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Are Beetles Contributing to Climate Change?

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 01:29 PM

    Climate change and milder winters are being blamed for  the rapid spread of the mountain  pine beetle. Now there is research underway at UNBC to see if the beetle is now  adding to  climate change.

UNBC Professor Art Fredeen is  conducting research to see if the beetles  are  creating increases in the levels of greenhouse gases.

Two research sites have been set up, one is near the Crooked River Provincial Park  north of Prince George, the other is at the Kennedy Siding east of Mackenzie. 

The sites will measure emissions of carbon dioxide from 1) standing forests where the trees have been killed by the pine beetle and 2) areas that have already been logged.

Fredeen says  clear cutting can  release significant amounts of carbon dioxide for 10 years or more  after logging. "Old forests store tremendous amounts of carbon that they acquire during photosynthesis. If trees are cut down or are killed by the pine beetle, they don’t absorb carbon anymore. Climate change may be a final result.”

He says the sheer scale of the mountain pine beetle infestation means that salvage logging could have a very real impact on the link between forests, harvesting, and climate change.

"This is a tiny part of the whole climate change puzzle " says Fredeen who adds the  carbon dioxide release is still a small fraction of  the fossil fuel combustion in the province.

He expects to have some  research results  sometime next year.


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Ah man caused climate change. It is a good scam and a profitable ride to get on. There is more and more evidence everyday against this co2 scam. Do some research on the internet, loads of information. Global warming yes. We are still comming out of the last ice age and the little ice age. Google those. Earths climate is dynamic not static. Al Gore come on people he is a politician that should be your first red flag. Beetle kill causing co2 release = global warming, hey that should be good for a few bucks.

Here is one, parts of Australia just had some of the coolest weather they have seen in one hundred years.
Whatever happened to that ice age we were supposed to get into in the 70's? That was the big thing back then.
Disco!
Just talking about global warming is causing more CO2 to be released. We should stop talking about it to save the environment.
"The sites will measure emissions of carbon dioxide from 1) standing forests where the trees have been killed by the pine beetle and 2) areas that have already been logged."

What about a control site of where there has been no beetle kill and no logging?

"UNBC Professor Art Fredeen is conducting research to see if the beetles are creating increases in the levels of greenhouse gases."

And here I thought that he was studying those little farts, when really he is studying whether standing dead trees are causing increases in CO2 and whether harvested areas are causing increases in CO2.

I would assume that dry, dead trees on the stump do not create anything much in the way of oxygen or CO2 until they begin the decaying process. I would expect that the finding would be that there is no CO2 being taken up and no Oxygen being released.

As far as logged areas, that should be virtually no different than any other logged areas in the past.

So, again, where are the control sites of pre beetle logging?
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What about completing the cycle of the MPB killed trees which are less likely to be used for timber, where the CO2 stays sequestered for many decades in building construction, and more likely to be used for pulping, and then cardboard and paper products which end up being recycled, or in land fills where they decay and cause GHG. And then follow the trail of the current vogue of using the hog fuel in cogen plants or pellet plants which are, in turn, shipped the world over to hest homes in far off lands, using wood instead of hydro generated electricity.

Why can’t we deal with the whole process.

I know, in the end, one can only get so much CO2 out of a log. The only difference is when and where it gets released.

Finally, lets deal with the CO2 uptake part of the equation. Plant early, plant often, plant fast growing.
The real research that needs to be done is why common sense is going extinct.

Humanity dumps millions of tons of Carbon into the biosphere and it's not suppose to have any impact. Or some continue to claim.

I just remind myself that there are still people claiming that the NAZI's didn't murder any Jews to understand how some people love their ego driven beliefs more than they love truth.
"Humanity dumps millions of tons of Carbon into the biosphere and it's not suppose to have any impact."

Actually it is billions of tons, not millions, so the impact is a thousand times greater.

In any case, science does already and common sense should tell us that we should stop polluting the air we breathe, the water we drink and the ground we walk on.

The next closest planet that can support life as we know is just too dam# far away to become a readily accessible refuge for mankind after this planet Earth has become a hostile poisonous garbage dump.
So the environmentalists that protested a potential clearcut of a provincial park several years ago that may have stopped the pine beetle epidemic, have not only created one of the largest natural disasters in Canadian history, but are also now potentially responsible for global warming. Looks like more environmental damage caused by the environmental movement,than the oilsands have/are creating.
Ok folks you want common sense on co2. Billions maybe trillions of dollors will be spent chasing co2 and there will be virtually no change. Where is this money going to come from? Its going to be taken from other enviromental causes, health care etc etc. Here are a couple of web sites checking on the real facts. http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/Index.jsp http://www.friendsofscience.org/ http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=513 http://www.junkscience.com/

Have a good read, lots of real facts.
"that MAY have stopped the pine beetle epidemic"

The operative word is MAY. In fact, when you go back to the situation, there were outbreaks in other areas, as is normal. What is also normal is that there was typically no human intervention, one of the reasons being that it is not possible to access ever single place where there is a major outbreak, not more than it is possible to fight every single forest fire.

In this part of the world, such local epidemics were typically stopped by cold weather, as every person living here for at least 5 days should know by now. The thing which changed was not that we did not mechanically treat the situation, since we did not do that in all cased previously. The thing that changed was that we did not get sufficiently cold weather. Blame the weather situation on whoever you like. Whether natural or man made, I really do not care. The fact is it happened and we now have to face the consequences of redirecting some of out economic piece of the pie.