Sounds good there John but something tells me that you don't have what it takes to do this!
In my opinion you talk a good battle and run when the guns start...

I do not disagree that those drivers who cause accidents with poor or illegal driving habits should be targeted. However, I think that compelling ICBC to artificially set rates for political purposes by interfering in the rate structure is the wrong way to do it.

It very clearly puts ICBC at a competitive disadvantage in relation to private insurance companies. This approach could be reasonable if legislation were enacted compelling all insurance corporations to set rates this way, but singling out ICBC is discriminatory. With the Liberals' known desire to privatize everything in and out of sight, one has to wonder if that might not be the reason this approach is the one taken.

The fact is that the provincial government could easily enough pass legislation imposing an insurance surcharge of a set amount for those convicted of offenses, or who pay tickets for speeding etc., and make that surcharge applicable to all insurance sold in the province. Doing it this way only serves to make ICBC rate less of the bargain they really are compared to many provinces with private insurance.

Another approach would be even simpler, just increase the fines dramatically for offenders, and leave ICBC out of it altogether.

High risk, dangerous drivers, running red lights are not hard to find. Just drive on the Highway 97 Bypass from the John Hart Bridge, to South of the South Scales, on any given morning and you will see all the dangerous driving you want. What you do not see are any Police giving out speeding, dangerous driving, tickets.

I suspect that most of these people who are driving like maniacs have slept in and are now rushing to get to work on time or as close to on time as they can.

They are there every morning, and any police officer with a glass eye, a wooden leg, a broken down bicycle, and a heinz 57 hound could catch them. Why dont they??
Is it because between 7am and 8am they are having a shift change?

Not only shift change, check the coffee houses, the first order of business is a one hour coffe break every day.....

I agree with ammonra that ICBC should be left out of this and that heavier fines be given by the police.

However, the possibility that a private insurance company would sell cheaper insurance to a driver who has been identified as a high-risk-driver by past driving infractions is very remote.

Private insurers typically prefer to sell insurance to drivers who have a proven clean record.

I think this will discriminate against the poor people.

Its a given that a person driving an older model car with some rust is much more likely to get pulled over and fined by the police as they conduct 'suspicion searches' and leave a ticket as a receipt of their search. Poor guy with rusted car pays his-her seatbelt fine then goes to get insurance and pays an insurance premium even though they are good drivers with no past insurance claims or accidents. Poor guy pays more for being poor and rich guy with off-shore parents zips by blind to the police getting a discount on his insurance for the third replacement car in five years. Rich guy sells his car over sees in one of many unchecked containers heading back to China and collects insurance for it while retaining his driving discount.

Rich guy politician doesn’t see poor guys point of view.

End result poor guy is discriminated against by the police and pays more while having no insurance claims against him-her, and rich guy meanwhile averages $20,000 a year in replacements with maximum insurance discounts while the police smile and wave him by.

That’s’ ICBC in a nutshell. Subsidize those making the insurance claims by penalizing people randomly through either location lottery, or vehicular profiling. Using the random profiling lottery to penalize otherwise good drivers, and then subsidize the real problem drivers getting in the accidents, and in the end calling it a public service.

I would think at minimum speeding and seatbelt fines should NOT be included, because they often reflect nothing more than tax collection services. If anything they should only be using dangerous driving convictions (which could be better enforced), red light infractions (intersections were accidents happen), and impairment infractions.

You should not pay more for insurance because the RCMP are collecting their monthly quota handing our speeding tickets for doing 55km and hour on Foothills.

If this goes into effect I sure hope they take a re-look at the ethics of their enforcement policies so as to tailor their enforcement policies to make them more effect as will as make sure the fine in its entirety matches the crime.

as well

I find that the some ofthe highest risk, dangerous drivers in this community can be found by watching drivers how they handle the few merge lanes we have in this community. There are too many who cannot distinguish between stop, yield and merge signs.

People often do not stop at stop signs.

People often stop at yield signs when there is no traffic coming.

People often slow down in merge lanes and come to complete stops when there is plenty of room to merge into the flowing traffic.

Finally, there are numerous dangerous intersections in this community which are due to poor design. One of the most obvious and recent ones is the lack of a merge lane when turning right from Tyner to HWY 16 West with an off ramp to the shopping centre immediately after that turn. That entire intersection is the most dangerous in town, I believe.

So, the same as incidents on forestry roads, the design of the infrastructure is a major contributor which is not being considered in the equation.

Then again, one can argue that we all have to drive according to the conditions, which is certainly true.

irvers High risk, dangerous drivers, running red lights are not hard to find

How about the guys that paint the road lines. Going by the Walmart the road lines swing 20 feet in every direction. Not sure why they couldn't just make it straight, but I guess the guys painting the road lines were drunk.