If you cant handle the heat...

Right on Jonny! No way she's had half the challenges that you encounter in your day to day - all those comments to come up with - and all that typing!

She speaks very well in public.

We must all remember that the crime capital stats are based on years she was not here yet. Chambers was, however.

I have not got the faintest clue how well she would have been able to turn things around here over the next 5 years had she decided to take on that type of challenge instead of the opportunity that was presented to her or she actively sought out as part of her personal growth strategy within the security corporation.

One thing I know for sure, the next person put in to head this division needs to be someone committed to turn our situation around with the force size and budget we have. That person needs to make at least a 5 year commitment to this community.

BTW, the budget projections presented in the 2010-2014 provisional financial plans were 1.14% in 2011, 2.11% in 2012, 2.25% in 2013, and 2.18% in 2014. I think someone was dreaming in technicolour when that was presented. The increase in 2010 over 2009 was 10.53% .....

Actually she was able to handle the heat ..... like any sensible person interested in self preservation would do, she moved away from it .... ;-)

"If you can handle the heat..."

Really? She can't "handle the heat" of running a local detachment in what is, let's face it, a small and insignificant city in the grand scheme of things, so she instead takes on a role overseeing a NATIONAL program that is almost certain to be under constant scrutiny from the RCMP itself, the general public, first nations groups and even folks like the auditor general? Yeah, sure sounds like she can't "take the heat". If that is the case, me thinks she's barking up the wrong tree with her new assignment, LOL.

To me, this is just a classic case of someone with career ambitions who outgrew their current environment. She looks to be very ambitious and this position is obviously one that would be appealing to someone like her. Positions like these are not available locally, so people have to move to take them. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Gus makes some good points in the first story on this topic in regards to what benefits a local force would serve, however, even then, ambitious people will get to the point where they see the limitations for career growth in a city like PG. Highly ambitious people with lots of time left in their career life will quite often be drawn to larger centres because that's where the action is.

I don't think you can try and manage your organization to attract people that never want to leave. That can lead to filling your organization with people who are complacent and that can bring an entirely new set of challenges in regards to motivation, doing what is necessary to implement change, etc.

In the best case scenario, you would hope that your organization can retain the good people and not have them move on. The ability to retain them depends on many things that one can control, but external factors that cannot be controlled also play a role (are the jobs here, do they like the city, etc.).

I'm not sure why this is such a big news story to be perfectly honest. If Mrs. Butterworth-Carr wants to expand her career and she thinks this is a good way to do it, then congrats to her. The whole story and the angle some of the comments in the previous story are are taking, seems to get right back to that "woe is me" attitude some folks have in PG.

At the end of the day, they will find a replacement for her and that guy or gal will have the same challenges she did. They may do a better job, they may do a worse job. Such is life.

need a ruthless new superintendent to stop these lazy cops from eating donuts and coffe all day,this is are tax money!!!! lets make them get more traffic violators or criminals.its no wonder why we have the highest crime rate in the country,too many tim hortons per population is prince george b.c..this is my opinion !!

I agree completely that people are free to move to any job they like.

That is even truer these days when the loyalties both ways between employer and employee seem to be eroding at a fast pace, as probably are contract preferences between client and service provider even to the extent that contracts are made with foreign service providers to the detriment of national economies. All in the interest of so called economic effiency.

In fact, the system has become so "efficient" that families now HAVE to have two incomes and people HAVE to work full 37.5 to 40 hour work weeks or more rather than those 3 and 4 day work weeks that seemed to be on the horizon in the 1960s and 70s.

But that is another story, even though I see them all as some of the indicators of a general social systemic failure of true progress towards an improved lifestyle.

The issue I raised is that we are at the mercy of an organization whose prime interest is their organization, not the communities they serve. We are essentially dealing with a contractor who has a monopoly. In fact, it is worse, since there are politics at play as well.

Unlike those communities which have Municipal Police Forces in BC - there are 11 of them (Abbotsford, Delta, Central Saanich, Nelson, New Westminster, Oak Bay, Port Moody, Saanich, Vancouver, Victoria and West Vancouver) - we do not have a Police Board to which the RCMP is responsible. I have no clue how the local organization is accountable to the City, in the same fashion that municipal forces are accountable to the Boards. It seems to me that the accountability is less.

We have had an 11% increase in our police contract cost from 2009 to 2010. The protion of the services the City provides through its civilian forces has increased by 5% over the same period. The projected increases for the next 4 years are in the 1.2 to 2.3% range. Totally unrealistic based on past experience and a community with rising crime rates.

Our per capita cost for policing is in the range of $265 to $280/per citizen depending on which population figure is used (I used 71,000 to 75,000). I am unsure of how much of the fleet cost and costs such as building operations are included in that. City budget figures readily avaialable on the net are not clear enough to make that determination easily.

That cost is in the same range as the average cost per person of policing the 11 municipalities that have their own police forces. So, the notion that was put forward by "he spoke" that we cannot afford it is not quite accurate.
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BTW, I am taking the critique that I should not post links seriously. I could post all sorts of links to back up the "facts" I am citing ... but what the heck, everyone can get their own ... :-)

pgguru what a fatuous and unoriginal comment regarding cops and donuts and then to bitch about the crime rate in the same sentence. Simply ignorant.

thankyou officer junco

I thought she brought in a new way of policing, instead of the old fashion red neck cop. She actually, made the police a lot more accessible than what it was under a dictatorship.

On the other hand, the loss can be only construed as one less taxpayer in Prince George to pay interest on our $111 million dollar debt let alone the capital. Lucky her.

She is going to be replaced by someone who will get a similar salary .... and will bring a family of 3 children and other hangers on who will move here when they all realize how great it is to live in PG .... :-)

Hizzoner Danno will be glad to read your positive rebuttal. Carry on.

You said it Harbinger. She's definitely the lucky one. She also escapes the dreaded carbon tax of B.C.OH and that smell that wonderful smell of Prince George. Good luck in your new position Brenda.

Seems she is qualified for the Ottawa job. But how did she ever qualify for the Prince George job ? The results speak for themselves !......crime capital of Canada !

I think she was doing the best she could and I wish her well. I do not blame her for wanting to leave Prince George she knows a lot more than we do. We have become the crime capital of Canada and its not her fault, its our own we are binging it in, with all the amenitys we provide.