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Call For More Data and Action on Previous Recommendations

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:53 PM

Prince George, B.C. – With Linda Bush and Delores Young sitting in the audience, the B.C. Civil Liberties Association   was preaching to the converted as it told a Prince George audience  how self investigation by police, doesn’t work.
Linda is the mother of Ian Bush who was  shot to death by RCMP constable Paul Koester,  in the Houston detachment  in October of 2005. Delores Young is the mother of Kevin St. Arnaud who was shot to death by Constable Ryan Sheremetta  in a soccer field in Vanderhoof in December of 2004.
The report, authored by David MacAlister, an Associate Professor at SFU’s School of Criminology, examines some of the issues behind the fact that B.C. has more in custody deaths than the rest of Canada. 
 MacAlister says there was difficulty in gathering the data as the police forces across the country are not always willing to either share that information or have a data base that would   show the collection of such information.
The information gathered shows 267 people have  died in police custody between 1992 and 2007. MacAlister says that works out to 1 death every three weeks. The data also shows 91% were male.
While noting the alarming  number of deaths in B.C., MacAlister cautions against comparing jurisdictions. While the Ontario data would indicate much lower police custody deaths, the information from that province did not include all deaths in which police were involved, so MacAlister says it can be expected the numbers in Ontario would be higher than the 113 reported from ’92 to 2007.
The real issue is the practice of police investigating themselves. Now, other police agencies investigate police   “I still see this as a police investigating police approach and not the type of model we should see in B.C.”
In England and Wales, all in custody deaths are investigated by a civilian agency. Two recent reports into in custody deaths have called for a move to an independent investigative process. “We can learn from England’s independent complaints experience, “ says MacAlister “We don’t even have to go outside the country, in Ontario, the special investigations unit investigates all complaints against police. Although there have been some complaints about the SIU, I think there is a lot of good being done .”
He says there is no question, B.C. must move to an independent investigative service, and while the province talked about it a year ago, there is still no sign of it, what it should look like, the mandate, how investigators will be recruited, public consultation, budget for the agency, “all of those are issues people of British Columbia will probably have a say and they haven’t been asked, I think one day we will just wake up and an independent investigative unit will have been foisted upon us, and we should have a say.”
MacAlister also  recommends Crown Council from outside the jurisdiction be the ones to make a decision about the possibility of charges being laid because local Crown is in daily contact with local police agencies.

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"MacAlister also recommends Crown Council from outside the jurisdiction be the ones to make a decision about the possibility of charges being laid because local Crown is in daily contact with local police agencies."

Ah, Mr. MacAlister, the practice has been that for many yrs now.

Just get it done.
Move to a civilian agency and stop all the speculation and outright false information that floats around with every in-custody death.
It should have been done before now,but it does seem someone doesn't want to go that way.
Who is it?
Who is bucking this?
Is it the RCMP or is it the government?
Perhaps we could form a new agency and call them the "SS"!
independent investigative service

Secret Service?

Security Squad?
Gus, refrain.
Some good points were made today. Both David's were great!
How about these morons quit getting stoned or drunk and fighting arrest? In custody deaths won't happen to you if you are not in custody in the first place...
interceptor (if you weren't there yesterday that is) I encourage you to come to these events in the future when they are made available to us.

For everyone reading this article could you please be honest and let me know what it would take to get you out to an event such as this?

heidi all it would take to get people out to these events is some ADVERTISMENT....hello if poeple who care about such things knew they were happening they would come!! maybe put up a poster at the college and university.
I have. :) Maybe bigger and more colour to catch the eye? Gets quite costly though.
Thanks for input. I really do appreciate ideas. I'm running out of them.
Boudicca are you attending the college/university now taking these types of courses? If so would you mind emailing me if you don't mind sharing some more ideas?

A mass text message alert might work better for 2010/2011. ;)

If you do decide to email me could you type "BCCLA ad. ideas" in your subject line as it will go to my junk mail folder. Please and thank you!

heidi1555@hotmail.com

I would love to see a crowded room with lots of questions/ideas at the next one.
There should be independent civilian bodies in all such instances, not only for the sake of the victim's families and all civilians but also for law enforcment representatives.
The police officer involved in the death (responsible or not) took action that he thought at the time was proper. Any police body investigating, full of individuals with similar training and experience is going to arrive at the same conclusion. Therefore neither training or attitudes will change.
Civilians who continue to think "I didn't do anything wrong" and ignore instructions during a crisis will continue to be hurt or killed. As biased investigations continue and respect for officers is elliminated their instructions will continue to be ignored and more people will die.
For the time being, follow instructions or expect that whatever force is needed to make you follow those instructions will be used.
Dave
www.dmmcgowan.blogspot.com
In answer to your question heidi555,who knew this was even happening?
Not very many people I suspect.
And that is the problem.
I am sure turnouts would be much stronger if people were informed well in advance.
I am a confirmed news junkie, and I knew nothing of it.
Yes, thanks Andyfreeze. My hamster wheel is circling with maybe an email opt-in page.(Squeeze Page) Just need to get some tips and ok's from a few people.
I knew those network marketers would come in handy!

=)