I smell a turf war, so much for my new garage floor?

I sure hope they eventually "cement" a new contract. And it also should be very concrete one, too!

Perfect, just perfect. We finally get a glimmer of hope for our community and rumours of stike begin to hit the headlines.

You can't make commitments to your customers if you can't rely on your labour force.

If it isn't the Government, the Natives, the Environmentalists or the Economy, then in BC, we can count on our Labour force to threaten our long awaited recovery.

It gives me a gut ache. Unions have become more of a destructive force in our lives than a positive one. That is my own personal opinion after personal experience with them for over 20 years as a union employee. Chester

Yeah, how dare those unionized workers! They want what's best for themselves! For shame! Don't they know that the only people who should be reaping the benefits of a good economy are the people who own businesses? Greed is bad unless, of course, you are the one with all the money.

Butthead...the union boys get their share. I want my concrete, the price hasn't gone up, but now it is going to. So who is the greedy one? The union thugs is the only ones I see getting greedy.

And if it wasn't for unions...we'd all be making 3.00 an hour....And that would make the company's happy and you contractors.
Why haven't they had a contract since 2005...now if they had a contract in 2001, that means no raise since then. Nobody can tell me the prices haven't gone up since 2001....Companies keep making bigger profits, and when the worker wants a piece you all call them names...Get a grip fellows...Go back in history before the unions... and see how the sweat shops worked....The way things are going...between the company's and our governments...there will be no middle class...just the rich and the poor....

Belfast Telegraph Home > News > Features

Return to Kandahar: The Taliban threat
Nelofer Pazira, the journalist who starred in the film 'Kandahar', has gone back to the southern Afghan city for the first time in four years. There she found residents living in fear as Islamic insurgents extend their deadly reach still deeper into the country
21 August 2006

Fear permeates Kandahar. Eyes watch every passer-by, every car. Everyone is suspect. People shrink away from me when I ask to interview them. They run when they see a camera. The few brave souls who agree to talk do so either anonymously or because they are desperate.

There is no war, no shooting, no rockets. At least not yet, although the Taliban wave is reconquering Afghanistan, and fighting is spreading through Kandahar province.

Only a few months ago, the city of Kandahar was on the road to prosperity. Newly-paved streets with proper signs - one even named after Queen Soraya, wife of the 1920s reformer King Amanullah Khan - a park with a playground for children and several smart guesthouses were part of the new image. Near the Kandahar market, the foundations of many new modern buildings and houses had been laid.

Mohammad Hikmat and his younger brother bought land here - £27,000 for 400 sq m - to build a home. Over the past five years they made good money working with foreign reporters and aid agencies. But six months ago it all came to an end. The Taliban were coming back. All construction stopped. Fear spread like a fire. Then came a series of suicide attacks and printed decrees, often hung on the walls of local mosques, ordering the people to stop supporting the government.

Mr Hikmat decided to shelve his dream of owning a house and took his family to safety, across the Afghan-Pakistan border to Quetta. The construction company where he worked as an engineer fired most of its staff.

Mr Hikmat destroyed the press cards and letters of recommendation he and his brother had collected from journalists. His brother, who worked as a cameraman, erased all footage from his tapes, all film of the city, interviews and pictures of American troops, for fear of punishment by the Taliban. An Indian company that built the road between Kandahar and Spinboldak fled when news spread that the Pakistani army was helping the Taliban to reach Kandahar. Most foreigners left.

"The Americans abandoned Afghanistan," says Mr Hikmat. "When they were around, people were making money. The Taliban had run away but they were not defeated and the Americans knew that too. Yet the US decreased the number of its troops."

Then it was announced Nato would replace the US forces, a decision which encouraged the Taliban. People in Kandahar talk about a power vacuum of which the Taliban took full advantage. They had five years to organise and returned in force.

"Now the Taliban are everywhere," says Alia, a nurse in Kandahar's Polyclinic Hospital. She returned from Pakistan four years ago in the hope of living and working in Kandahar and made her home in the Khoshal Mena neighbourhood, a short distance from the city centre.

"There was a doctor called Aziz in this building" she says. "The Taliban hung a leaflet on his door, telling him if he didn't stop working for the government and didn't take his children out of school, he would be killed." He and his family escaped overnight.

Now Alia says she is scared for her own family's life. She has taken down the sign on her door which carried her name and occupation. "My children are also in school and I'm worried that I may face a similar threat," she says. Najeeba has her own mocking reaction. "At least they give you a warning," she remarks, although this might be a compliment by Afghan standards.

But Alia has another reason to worry. In recent months she engaged her 16-year-old daughter to a young Afghan who works for the Western military forces. He paid the family a bride price of about £7,000. But now Alia is fearful that her daughter and her new family will also become a Taliban target. For the Taliban control most of Helmand province, where some 4,000 British troops are stationed.

In the Panjwai district of Kandahar province, the Taliban have even been using loudspeakers, taunting Canadian troops to attack them. In the past week, Canadian soldiers travelled to Panjwai but can only hold the city centre.

In Panjwai, 30km west of Kandahar, where fighting began two weeks ago, 71 Taliban fighters died during the weekend in running battles with Nato and Afghan forces after an attack on government headquarters, according to officials.

Maiwand, the site of a great British military defeat during the Second Afghan War in 1778-1880, is now the seat of resistance to the government, and Nato.

A Maiwand resident who is hiding in Kandahar tells me he was threatened by the Taliban. He works in one of Kandahar's hospitals. "I can't go home because I know the Taliban will kill me," he says. "From our entire village there are only two educated people. It's not hard for the Taliban to find us there.

"They have continued to issue decrees announcing that the killing of all those working with the current government or any of the foreign agencies - especially the military - is an "Islamic duty". In neighbouring Helmand province, a leaflet pinned to the wall of a mosque says the Taliban will give $1,000 (£680) to anyone who brings them the head of a government worker or a foreigner.

Where is all this power and money coming from? A member of a religious group, Wakil Sahib, accuses neigbouring Pakistan. "They don't want Afghanistan to be free and economically independent," he says. "They want to keep Afghanistan as their market. They want us to continue to go to their doctors, buy their medicine, use their products. To serve their own interests, the Pakistani intelligence service funds the Taliban."

Saifullah, who is too frightened to identify his job, says everyone in Kandahar knows who created and supported the Taliban. "Pakistan, with the help of the US, originally created them -- and to this day they are providing them with weapons and money," he says.

Saifullah is one of those who suspect that the Americans directly help the Taliban. "They could control the Pakistani border and stop the Taliban crossing. So why don't they?" he asks.

The educated classes in Kandahar also tend to blame the United States. "The Americans realised that Afghanistan held no economic benefit for them so they decided to ignore the country despite all their promises," says Rafi, an unemployed engineer. "After the US, the responsibility lies on our own government, which has also failed.

"But I wonder if the war in Afghanistan is less about the Taliban and Pakistan, and more about the rivalry between America and Europe. Afghanistan has become a victim once again, just like it was during the Cold War."

But there is another reality which also helps the Taliban. When the Americans arrived in Kandahar, they also brought money, rebuilding projects, jobs and the hope of stability. Power was restored and the city had electricity, especially during the summer, when temperatures reach 55C. But the Americans also left the drug mafia and warlords intact. The former Kandahar governor, General Gulagha Shirzai, and the President's brother, Wali Karzai, who now heads the Provincial Council, have been accused of drug trafficking. They, and others like them, were America's allies.

Under the American administration, "warlordism" and poppy cultivation soared. Kandahar owed its new wealth in part to drug money. But with the shift from US to Nato forces, there came a "War on drugs" and Nato launched a relentless campaign to stop poppy cultivation. Using Afghan National Police and Afghan National Army, the Canadians and the British started to destroy the poppy fields, a policy which faced opposition from both the traffickers and the farmers. The first casualty was the power supply.

"When Nato took over, the electricity disappeared," says Ahmedallah. The Americans had apparently donated 14 powerful generators to the city, seven of them operational at any one time. But the Kandaharis are paying the price for the oil-operating machines, which provide the city with a few hours of electricity every other day. "We only had power for four days, if you counted all the hours together. And the bill for the month was $40," says Ahmedallah of his own home. An average government employee makes about $50 a month.

To continue the drug production, the traffickers as well as the farmers welcomed the Taliban. Poppy cultivation was allowed by the Taliban. "Farmers now let the Taliban stay in their homes," says Wali, who works part-time for the ROSHAN mobile phone company. "Wherever you find the Taliban, the Brits and Canadians can't go."

Two weeks ago, Wali was driving from Helmand to Kandahar when he saw a gun battle between the Taliban and Nato forces. He abandoned his car and ran to safety. A few days later he returned to find his car. The Taliban had burned it, he says, because they found papers from his work and his mobile phone inside. He'd paid $3,500 for the car and sold the burned wreck for less than $100. "If tomorrow the British and Canadians announced that the growing of poppies was allowed, the people wouldn't let the Taliban stay in the country," says Wali.

"It would certainly help if they also restore power," adds Ahmedallah. And if they established better control over the Pakistan-Afghan border, and paid the Afghan army better salaries, and used the old commanders who are now unemployed, and, above all, cleansed the current Afghan administration of corruption. The list goes on.

In Kandahar, they make a distinction between the old Pakistani-supported Taliban and the new forces of Gulbudin Hekmatyar. Hekmatyar was a well-paid CIA man during the Cold War, the much-feared leader of the Hizb-i-Islami (party of God) which brutalised the Kabul population before the Taliban. Some suspect that the CIA has called again on his services.

Of course, there are more conspiracy theories than facts. But the reality is that fear dominates every aspect of life here. "It would be easier to live under the full control of one or another government, be it the Taliban or a US-supported Afghan government," says Rafi. "But this is like living in purgatory."

If the Americans leave, Kandahar will fall in a week. That's what people in the city's bazaar say - and they are the ones who know the Taliban and al-Qa'ida.

In the crowded streets, where shops are filled with goods imported from Pakistan, Iran and China, where young boys sell large square blocks of ice and bottled water, foreigners are no longer welcome.

No Nato patrol can pass through here. "They are too scared to come to this area," says my guide Ahmedallah. So the Taliban don't attack the market because there are no foreigners - or perhaps, as the Kandaharis claim, because this place is their nest. Kandahar is lost.

Well said Longnecks! What the heck is that above me got to do with the local stike?

Sure Yamadoo, fill the pockets of the rich with the so called booming economy and screw the workers who help them make those big bucks. Sounds like Campbell and his buddies filling their pockets with our BC resourses being sold off to the States.

At least when we were making three bucks an hour we could afford gas. Now we make obscene wages and can't even buy gas because the government just takes the money. No wonder governments like the union thugs - the fools are the best thing that ever happened to Big Government!

Hey, if the rich are getting so rich, why don't you buy stock in those same companies? What's the matter the return on your investment not good enough for you, but good enough for the rich, eh?

Or better yet, start your own company and get rich. What's the matter, not that easy? Oh, it's way easier to just take it from the few that really had the balls to make it work. We all hate those people, right? Lets get the "Rich" blah blah - boo hoo.

Chad, if you point out the website with the long report about Kandahar I may decide to look it up myself, rather than have to scroll by the lengthy posting that you made above.

Not everybody is interested in the capers that Bush and Mini-Bush are engaged in overseas.

I am not.

Ben is very touchy about postings being borderline "actionable" and it is my opinion that the repeated posts about "Campbell and his buddies filling their pockets..." are defamatory and slanderous.

Unless the poster has proven evidence that some politician is filling his pocket (i.e. stealing, taking something that does not belong to him) in an illegal manner these postings are out of order.

In fact, if he has any such evidence he should go to the police with it and the police will examine it (they are obliged to by law) and lay the proper charges as they did with Glenn Clark and the evidence in the Casino allegations.

That would be more productive than the endless insinuations made on this thread without any proof backing them up.

Hey Longneck. go to Alberta and ask somebody....anybody, what unions have done for them. $3 an hour. sure.... Your knowledge of unionism appears to be nothing but drivel from the BC FED.
If I told John Brink that for say, only $20,000 per month I'd allow his employees to come to work, I would be arrested and charged with racketeering.
However, if I run a union, I can and do get away with it. Like the Teamsters, HEU etc. Plus, I'd get foremans rate while I'm golfing at Whistler, plus a cushier medical amd pension plan than the membership.

I found this on another site and it's quite appropriate...

"You know what they're saying when they pay you minimum wage...If I could pay you less I would, but it's against the law."

"You know what they're saying when they pay you minimum wage...If I could pay you less I would, but it's against the law."

If I even think like that about an employee, I fire them. I find it bad for business to keep someone around that is only worth minimum wage.

Good point Sled guy on the minimum wage thing. Problem is one employers worth perspective of an employee is not always the same as another.

I know a powder coating shop in town with some moron owners (used to be my partners) that got away with paying a sandblaster $3 an hour for a year (an let him live in a supply room) with the promise of $20 an hour when they could afford it. This went on for a year, and then he went to $5 dollars, and then a year later only $10, until I contacted the guy and talked some sense into him and got him a mill job.

It was completely rediculous when they charged $150 an hour for the service, more than enough to pay the going rate of $25 an hour for a sandblaster. Their motto is they are business owners and they make their money off the labour of their employees. Nice cars, new homes, golf trips all financed off the slave labour of whom ever they can abuse next. They kept the guy there because they convinced him he had to work off the cost of mistakes he made at work sometimes working for no pay so the company could save having to make an insurance claim.

Totally criminal IMO, it happened here in town recently, and is the kind of thing that losers will do if the law will allow them to do it. Actually they violated the law anyways, but at least if it is law an employee has some recourse if they have the courage to stand up for themselves.

Diplomat I posted it here because it is the most important issue of the day and we should not have our heads in the sand. If there was an appropriate place to post it I would.

IMO it is tied to Canada's reputation around the world and we may need that reputation and our smarts when this whole WW3 thing breaks out this fall.

Pay peanuts..you get monkeys. Cement workers strike forwarding all the way to Afghanistan? That was one heck of a stretch. Maybe the next time someone comments on drugs, I think I will comment on how hard it is to find coin tubes fer pennies at any dollar store. Now there is something to whine about!!!

We do have our heads in the sand. If we would be wide awake we wouldn't send some of our limited Armed Forces (who are designed to be effective peace keepers) to an area of the world where the mighty Soviet Union took a mighty licking and filled its graveyards in Russia up with tens of thousands of fallen soldiers.

And for what?

The survivors limped home and the sacrifice achieved precisely nothing.

The ones who give the orders don't do the bleeding and the dying. Perhaps they should be in the front line of each battle instead of sitting comfortably on Sussex Drive, Downing Street or the Whitehouse.

Do we make friends when we shoot dead 10 year old kids riding by on a motorbike?

Theirs is a tribal society where deaths of the innocent are customarily avenged by relatives and family clans rather then by the laying of charges at the local police station and by lawsuits for damages.

Oh, by the way: Under the heading [Views] you will find the menu choice [Letters to the Editor].

So, let's get back to Unions, Strikes and working conditions. Is the issue not enough income?

How much are they making working 18 hours a day? I've heard that's one problem. Another one I have heard about is that they do not receive overtime rates.

So, we have a labour relations board to go to for justice. We don't need to go on strike for our rights.

I suggest the workers limit the amount of work they will do in a day to what is reasonable. I suggest they contact labour relations and have the labour code enforced to pay overtime over the allowable hours per day or week as appropriate. I also suggest that the local Job Stewards approach management to request additional employees be hired to continue filling the needs of their customers. What's wrong with double shifts?

Let's get the the root of the real issues and find a solution, rather than screwing up our whole economy. Chester

Coin tubes for pennies?!>}

Coin tubes for pennies?!>}

Hey the rest of my congrats gets cut off. I put in < and the post ends? Anyway SS, good post, hee hee!