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College Heights Residents Upset With Proposed New Neighbourhood

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 09:10 PM


L&M Engineering hosts an information session in Gladstone gym

Approximately 150 residents living in College Heights gathered in the gym of the former Gladstone Elementary this evening for a public information session hosted by L&M Engineering on a proposed development plan for the Fraser River bench land areas.

The proposed "Fraser River Bench Lands Neighbourhood Plan" covers the 107-hectares of privately-owned land between the west bank of the Fraser River and Lower College Heights.  The development calls for a subdivision that could eventually be home to 2300 residents with 783 homes -- 37-hectares is set to remain parks, trails and greenspace.

L&M planner Heather Oland spent 20-minutes outlining the plan to concerned area residents, but told the crowd there would be no "traditional" question-and-answer session afterwards.  Instead, those gathered were directed to booths set up around the perimeter of the gym to ask their questions.
The format of the meeting did not sit well with John (pictured at left), who would not provide his last name.  "I feel this meeting is a bit of a sham, this is not public participation."

He called on L&M Engineering Principal Dave McWalter to come to the front of the gym and publicly answer questions, but Mr. McWalter remained at a back booth, fielding queries.

"I don't know what the next step is, I suspect we have to get in touch with our City Councillors and really examine this, is this what College Heights needs?  Do we need 2300 people? Do we need more traffic on Cowart Road?  Do we want our property values to go down?"  asked John.

Ralph Allen says he, too, has major concerns.  Allen says while he is not opposed to development and feels the city does have a need for more housing, he's opposed to this particular plan.  He says noise from the industrial site across the river will impact the neighbourhood and traffic is his other concern.  "Which a number of people here have talked about, is the problem with traffic down Cowart Road, which is not even vaguely designed for the amount of traffic it's getting now and they're proposing another 800 or more vehicles are going to merge onto Highway 16 at 8 o'clock in the morning?"
L&M was encouraging those in attendance to take time to fill out a survey on the proposed plan.  Heidi Sherman says she will "absolutely" be filling it out with her thoughts on the development.  She was not impressed with the format either,  "I understood that there would be speakers available to discuss problems and concerns and positive things -- I can't get to the speakers, I can't hear them, I'm 10-feet away at best.  By the time I muscle my way in to a speaker at one of these booths, my question's probably been asked three times, if not more. "

"So I don't find that an efficient format," says Sherman, "I haven't learned anything yet."

Bill Harrington has lived in College Heights for the past 32 years and says, while he realizes the land is owned privately, it has felt like it belongs to the community.  "It's just a beautiful place, I always see wildlife down there.  I've seen moose and deer and coyotes and bears, and it's just an incredible place to be able to have access to -- it's natural -- I question why they would want to allow building in that area."

In addition to losing the greenspace, Ken Child says he's concerned about the impact on air quality.  "In that bench area, we are going to have winter inversions, we're going to have industrial pollutants, we're going to have the particulate matter from woodburning stoves," says Child, "With that inversion, we're going to have much poorer air quality, which is a major health issue."

City Councillors Don Zurowski (to the left), Brian Skakun and Debora Munoz were on-hand for the presentation, and Councillor Sherry Sethen came in afterwards.  All were surrounded by residents.

"There are many concerns," says Zurowski, "I think in many cases, there's open minds, but it's a neighbourhood and people are very protective of their own backyards."

The draft plan is available on the City's website, surveys can also be obtained from the City and once the public input is compiled, L&M plans to work on its third draft of the Neighbourhood Plan and then go to City Council for approval.  
 
Zurowski says, "Basically, this project is about a neighbourhood plan considering what the land could be used for for a long time and incrementally applying for re-zoning, so again, this will come before Council in the regular process, to include a public hearing, so there will be lots of time for neighbourhood input."

Also in attendance were a couple of local real estate agents.  Aaron Switzer says he understands the why some of those in the neigbhourhood are angry and upset, but says, "I encourage the growth, we're not going to stop the growth in Prince George and we're on a good route now."  Switzer believes the strength in the local real estate market will be sustained, "Our industry has changed here dramatically, I believe that everything's going to keep going strong here for quite some time."



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That's it, let's keep building the "donut" so the hole in the centre will get larger.

Maybe now would be a good time to start constraining the development at the edges of the city and insist on infill development.

Imagine if "2300 residents with 783 homes" were built downtown or in the downtown area? Sure they would be condos and not single dwellings, but think of the population density and the difference that could make to our downtown and our city.

Shawn Petriw
Shawn, I realize what you are talking about, but the greastest difference that providing opportunities for people to live downtown would make is to increase the cases of those having breathing problems and having to use the emergency services at the hospital. First things first.

As far as the benchlands go, at one time I understood it was being considered for a golf course. Whethet that would have been a better use for it, who knows.

As far as teh tree concerns go, from the city map it looks like the trees on top of the ridge, which are really the more important ones and I would suspect would normally have stayed, are 70% to 100% pine beetle infested and will be cut down.

There are fewer pine in on the bench, but they have little affect when it comes to direct noise from across the river since they do not block the path. There is about a 30 metre elevtion difference, which is about the height of a tree I would think. But those who actually walk the area would be better providers of that information than me.

With the size of subdivision proposed, added to existing Cowart Rd traffic, I would think that the road would have to be improved, including the intersection at the highway which could probably use an additional lane for those coming from CH going hwy 16 north.

When it comes to infill, I would consider this as such for suburban development. It is within a 5 km radius of City Hall, and one of the few suburban areas left which is that close. It is scheduled as phase 2 of the OCP and identified as residential use in the OCP. Being close to the river, albeit across from industry, it could potentially be a nice place to live. River walks, mild climate, maybe even protected from winds a bit.

The one thing I do not know is waht happens in an inversion in that area and I would be concerned about that. So, time to clean up the BCR which consitently has the highest PM count.

So, maybe Sahwn is right. Living downtown could be better after all ... :-)

But then I would want a perfoming Arts centre there so I could get rid of the TV. ;-)
Owl:"But then I would want a perfoming Arts centre there so I could get rid of the TV. ;-)"

Of course, you are saying this tongue-in-cheek since it is either the Arts Centre or repairing a portion of our potholed, cracked and worn-out streets!

It is glamour vs. common sense!

I'm afraid I'm getting a sinking feeling already!
The fools in the pictures need to realize that the "not in my backyard" mentality is getting a little old. 15th and Ospika, no one wanted the T-Ho's to go there. Does it seem so terrible a few years later? It is time to wake up and smell your armpits people. The atitudes stink.

later............
I must confess, the streets are now so bad that I agree that any money spent on a performing arts centre or any city building for that matter, should take second place. And, yeas, I agree patch jobs are useless. Last year they did some part streets and the differnce is light night and day now. No potholes in the new sections, and hundreds of them in the old section.

The thing I am afraid of is that they will patch them, then everything works fine for the summer and fall, until we get the so called winter again and we got potholes from January onward till May 2007. Then the complaining starts all over again.

BTW, once we get teh roads fixed, I think I have found the solution to a performing arts building suitable for this community.

Built of wood, 480 seats (I do not happen to believe an 800+ seat building is required for this community - stage size, sight lines, and acoustics are more important) and coupled with a sports hall of fame. Something for everyone. Price tag, 12.4 million.

Built in Parry Sound, Ontario, the famous wood capital of Canada ... ;-)

http://www.cwc.ca/publications/case_studies/Outstanding_Wood_Buildings/charles_stockey.php