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City to Borrow Money for RCMP Building Construction

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Tuesday, April 19, 2011 04:00 AM

Prince George, B.C. - City Council for Prince George has given the first three readings to two bylaws which will allow it to go ahead and borrow  $25,138,000 dollars for the construction of the RCMP building.

The City already has loan authorization bylaws in place, but since that project has a high  price tag, it will borrow what it needs along the way rather than the whole $39  million at once.

Director of Public Safety and Civic facilities, Rob Whitwham, says the project  has already entered the tendering process . The demolition tender is out and will likely  close before the end of this month. ( this is for the demolition of the  former liquor store/supermarket/ bingo hall that is on the  site.)

It is expected the construction  could go to tender in mid May, and  a  tender package be back before Council for final approval before the end of June.


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"The demolition tender is out and will likely close before the end of this month.", will likely close? surely you, Rob Whitwham know when the tenders close. And being the Director of Public Safety and Civic facilities you should KNOW when tenders close.. or are you just a high paid know nothing?
looks like a mall!sheeezz kinda strange were the best looking designed building ina city to showcase is a cop shop !wonder if it will have the same fiascal problems like the olympic place did? ah yes please room with a view would be lovely thank you
Why does everything built with taxpayers money have to be elaborate?
my2bits come you should now if one is going to get ones name on a brass plaque attached to the building, it cannot be a regular office building where money saved could go into actual policing. How boring. The politicians will give themselves a raise to cover the tax rise. Just how do these people sleep at night?
Because when they process the criminals they want them to have an easy go of it. Nice court house so nice rcmp building.

Maybe they could borrow some money for the pot holes too.
whine whine whine.
Not whine, whine, whine. It is called "making observations". Looks to me like a quite posh place. Is there gonna be a water slide within? Kinda keep the kiddies busy while mom or dad are being questioned (interviewed) by the police?
We complain building are boring, than we complain it is too elaborate. Do you want a boring building like the they have now, or you want something that you are proud of, and will maintain it.

The cop shop that they are in now, is a dungeon for the workers. Isn't it be a resonable for at least 50% of the people working there gets daylight. I think it is just being a part of being a good employer to make it possible for people to have daylight.

Sure I think we could have done a lot better with a satelite shop in the Hart and one in College Heights. Turn around and plow money into the existing one. But, hey, I'm just a tax payer.



I hate all the money borrowing. I dont think the council or powers to be have any fiscal sense.

But, at one time or another we will have to build nice new buildings and we might as well eat it now
Speaking of borrowing, every single resident of PG should not worry about our debt. I didn't sign anything. I can sell my house one day (hopefully) and let the purchaser of it assume "my portion" of our municipal debt. Let us all be a bit more wise this coming November and not vote in any spendthrift rubber stamping dreamers who think PG has a trillion dollar line of credit. I hate our roads.
I'd make em fix the building they are in nothing more then they deserve!!
By the time they are finished we will be looking at $50 Million for the building. Most of it $40 Million at least will be borrowed over 20 years. So once you add in the interest on borrowing you are looking at somewhere in the area of $80 Million.

This is a huge expense to house some prisoners, 128 Police and 50 Staff. Very few people in this town have such grandiose office buildings. Mainly Banks, and Lawyers. A hell of a lot of people work in worse conditions than the people at the present police station.

In any event. Seems no one in this town has the ambition or willingness to take on City Hall to try and force them to stop this foolish spending.

Seems bitching and belly aching is the order of the day.

Get ready for the same BS on the PAC centre.
"A hell of a lot of people work in worse conditions than the people at the present police station."

Name one Palopau - and then report them to labour relations. Only police could be forced to work in a building with fecal matter running down the walls and mould growing in the corners.
Yes...whine whine whine.

You all had your chance to voice your opinion where it mattered. Either you did (and were greatly outnumbered) or you didn't (and failed miserably to voice your opinion). Thank heavens you failed too.

I for one have a greater understanding of the importance to have an upgraded, state-of-the-art, and functioning building for our community. Only good things will come of this. At least this will be a tangible benefit instead of ghost funding drifting off into nothingness never to be seen again.

Your apathetic ways will always come back to bite you in the backside. You probably won't vote either. If you don't vote don't bother complaining. The rest of us don't want to hear it.
New building ,new police force too go with it.Send this bunch of gooneybirds to watch for terrorists in Tuktoyucktook...
Great looking building.....who cares how much it costs......if you can't afford to own: Sell and Rent!
Firstly StreetWise. In the last 10 years or so there has apparently been only one request from the Police to make some repairs to this building. Other than that, nothing.

It was determined by the City in 1997 that they should build a new building, and I suspect from that moment on a decision was made to not make any major renovations, as it would be a waste of money. So the working conditions were self inflicted.

Dont for one minute try and convince me that if the conditions in this building were as bad as reported that the RCMP and the City would do nothing about it. Are you suggesting they are unaware of the rules and regulations of the labour board. Are they not aware of the health hazards that would apply to such conditions. Are you suggesting they are a bunch of idiots and would just continue to work regardless of the conditions.??

What people dont seem to understand is that this project has been around for 15 years, so even though they suggested that a new building was required in 1997 they did nothing about it for 15 years. They are now going to build one that is 50% more than they need, in an area that it shouldnt be in. Mainly because the previous Mayor decided to buy this particular piece of property for $2.75 Million dollars. The location sucks. We could have located it anywhere except, the site they chose.

Lets not try and defend the indefensable.
The City blew this whole project, and it will cost us in excess of $80 Million dollars.

Anyone who thinks this is not a hell of a pile of taxpayers dollars, obviously has no grip on reality.

This is just one of many reasons why this town has the worst streets in North America., possibly with the exception of Dogpatch.

You will never get good paved streets, as long as the City can find projects to suck up millions so that they can spread the largesse around, and have nothing left for infrastructure.

Have a nice day.

Part of what concerns me is that we are getting loans that will take 20 to 25 years to pay off but the city has only considered. Staffing increases for the next 10 years or 20 staff in the initial build.

Then there will have to be an expansion (at more cost to the taxpayer).

If you are going to get a loan for something at least make sure it will be useful until the loan is paid
"This is just one of many reasons why this town has the worst streets in North America"

Yes, because you've clearly been to every city in North America to make that determination, LOL!

For what it's worth, whenever I go to Fort St. John I'm amazed that their streets are actually worse than PG's. Just my opinion of course. Heck, a good portion of their town still has dirt roads, washboard and mud puddles. Gotta love that!
NMG. Maybe Fort St John is Canada's Dog Patch.

No matter how you cut it our streets are a disgrace, and will never be fixed under the present system. ie; Spend on Capital Projects, cut spending on infrastructure.

To bad we couldnt take all the cement off the NEVER USED AIRPORT EXPANSION RUNWAY, and use it on City streets.
Never used? Are you sure? I'll bet I could find a news story that contradicts that.
Holy!#*% is all the glass they're using bulletproof for that kind of money.I think a few councillors and the mayor should hang there heads in shame when they host people from outside of PG,for the condition of local roads.Anyone that can come up with something positive about the road conditions,should maybe have a psych evaluation done.As for the RCMP station,I have mixed feelings as to the timing and cost associated with it.The location is totally wrong.I think parking will be a problem,maybe not initially,but later down the line,as other things change in that area.Didn't they designate that route as a dangerous goods route.Brilliant,lets blow up all the people needed in an emergency!
"Firstly StreetWise-------------------"
What Palopu said, x 2.
Very concise and factual.
metalman.
"Holy!#*% is all the glass they're using bulletproof for that kind of money."

Well, it actually should be. Police stations used to be secure places for the police and short term stays for those who have been arrested. The general public should not be allowed in past the front desk. That was actually the idea of the original building design. It was carried off rather poorly though.

Here is an article and a picture of a recently built police station in the USA. $7million, for I do not know what size of building. But look very "pleasant" and looks secure.

http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/bexley/stories/2009/12/16/1217benew-police-station_ln.html

I will be interested in seeing the final building to see how easy it might be to ram a vehicle into it to gain entry for "terrorists".
http://www.caasco.com/community/worst-roads/top20-worst-roads.jsp

We could use something like this for BC.

Maybe we should explore making claims against the city. It will be our pocketbooks that the money will come from in the end, so maybe they really do not care.

http://www.caasco.com/community/worst-roads/basic-facts.jsp
It is a municipal building that is supposed to be maintained by the City of Prince George. If the police had to request repairs it show the lack of maintenance by the building owners – the city of PG. The City of PG decides what maintenance and renovations are required. It just so happens that none of those people that make those decisions work in that building – they are all at City Hall. So, how is it the people working in the RCMP building self inflicted the working conditions? Not a single person that works in that building gets any say on what happens for maintenance. How many times has City Hall been renovated in the last 20 years? Several.

Building are condemned based on what inspectors report – who do you think the inspectors work for? It certainly isn’t the RCMP. Think about what would happen if the building got condemned – the city would be without police officers until a replacement could be found! One day and this city would be in ruins.

I absolutely agree that this is should have been built 15 years ago. Why wasn’t it – because people just like you were bitching it was too expensive and the council of the day decided to drag their feet as long as possible and leave it for the next council to deal with. Now it’s gotten to the point where it can’t be put off any more.

I have been following this for a long time. I used to work in the current building and I had to quit because it was making me sick. I went from being sick on a daily basis to not being sick for a single day in the last 2 years since I quit.

The first building was not the best building, it was the cheapest – because that is what council of the day decided was top priority. If the original building was planned and built properly we could upgrade it and save a lot of money. BUT THEY DIDN’T. They built a cheap, crappy concrete bunker that is falling apart. And you may be all for building ugly bunkers that need to be replaced every 20 years – I am not.

I am disappointed in you metalman. You usually seem quite logical but this time you missed the boat.

As for the location - I think it is the ideal location and based on all of the Smart Growth, Dowtown improvement, and Neighborhood meetings for Downtown and the Crescents meeting I have attended - the majority of people agree with me.
Thank you Gus for the link to the police station new building in the states. It looks like a very good design, and with a price tag of 7.2 million. Makes a lot more sense than the one Prince george is building for $40 million plus, plus and plus.
Whine, whine, whine zyblxteu ! That Brazil village is still looking for their idiot !
Thanks gus for the link.So what gives with the cost of ours?We have jail cells in ours and they don't?We have a parking garage and they don't?I think people forget that for a city this size,we will have a $40-$50 million dollar police station.A North District police station on 5th ave. and Fort Knox on 22nd ave.Seems a tad excessive to me.I think we could re-design the new one,for a slightly better price!After all we had 15 years to come up with a reasonable design!
Maybe a big Attco trailer jakeadoo ? Whine, whine,whine.