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City Moves to Set its Own Emission Limits

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Monday, December 18, 2006 09:20 PM

  

Map shows location of industry  along the Nechako River

The long awaited report on asphalt plants and neighbourhoods has been presented to Council. The 35 page document outlines the history of the conflict, and confirms what the residents have been saying for years, the neighbourhoods were there first.

The report, prepared by Environment Manager Mark Fercho, has two recommendations.  Council unanimously supported the first  recommendation.  It calls for the City to press the Ministry of the Environment to review and update the Asphalt Regulations. In particular it calls for improved encorcement provisions and a requirement for the plants to meet the higher emissions standard in the regulation in Prince George. 

Fercho says it was important  for the full issue to be documented, "The issue is a complex one, there is no easy resolution. first and foremost, the Province has to update the asphalt regulations."  Councilor Zurowski says he is concerned  the Ministry of the Environment seems concerned about bio-energy plants for while they reduce greenhouse gas emissions there are concerns about Pm2.5 emissions.  "Seems the Ministry is very strict with the new industry but passive with existing permit holders."  Zurowski says  there needs to be a higher standard for the Prince George airshed.  

To that end, Councilor Munoz introduced an ammendment,  calling on the City to work with the Ministry and develop its own emission standards which would give Prince George control of its own air shed. The motions were approved .

The second called for the City to work with the gravel pit operating stakeholders to establish terms and conditions for permits that will ensure improved dust suppression and reclamation performance.  It too was carried unanimously.

Councilor Deborah Munoz  introduced a motion that called on the City to establish  an Air Quality bylaw and air pollution bylaw.  The  motion  is meant to avoid the problems "from the get go" says Munoz "If we had  pollution standards in place, we wouldn't have to undergo  30 years of lobbying" that is a reference to the battle neighbours have waged since the early 60's trying to have their concerns over noise, dust and  emissions addressed. 

Developing a by-law is "huge" says Mayor Kinsley and while Council has pushed  the  motion over to  Administration for further discussion, there is no time limit on when City Staff will be expected to have that item brought back to Council.

Councilor Munoz also asked for a new regulation that would prohibit asphalt plants from operations when air quality advisories are in effect. That may have been one too many,  as it was defeated. 

Mark Fercho says "If we are going to take over authority we have to have the human resources to ensure we can monitor it, and monitor it to the point  where it can be unheld in a court of law."Residents were in the Council Chamber in high numbers. 

Mayor Colin Kinsley called for a  detailed plan of attack "We need to work with Administration the Provincial Government, the Asphalt operators and gravel  pits.  I certainly don't want to discourage this approach, but we can't go off willy nilly, we need to be more strategic".

North Nechako Neighbourhood Resident Kathleen Haines said  she was a a little disappointed "It is still a health issue, and I am  disappointed  only two Councilors (Skakun and Munoz) wanted to go another step forward and  look at the relocation of the  plants."


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Interesting. Interesting that only 'two' on your council (Kakun and Munoz) wanted to go a step further and look into relocating your industry. Residents must be dissapointed. It is always worth relocating for both residents and the industry who will not be able to get on with their lives/work until they are separated. This is not going to end, I suggest you start tracking increased illness from that residential area if you don't separate them. Your map shows many of us for the first time just how close this plant is to your neighborhood and the probability of the fumes going further downstream are real. Was it the city that allowed this land to be used this way...'after' the residents were there? FIX IT! That land is just too close for any industry but for this type of industry...deadly. Even with your controls. They are needed but you must still help the industry and these residents. I can assure you, they will never get along and both will suffer. That is a large number of residents! Only 'two' councillors support moving the industry? Come on Prince George wake up before your get a rude awakening one where you or someone you love develops respiratory problems. Its real.
Ahaaaa.... now you know why Redrock is so "breathably" attractive !! C'monnn down ...:-)
"...Councilor Munoz also asked for a new regulation that would prohibit asphalt plants from operations when air quality advisories are in effect."

More regulations? This Councilor is a real bundle of joy.

We all know that air advisories last most of the summer, so the Councilor obviously has no use for asphalt or gravel. Therefore, the next time a development plan comes to council Munoz is expected to support an exception from graveling paving, curb and gutter.

The opinion by newswatch4 is more typical political pure bull that washes up every time a favorite agenda to lobby comes up. Meanwhile newswatch4's neighbourhood and driveway has already been paved and the sidewalks and gutters are all done.

Newswatch4, industry has been there a lot longer than the residents that are complaining, but you didn't know that did you. It's isn't a significant health issue, as such. Health is just the best way to lobby this issue, that's all.

What is really bugging the residents is a bit of dust on their fancy cars and the noise that comes across the river while they are hosting a little snoote on the patio overlooking the river. It's about perceived asset value increases, if they can get rid of industry. Most residents are in the retirement - semi-retirement stage of life and pretty well healed to boot. At their stage of life they no longer have any use for sand, gravel and pavement, so they want it gone.

Hope this gives you a better grasp of the issues so you can make intelligent comments on this issue next time.

Some of our councilors can be flown over with a feather.
Yama , I think you have had hour head up your asphault for way too long.
..Councilor Munoz also asked for a new regulation that would prohibit asphalt plants from operations when air quality advisories are in effect."
We need something to 'encourage' asphalt plants to meet even the minimal emission standards currently in place. Last paving season, they continued to operate in non-compliance all summer by taking advantage of every loophole in the law. The result was a polluter continuing to spew toxins into what is already the worst airshed in the province.
If operators can't or won't meet standards, then shutting them down during air advisories would put some teeth in the regulations for enforcement.
The technology is there to pollute less- but it costs money. These companies can operate profitably in other jurisdictions with strict controls- why not in PG?
"These companies can operate profitably in other jurisdictions with strict controls- why not in PG?"
The reason, PGL, is that as a municipal gov't we do not have the backbone to demand this. At every turn in the road since I moved here 18 years ago, this community acts like it has to beg business to operate here and so allows them to carry on however they like. Most other communities have more pride and backbone,so don'tcome of as such handmaidens to, for example, the Walmarts of the world. As one presenter from the gallery at lasts night's counsel meeting said, the business must fit the community and not the other way around.
Nice to have YamaDooPolCat chip in he/she does more to support the resident cause than they probably realize.
Trying to deflect the issue of two major industrial sites that have operated in non-compliance with the current very lenient regulations just isn't working anymore, with the general population. People are concerned about the health of themselves and the community. Attitudes are changing and industry (and Council) in Prince George need to catch up with the rest of Canada.
The current report has no concrete recommendations that will resolve the problem of an asphalt industry that thumb their nose at the city and the provincial regulations. We have 35 pages of words that distill down to zero positive action. It would appear though that the report filled its intended role, the asphalt industry was given a clear summer of operation with no interruption and they will continue to operate next year with no interruption. It could take years for the provincial government to adopt new regulations for asphalt plants and you can be sure that the industry (BC Construction Association) is going to politically active trying to water down and delay any change.
Change though will take place, but in the mean time “hold your breath”.
... your head up your asphalt? Sweet! I wish I'd thought of that one. I have to say that the crowd at the council meeting seemed to represent all socio-economic groups...and I can't say there were a lot of 'fancy cars' around either....just honest, hard working taxpayers who want city council to do the job they are elected for - to represent the interests of ALL the citizens of PG - resident and corporate citizens alike. Postponing a decision on relocating the asphalt plants simply demonstrates irresponsibility on the parts of the plant owners and city council. When such a move is ultimately mandated by a higher level of government the options on where and how to make the move may be gone!
Yamawhateveryournameis: You sure know how to stir things up!
Colin Kinsley said at the one of the forums for election that Prince George had sure been good to him as when he arrived he had $5 in his pocket.
Most of his gratitude since has gone to economic development instead of to the residents of the City. Had there not been a sustained base in place by the residents when he arrived, economic growth would not have been possible.
It would be more appropriate if the Mayor and Council had respect for the residents who are the backbone of this City instead of always pitting industry against the residents for that is what Council is doing so well.
It would be a happier City if the Council would promote good will between the sustainable base of the City (the residents) and Industry (which can come and go dependent on profits).
For those that say without industry there would be no City, get a life. This is not a war which is currently being promoted by City Council's decisions but rather a problem which can be happily solved by meeting both industry's and resident's well being. Is that such a big problem, my, if Council can't solve that problem it makes me wonder what they can solve? What are we paying them for?
Foo738 says "...Yamawhateveryournameis: You sure know how to stir things up!.."

Helps keep things in focus by making people defend their stand "off the record" so to speak. Healthy for both sides of the debate.

I do take a regular trashing, but only from the committed few. Lots of folks are not prepared to stand their ground because they know the trash talk is coming for those that have a view from the top of the stairs. However most don't seem to have no problem with ordinary common sense observations.

I'm sure you are all nice folks, but I'm not going to let something as vital to PG as gravel and pavment get a bad rap for a little dust on the cars. I remember my mom used to get real mad when the wind changed and the bee hive burner dusted all the wet clothes on the laundry line. But at the end of the day it was no big deal, came with the territory. Get used to it. By the way mom is nearly 80 now and going strong. Anyone that had health problem from working and living around beehive burners was from alcohol abuse.


Well, Yama. I,too, have lived with the beehive burners. The asphalt plants don't have to go, they have to relocate and City Council has to smarten up on its' temporary use permits which allows industry to get located in the wrong place and then stay there to the detriment of the airshed.
"By the way mom is nearly 80 now and going strong."

So are many other moms and dads that age. Not everyone gets hit. Everyone's body reacts differently and you know that. So, how well your mom is doing is not relevant.

How poorly some are doing, and even how many, including all age groups is much more relevant. We know that people in PG are doing worse with respect to upper respiratory problems than the provincial average. There are many reasons for that, air quality being one of the factors.

Neither I nor any member of my family has a physical handicap requiring ramps, sound signals at signalled intersections, rub strips at the end of a handrail, automatic opening doors, etc. etc.

But there are a significant minority to who. Taht is not much greater than 50 years ago, I suspect. Yet, today we spend millions of dollars upgrading public streets, sidewalks and buildings, as well as commercial buildings in order to accommodate a minority of the population.

Truly civic minded people keep others, irrespective of their situation, in mind.

Hopefully you will find this to be in the spirit of, in your words, helping to "keep things in focus by making people defend their stand "off the record" so to speak. Healthy for both sides of the debate."