Weapons, stolen car, abducted person in the trunk, all this in PG? Sounds like a bit out of a movie. Maybe I should move to Vancouver, it'd likely be safer.

I'm curious about the identities of the owner and the passengers.

What's strange is I was always led to believe that crime increased to do poor economic conditions. So what's the reason now?

The reason now is the big boys of drugs are moving into town and they are taking over. Like most places the police forces are not able to stop it.

steeliepete: vancouver is not safer. (check out latest shooting and stabbings). Gangs are on the rise in vancover and guns are all over the place.

lunarguy is correct in his assumption and I will bet my next paycheque this incident is gang and drug related.

As for the 24 yr old woman: if she was a party to the incident, meaning she was one of the "bad guys" well, live by the sword, die by it.

An innocent person gets murdered in Houston, but these low lifes are still alive, go figure.

As it seems obvious that this story involves illicit drugs, my diatribe follows;
The drug people must be stopped, at any cost. They are a cancer that is ruining our society. Our moral fabric is rotting, our children are learning the wrong things, and life is cheap to these scum.
How can we simply accept statements like the one from lunarguy (no offense to him) "the police cannot stop it" The police are sworn to uphold the law, unfortunately that law protects the syphilitic scum sucking mutant maggots that purvey these drugs. The laws must change, to include severe punishment for drug crimes. That is the only way to discourage crime (fear of punishment) The consequences these maggots face for their crimes against society are laughable. Like diseased rats, they simply multiply in a situation that allows them to prosper. They are rising to the top of the food chain, because there are no predators to stem their reproduction. Their only natural enemy is an old, toothless justice system, which has no speed or strength. The drug pushers must be stopped at any cost.
metalman.

While it is easy to take a one sided look at the drug world, and say that they must be stopped at all cost, just exactly how do you expect to do this when the police are out numbered, out financed, live under laws that they must follow while criminals have no rules, a population that has been put in economic poverty (a known precurser for addictions)which provides willing customers and dealers, etc. Perhaps it is time to look at why the criminals have such a willing and loyal clientel. After all if there are no customers there is no business. As long as we continue to attack this problem from the wrong end it will only get worse just like we have seen. As long as there is money to be made, there will always be someone there to make it. By the way the stolen car was from Mackenzie and then used in a break-in on Oak Street. One group of drug business employee's going after another, or just debt collection? Who cares. The drug world is winning the war by a large margin. If you are losing a war, you had better change your tactics.

RIGHT ON---

METALMAN FOR WARDEN AND REALIST FOR POLICE CHIEF. TOOTH FOR TOOTH JUSTICE MUST COME BACK. JUDGES SHOULD BE ELECTED AND ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE.

Two billion dollars for gun control there is wasted money the police could have used. Any person using grass is financing crime and supporting terrorism, I believe they are just as guilty.

Today's gun control is like closing the gate after the horses have left...

This has nothing to do with grass and everything to do with hard drugs and the hard ups that it generates. Boozers create more crime than grass smokers. Its the hard drugs with instant addictions that fuel the crime world.

The illegality of grass is a government sponsorship of the crime world through enabling another revenue source to sustain their activities when hard drugs dry up as well as through the crime worlds ability to recruit through their tainted products.

It is the hard drug industry that drives crime, imports crates of hand guns for use in crimes and intimidation against the public, and creates the mental instability that leads to irrational actions on their part.

The person using grass is simply relaxing and expanding their mind smoking suspect weed while hiding out from discrimination against their lifestyle. Its the government and the ignorant that are financing crime and supporting terrorism through their drug and gun policies.

Chadermando I agree with your response, except for "nothing to do with grass"
I too have a liberal attitude toward maryjane, and strongly believe it is no more harmful to the body than is alcohol, and certainly less socially harmful, once you remove the criminal element from the equation. Where I happen to disagree with your statement above is because of the well known connection between organized crime (heck's angels, crew, & the also turds) and marijuana. These creatures are controlling both the hard drug (crack, meth) and the soft drug (marijuana) markets. As I understand it, they export the pot, and import the cocaine. I do not know if there are any growers of pot out there who do not 'work' for the H.A. I have heard that they do not allow competition in that market.
I am one of the many who believe in decriminalization of the cultivation and sale of marijuana. It should be taxed and controlled just like alcohol, with the same penalties for abuse (such as when d.u.i.) A simplistic view, perhaps, but what the gov't does now is not curbing the flow or use of this product, so why not legalize? So, while pot itself is not causing all the social ills, it is all related because of the lowlife element.

As to Realists' suggestion that we look at this from a perspective of reducing the demand for the drugs, poppycock!
I believe in stopping this crime at its' source, the criminal. Make the criminals pay bigtime for their sins, and we will see fewer criminals. Put them in the slammer, for hard time, get them off the streets, sure it costs a lot to house a syphilitic maggot for a long time, but what cost is society paying to live with the consequences of doing next to nothing about the problem? You ask what can the police do? Your right, their hands are tied by the 'justice' system, but my POINT is, the justice system is what has to change, and become far more harsh towards those who commit crimes related to the illegal drug market. It will not be easy, it will cost a lot, it will take years to implement, but we have to do this! The criminals are spreading like an untreated cancer, and our police establishment has few tools to stop the spread. I think that while every good bust is a step in the right direction, we have not done enough in the way of prevention, i.e. hard time for crime. Our system seems to be one of focusing on plugging the minor leaks in the dike with water based chewing gum, while the entire dam is overflowing through several breaches that we know about, but do not have the resources to fix right now. Maybe in next years' budget we can fix some of the big leaks, but for now let's just temporarily patch the little ones. I guess I am a mite windy on this here topic, but make no apologies, I am just blowing off steam, but maybe, just maybe, if enough people believe.......
metalman.

Untreated cancers need aggressive treatment. We need tougher laws, bring back capital punishment. Why are we even feeding these bottom feeders? These scum give up their rights when they chose the wrong path, they show no remorse and don't give a rats petute about human life. They deserve nothing better than they give.

I won't even mention "death squads", like the have in Rio or thereabouts. Besides, we are civilized. Right?

well then, I guess god passed sentence on the girl driving the stolen car!

My point was that probably 5% maximum of the overall drug trade involving weed is operated by the criminal element. The vast 95% are people of criminality simply because they chose to smoke the stuff and for no other reason.

The hells angles if they are lucky control maybe 2% of the overall trade in BC. Maybe some others control a percent for themselves, I don't know, but most 95% is probably friend to friend and criminality never enters the equation. The hells angles could care less who is buying and selling weed in a local market, because all they want and are able to control is the American trade for other hard drugs. At most they will try to collect some from others for export, but even that is risky for them.

Those 5% low lives that cause all the problem also happen to be the same people that sell hard vices in their efforts to destroy peoples lives for profits. Those are the 5% that need to be eliminated, and you don't do anything to achieve that by making the 95% otherwise law abiding citizens criminals to be hunted down and hung by the nearest lamp post. It stretches resources to thin and is counter productive in the long term.

Legalizing weed would IMO eliminate the 95% from their interaction with the low life 5%, therefore, reducing the proximity to hard drugs and the enabling factor for hard drug activities (ie theft, OD, violence ect). With a controlled market society benefits by taxation, addressing the problem openly, health assurances and standards, as well as the increased ability to focus on rooting out the real source of evil crime through a thinning out of the background noise and exposing those involved in the hard drug trade or weapons based activities. Otherwise they hide among us, and we ask government to strip everyone of their rights in search of the few that the courts should have taken care of a long time ago.

Well spoken, Chadermando.
It was my impression that more of the pot trade was controlled by them, I heard that from a person who is on the fringe of the criminal element (or so he says)
metalman.

Good lord, look at all these fancy solutions to an isolated incident.

These guys will face numerous, serious charges on this. Due process, and be done with it.

The state of our society is like global warming.....we did nothing about it, at the time when we should have done something or could have done something, and now it's just too late on both counts.

Remember, by the time you see your car sailing down the hill with no driver, it's already too late to realize you forgot to set the brake and try to stop it.

It started much earlier, but it has only now caught your eye because it's moving much faster.

As for the survivors, they should be sentenced to run CN trains through Lilloet.