications about enforcing the illegal hedges/fences. Give him time these are long hard decisions to make.