NO The reason I do not. Is these LOW LIFES WILL BE OUT ON BAIL I BET IN A WEEK. WHEN THEY SHOULD BE IN THE GROUND WITH A BULLET IN THEM AND THEIR FAMILY HOME BULLDOZED DOWN... REMEMBER THIS IS TREASON...AND WE HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY FOR TREASON. NOT BAIL

Now that Canada is a "YES MAN" country to the USA I think that we are in for a lot more of this terrorist stuff. We should have stayed a peace keepers but now we are Bush's patsies I am almost ashamed of my country

Don I think we need to bulldoze your house for legitimizing house bulldozing. Canada is not Israel.

Yes they committed treason if the accusations prove to be true. If true then yes they should be put in a hole in the ground 50 feet deep with no room to stretch out where they should spend the rest of their lives never again seeing sunlight. Why let them off easy with a bullet in the head? That would just encourage more to do the same. That said if you want to give them a bullet to take with them underground, than I see nothing wrong with that. Maybe then they can look at it and be tormented by it.

Obviously any country that stands for its values will have enemies with opposing values. Its not something we should fear, but rather stand on guard against. Comments like Don's legitimize the terrorists (both overt and covert) who attack our way of life (Please don't remove Don's comments so others can see the fault in his logic).

Hysteria is our real enemy, and as long as we can reason our response we can limit the collateral damage to our own liberties. If we can keep that in mind than no terrorist effort will ever succeed in their goals for Canada.

IMO part of the problem for Canada is our emphasis on multiculturalism that serves as a base for those who reject the values of our country, breeding resentment out of false entitlement from displaced people who in name only become Canadian citizens.

IMO the Israeli apartheid policy and the policy of Israeli nuclear blackmail on its Arab neighbours backed by Canada with our only Free Trade agreement outside of the Americas tieing Canada to the hatred of the Middle East as enablers of the oppression that is felt in that part of the world. We should not be enabling and endorsing repression as hypocrites, but rather standing up proud for our values, based on reason, and applied equally to both sides of the Middle East argument.

As much as I dislike the CUPE for some of their agenda's we should all be proud of the BC and Ontario CUPE for their policy against Israeli apartheid and nuclear blackmail. It tells me that the rank and file Canadian from Canada’s largest union recognizes our country is committing a wrong that makes us all vulnerable, and yet our government is influenced by a sizable media and corporate interest that is majority foreign controlled, and is not listening to the voice and values of Canadians. Israel Aspers Canwest Global is a prime example with their fake news story a couple of weeks ago criticizing Iranian plans to issue arm bands to Jews and Christians, which Harper keyed in on in tune, only to later find out it was all a hypothetical 'what if' passed off as reality on the front pages of a national newspaper with a foreign agenda designed to influence Canadian perceptions as well as Canadian foreign policy.

For me the fear is not of the terrorists doing us harm as a nation, but rather the fear of what our foreign controlled media empires are doing to our value systems and Canadian perceptions that enable our own foreign policy.

God Help Canada.

I heard the Americans claiming that Canada is a safe haven for terrorists and our immigration laws are weak. It should be pointed out to those individuals that we actually caught the terrorists before they acted which is a better record than theirs and that it is the American practice of invading other countries and imposing their will upon others that has caused this increase in terrorist activities. It is time for the Americans to stand up and take the responsibility for creating the global tensions which we all must defend against. We are guilty of backing the Bush corporate, oil greed and for this we also get what our politicians reap. Time to wake up and get back to what being a human being was meant to be and to stop worshiping the mighty dollar. Gos ssaid to worship no god before him and here we are putting money ahead of human lives.Shame, Shame, Shame!!!

Sorry should be God said to worship no god before him...

KB I disagree with you. Nobody is a terrorist just for the sake of terrorism. Everyone either has an agenda or is buying into someone else’s agenda. Currently Canada has bought into Israel’s agenda and as such we are attracting those who oppose that agenda. If we had a clear Canadian agenda in that part of the world we could stand on our own merits and remove ourselves from confusion with the agenda of other political forces.

I think it is dangerous to assume people use terrorism for the sake of terrorism, because that is the precursor to saying we are ignorant of the issues, and wish to remain ignorant until such time as they again raise the stakes to shake us out of our own ignorance.

I hated the dictator Chrétien with a passion, but I will give him credit where it is due for not taking Canada into GW's war in Iraq based on now proven lies as the evidence for going to war. I was a huge supporter of Harper when he ran the NCC, but I must say he is looking more and more like every other politician to me lately with his appointment of unelected senators, and the mad rush to appease the Bush administration in Washington.

I honestly believe the Bush administration will be impeached after this November election if he does not start a war with Iran first to become the war president again. I also believe the Bush administration is not working for the American people, but rather for corporate and globablist empire interests that are guilty of feeding information to the terrorist master mind OBL and enabling their attack on 9/11. Why anyone would be in a rush to be associated with that is beyond my comprehension.

I like what Robert F. Kennedy Jr has to say about the Bush regime. This should be a warning to all of us who cherish our democracy and freedom because we are all under the shared threat.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060106R.shtml

They will never find Bin Laden as long as Bush is president. "THEY ARE BUSINESS PARTNERS" for crying out loud.

You people should all give your heads a shake. These so-called terrorists were only arrested in the last few days, no charges have yet been laid, and some of you already have them convicted and want to line them up before a firing squad. This is exactly the kind of things that the so-called terrorist in other countries do. Are we the same as them, or are we willing to wait until we get all the information before we make quick, and sometimes (stupid) statements that are not backed by any facts.

Canada's track record on getting anything right in the last few years is not very good, so we better just sit back and wait awhile until we see where the bear """" in the buckwheat.

I can understand the knee jerk reactions of some people who want to treat those people arrested the same way is is assumed they wanted to treat others by exploding a bomb somewhere in Canada. To do so, however, would be to make people like that the winners.

How so? To become the same as them means to change Canada to their way of thinking. I am adamantly opposed to that. Despite its faults, Canada is a beacon. It stands out among the nation of the world as a tolerant, accepting society truly committed to free speach and democracy. Doing to them what they are purported to want to do to others would alter that irrevocably.

Despite the difficulties I suggest that these eople should be treated in accord with Canadian law, and if found guilty sentenced according to Canadian standards. To do otherwise is to let them win.

The most intriguing question to me is why native born Canadians would embrace that kind of violence. Their country of birth raises another point, too. If found guilty, they will not be muslim terrorists but rather Canadian terrorists, like it or not.

The point about Bush serving a "corporate and globablist empire" is bang on!!! I believe that Bush and other polital/religious leaders are part of a secret power society. I'd say more about that but I don't want to come off as a conspiracy theorist at this point. The Americans, and many Canadians, are blindly subject to the worst and most obvious propaganda the world has ever seen. It's like a "can't see the forest for the tree's" type of issue. Western, Bush controlled media manages all information. CNN and other's put the biggest f---ing spin on the Middle East and we sit back and take it all in as truth and accuracy. Jimmy Hoffa???? What kind of lame effort is that to take the American masses' minds off the war. We'll, I'm here to tell you that I work for the Government and when I read the paper about my department it's full of half truths and speculation. I can't even imagine the crap that gets filtered out about by the Yankee's and there "Ya-hoo" attitude about bombing Iraq, and inevitably Iran. The rest of the world knows that we are a consumption based society, just like our average colesterol levels we're eventually going to keel over and die of the gluttony
and over consumption of our society. I believe that Bush, Blaire, Harper, and others are going to take over the oil rich regions of the world and fatten up from oil sales all before the switch to alternative energy transportation comes into effect. Anyway, this was about the terrorists, right? If they're found guilty, I think we need to interview them on a uncensored radio/tv program and ask them why they want to blow up stuff in N. America/UK. Then, we as a Nation should listen carefully to their position. The Isreal thing is something that I have to give some more thought to. They're a real anomaly to me. Their political and military power doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Why does the Western world share a bed with them? Thoughts?

The original question:
With the knowledge of the arrest of 17 alleged terrorists, do you feel safe?

Yes. Everybody did their job. It's when people aren't doing their jobs properly that I don't feel safe.

What I find unsettling, however, is the panic and hysteria, dosed heavily with fanaticism, that arises in people upon discovering this news. From reading the posts, I'd wager that english-speaking people could be successful as terrorists too. How about we let the system deal with them and get on with life, instead of getting all worked up into a lather about things we don't have influence over anyhow. It's this snowball of fearmongering that always gives things an immortal life. Remember what Yoda said: "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to bloodshed." It doesn't get any easier to understand than that. It doesn't matter why you fear, or if it is legitimate or unfounded. It only matters that you do fear, because that is always the starting point. If you don't fear, the rest can't happen.

kb:
You ask that we do not make this a "religious issue" but, what exactly is your understanding as to the goals of the terrorists themselves? Can you not see that it is very much a God thing (or Allah if you will) the whole terrorist movement is based upon the fact that the golden rule has shifted from "treat others as you would have them treat you" to the new golden rule paradigm of he who has the gold makes the rules. Unfortunately, in our society only the most extreme makes an impression and these disenfranchised individuals embrace this ideology to the extreme. Do you think that anyone really has time to consider why people are protesting anything with signs and small events of civil disobedience? Unlikely, in our all consumming drive to have enough money to be a "good consummer" or even afford to have a family in this ridiculous race to the bottom society that is being inflicted upon us by corporate greed? Therefore, the terrorists resort to these dispicable acts to at least get through the brainwashed haze of the average global citizen. Once again this is a symptom of a sick society that has greed and selfdestruction at its core. This is what I fear more so than the random acts of those who wish to inflict panic to further their cause.

Funny.
In the USA they have enough freedoms that bombing actually happen.
In Canada the population is very closely scrutinized as the CUPE folks look for more taxes. The discovery of the "terrorists" was probably incidental.
I doubt the "terrorists" should really worry about any jail time, that punishment is reserved for real offenders, like accountants that cook books or tax dodgers. Unless the "terrorists" are tax dodgers!!! Yikes!!!

kb: >"Under Chretien and Martin, we were definitely a "Yes-Man" to Dubya. With Harper in place, I think we'll start to see much less of that. Hopefully the rest of the world will see it, too."<

That statement is like saying that the Earth is flat. The exact opposite is true, in fact.

No, I don't feel safer now that those plotters have been arrested.

Whether it is communism or terrorism we are always better off to fight those battles in other lands rather than ours. A lot of Canadians have no understanding that Freedom is not free and a country has to be military strong to keep what we are all use to. Unfortunately history has always proven that weakness in military or weakness in government will bring on those undesirables to tempt actions against us.
As for those terrorist suspects in Ontario, let’s wait for the convections or not, before we even start on the rhetoric.

"Whether it is communism or terrorism we are always better off to fight those battles in other lands rather than ours."

Hitler and Stalin did that, and Mussolini and others.

International law prohibits the use of pre-emptive war against other nations as illegal, criminal and subject to war crimes
prosecution.

Let us abide by those rules, lest some other country perceives us as a threat and invades us to convert us to its perception of what we should be, by shock and awe and indiscriminate bombing.

When you talk about Militarily Strong you should exclude Canada as we have a very small Military and we could not function outside of Canada without the help of the Americans, British, or some other Country to assist us. We have to lease planes from the Russians just to transport some of our equipment. With this so called large force in Afganistan two or three thousand soldiers, we do not have the ability to defend our own borders and could be defeated with very little or no problem. We have been riding on the coat tails of the Americans for decades and anyone who thinks we could mount a Military Campaign without American Support is living in a dream world. Canadian Soldiers who are wounded in Afganistan are taken out by Americans to an American Hospital in Germany and at some point returned to Canada. (Probably on an American Airline)

Paul Martin made the deal with the Americans to have Canadian Troops in Afganistan, and you can rest assured that he was very friendly with the Americans behind the scenes. For political reasons he gave the impression he wasnt. At this point in time we are tied ankle and neck the the Americans .

We got into this situation by taking the line of least resistance over the last 50 years and because their is no such thing as a **free ride** the chickens are coming home to roost and we will now have to pay the piper.

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/foreign_policy/nato/nato_operations-en.asp

Canada has obligations under NATO and the terms of the ISAF.

Originally Afghanistan was supposed to be a peace keeping and re-construction effort after which a democratically elected government would take over.

The Taliban are back and Afghanistan is still on the ropes. The only relatively "safe" area is in and around Kabul.

The attack on Iraq was not a NATO mission.

Don, Don, Don,

We do not have the death penalty in this country. Oh yes, the Shift key is a mere 3/16ths of an inch away from the Caps Lock key.

1/32 of a inch, Use a measure Big B or are you not smart enough to measure. So far THERE are 21 people that have posted on this site that SEEM TO HATE THE USA enough to join the 17 Fools.

You must be an American.

NO.. My family came to Canada 1680. 326 years ago.

Don,
I seem to be smart enough into finding a way into getting you to understand what the Caps Lock and Shift keys are on a keyboard, so you figure it out for yourself.

Don. Dont confuse the American people with the American Government. I dont have any problems with most Americans, however I have big Problems with their President, Government, and Foreign Policy.

It now seems that the American Government and the CIA is financing the Warlords in Somalia against the Muslims. Apparently they are giving them arms, and approx $100,000.00 per month.

If anyone is interested these are the same Warlords that shot up the American Helicopters and killed American soldiers in Mogadishu not so long ago. Figure that one out.

"A lengthy investigation by RCMP and C.S.I.S."

One would expect that the people arrested are highly likely to be involved in activities that are illegal. Now if we can get them to court to charge them without some high priced lawyer trying to make a reputation getting in the way, maybe justice would be carried out.

I am truly more fearful of the problems with our legal system to deal with the bad guys than the threat of terrorists.

I am more fearful of walking around our local community and being attacked, robbed or my property being vandalized than a concern for terrorist activity.

Let's focus on the issues, fears, and problems in our local communities first. Maybe as each of us clean up our own back yards, there will be less terrorist activities. Chester

If you watch this situation closely for the next weeks or months and take off your blinders, you will see that is nothing more than a dog and pony show.

I have to agree with Chester, in that we have more pressing issues to concern ourselves with. Most terrorist groups probably can't even spell Prince George, let alone point it out on a map. Our time is better invested tackling real issues, like the disparity between different socio-economic groups in the community, and ensuring that everyone has basic needs met regardless of their intellectual capacity, skill level, or social group. Anybody in Prince George that lays in bed at night fretting about terrorists needs to purchase a pair of bifocals and take another look around. (or alternatively, increase their medication) There is too much money changing hands in this town for so many to be going without. The greed among people these days is relentless and unabashed, and if that doesn't concern you at least as much as terrorists in Toronto, then you just can't call yourself much of a person. Your title would be more like: ICGAF. Besides, everybody's a terrorist these days. Everybody tries to leverage some type of fear or threat against people to get them to do what is desired of them. It's an old trick and we live with this every day. The key point is, if people stop responding to these tactics, they will cease to be a tool for the oppressive among us that think you can attract bees with vinegar.