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Disciplinary Hearing for Slemko Wrong Move: One Man's Opinion

By Ben Meisner

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 03:45 AM

        
The more you view the goings on in the shooting death of Ian Bush, the more you begin to realize we have a justice system that is coming apart at the seams.
The most recent event coming out of the Bush inquest is from the Edmonton City Police who will put Const Joe Slemko in front of a disciplinary hearing over his testimony at the inquest.
Slemko, a blood spatter expert, testified the shooting did not take place in the manner that was described by RCMP Constable Paul Koester. Koester says he was on the bottom of a struggle between Bush and himself and, because Bush was  choking him to death,  feared for his life.  Koester says he drew his pistol and somehow was able to reach around and fire a bullet into the back of Ian Bush's head.
Slemko said, No way, it was his belief that in fact the police officer was either on top or to the side of Bush when the fatal shot was fired.
Listening to Slemko on the stand it is plain to see he has a passion for his work. Moreover, he believes in the principal that it is important to tell the truth, regardless of the consequences.
Edmonton Supt Dwayne Gibbs says that since the Crown and Police are, "indivisible" in a prosecution, Slemko was in conflict when he gave evidence that disputed the Crown’s theory.
He also said  Slemko must clear all outside work with the Edmonton Police force before undertaking it. No surprise, given the fact that the RCMP wrote a letter of complaint to the Edmonton Police because Slemko  had provided evidence in the past that had resulted in murder charges being stayed.
We certainly don’t want testimony that might get at the truth in the issue getting in the way of how some police officers feel the incident went down, especially if it goes against what they believe took place.
Slemko was raked over the coals by the lawyer representing Koester at the inquest. There was more than a concerted effort to try and get Slemko dismissed as an expert witness and why, surely an inquest would want to know what actually took place?
An inquest cannot, I repeat, cannot, establish blame, and Supt Dwayne Gibbs should be aware of that. It is not a matter of a charge or conviction but rather how the event took place. The Crown, that at last breath was supposed to represent all of us, should be more than happy to search for the truth.
Somehow the truth and the ability to tell the truth are becoming lost in our society. It is we who pay for the, "Crown" the Police and those who represent them.
We also pay for the justice system , a system where each of us is supposed to have the right to stand before our accusers and receive a fair hearing . I say "supposed to" in Joe Slemko’s case the very fact that the charges have been made indicates that there is a law for them and a law for us.
By not  wanting to hear an alternate version of what might have happened in the interview room that night  in October,  the police  have verified the public's concern about police  investigating police, that  only aspects and avenues which support their  theory  will be explored.
That concern has been  punctuated with  an exclamation mark as Joe Slemko is now being disciplined for telling what he believes to be the truth. 
His version may be right,  it may be wrong, but it is his duty to share that version. 
I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.

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Sent a nasty email to the chief of police in Edmonton regarding their attitute towards Constable Joe Slemko. Hopefully more will send emails to give them a message.
The term "indivisible"is an interesting one to say the least!
I wonder if it still applies even if somebody is not telling the truth?
Does that mean that the crown and the police are duty bound to back up each others versions of what may have actually happened inspite of evidence to the contrary?
The Edmonton police force operates under the Crown of Alberta. The Bush inquest was conducted on behalf of the Crown of British Columbia. Those are two different legal entities. There is no conflict in any case.

If any person has attempted to inhibit someone from testifying with the intention of hiding the facts or stopping an accused from giving a proper defense, it is my opinion that they are engaging in the obstruction of justice and should be charged with that offense, police officer or not.
Yeah, I think it means they look out for each other. Apparently we the public should just let them alone to do their jobs and don't ask questions.
I was surprised that an active policeman (Slemko) was testifying in this case. It suggested to me that the Edmonton City Police were more or less independent of the RCMP. Obviously not. It is easy to understand why a police force should have some autonomy, but in cases such as the late Mr. Bush, and Mr. St Arnaud, should we not have an independent investigation? Who knows, the police may end up being cleared of wrong doing in these cases anyway, by an independent inquiry. At least then the public would not be left with the perception that there has been a cover up. I know that is how it looks to me, based on what the media reports.
metalman.
Perhaps it's time to fire the chief of the Edmontom police force. I, for one, am tired of seeing the corruption of senior officers in police forces across the country. And yes, I consider the attempt to block the truth as corruption.
How did Joe Slempko come to investigate the crime scene? Was he there to view the original crime scene as an officer of the law to investigate the events and coroborate the evidence? or was he invited by the family of the victim to review evidence and offer a second opinion after the fact, in which case, all he would have to go on would be photos and statements?

The fact that he is being reprimanded for offering his alternate version of the facts is reprehensible. (Note: "Alternate" being different from those facts presented by the locals.)

Since when did telling one's interpretation of the truth become against the law??
This quote dripping in sarcasm is directed at all members of police who are doing this great injustice to these families and members of society. "A flock of freakin' Freud's!!!"
Do they not know the more they do these "inside actions" against us it's just one more point up for us? Not sure who's brain is coming up with all this craziness but all it's doing is just showing us all how crooked they really are. They just want to win and you know what we will not stand for that. We are stronger and bigger than they'll ever be and we will take a stand to this b.s. They need to be slapped in the face with pictures of these dead men....blood does not lie it tells exactly how their lives were stolen! You're in my heart Joe and you have become one of my heroes.
He is not being placed in front of a panel for testifying...he is being paneled because "he didn't have permission" to do so... And I am sure if he was in the right the tribunal will come to that finding. but if he was wrong....he was wrong!
I couldn't have said it better myself heidi. Joe Slemko did a very honerable thing and what does he get for it? I'm thinking a good nights sleep. He is also on my list of heroes.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=2460c3a3-9e2e-40e8-93e6-b0e632930448&k=0
Joe Slemko article: "Up against his own"
He says he won't back down.
Taken from the RCMP website:

"Mission, Vision and Values

MISSION - The RCMP is Canada's national police service. Proud of our traditions and confident in meeting future challenges, we commit to preserve the peace, uphold the law and provide quality service in partnership with our communities.

VISION - We will:

be a progressive, proactive and innovative organization
provide the highest quality service through dynamic leadership, education and technology in partnership with the diverse communities we serve
be accountable and efficient through shared decision-making
ensure a healthy work environment that encourages team building, open communication and mutual respect
promote safe communities
demonstrate leadership in the pursuit of excellence
CORE VALUES OF THE RCMP - Recognizing the dedication of all employees, we will create and maintain an environment of individual safety, well-being and development. We are guided by:

integrity
honesty
professionalism
compassion
respect
accountability

COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITIES - The employees of the RCMP are committed to our communities through:
unbiased and respectful treatment of all people
accountability
mutual problem solving
cultural sensitivity
enhancement of public safety
partnerships and consultation
open and honest communication
effective and efficient use of resources
quality and time service

COMMITMENT TO THE EMPLOYEES OF THE RCMP - Commitment to the employees of the RCMP - In the spirit of shared leadership and recognizing all employees as our greatest asset, we commit to:

open, honest and bilateral communication
demonstrating leadership through accountability and responsibility at all levels
treating all employees with equal respect and consideration
ensuring the safety of our employees by developing and enforcing minimum resourcing standards
training that is timely, specific to the needs and relevant to job requirements
effective and efficient management of human resources through consultation, teamwork and empowerment at all levels
ensuring a safe and harassment free work environment
encouraging and recognizing innovation and creativity
fair and equitable systems to deal with
recognition for good performers
compensation and entitlements
financial hardship caused by employees' worksite
consistently poor performers
discipline and discharge
promoting health, safety and well-being
ensuring adequate human, financial and material resources
enhancing job security through aggressive marketing of our services"

This is a joke right?

A policeman has the right to use lethal force to protect his life.If Bush was succesful in his attack I'm sure the story wouldn't even be news here anymore. There has been enough police officers killed and injured recently. Thank god it did not happen in this case. 99.9% of the general public don't experience these types of things, the reason being that they have more common sense than those nitwits that decide that it is okay to attack cops. Heidi, you don't speak for the general public,so spare us.
Oh troll I could just squeeze those cute little troll cheeks of yours!!
I agree with Ammonra on the obstruction of justice view of this situation. I think it started from the first news release and has continued since that day.

Obstruction of justice has always been the more serious matter here all along, it's just missed through the display of incompetence and conflicting stories.
"Justice
Justice signifies the principle that although things sometimes seem askew, the Universe is ultimately fair. We may not see or understand why things happen, but most of us sense there is, in fact, a reason and that balance exists even when we cannot see it. Justice denotes fairness, regardless of who you are. At its purest, the forces embodied by Justice give us the power to see without bias and the courage to be accountable for our actions. These powers also test our faith at times. These powers give us the tools and strength to fight injustice in our everyday life. All we have to do is use them."