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P.G. Says One Thing, Does Another: One Man's Opinion

By Ben Meisner

Thursday, August 16, 2007 03:45 AM

            

When the City opted to spend $150,000 dollars on a feasibility study for a Performing Arts Center in the city,  they didn’t put any conditions in place that would satisfy the taxpayers that the report will not be slanted in any way towards the project. In fact it seemed just the opposite as the Councilors were tripping over one another trying to be the first to put up the money.

Will the study be conducted with a view to determining whether in fact such a facility will be able to stand alone, or will it draw its revenue and traffic from existing venues such as the Civic Center, Playhouse and Vanier Hall?

The fact that former Councilor Cliff Dezell has assured Council that he will look after the money just doesn’t cut it.

Case in point (well come to think about it several cases in point) 

  1. Dezell was on Council when the new Art Gallery was built. He made need his memory jogged a bit, doesn’t he remember that part of the cash for the project, a good portion, was to come from the sale of Studio 2880?  Well folks at last count Studio 2880 remains alive and well, and is still in the City’s hands, so much for that act of wisdom on where the money will come from.
  2. Then of course who can forget the purchase of the old Yellowhead Road and Bridge facility on 20th. Cliff also sat on Council when it was decided to buy that facility, because we could recover a bunch of the money selling the old maintenance yard on 5th. Well at last count both yards where still operating in spite of the fact that the population hasn’t increased enough to warrant the major increase in facilities, but that move somehow has been lost in the shuffle.
  3. Then permit me if you will to drag out the Terasen Gas deal , it makes me shudder every time I drive by the sign on Nechako Road saying "this stretch was paid for in part by money from the Terasen Gas deal". Cliff also sat on the Finance Committee when the City spent  more than $600 thousand dollars to sell the  deal  heading into the referendum on that  "agreement".  Remember,  the  counter petition  clearly indicated the taxpayers did not want to borrow the money for  that deal. I don’t see anywhere on those signs that mentioned that the first couple of years all the money that we got came out of the taxpayers pockets. Nope to the contrary, just spin telling us just what a good deal we got.

Taxpayers have had their share in recent times of things that were to be that never occurred and before we embark on yet another project, perhaps we should first give an honest to goodness account of what it will cost and what it will cost to service it and  just what it will cost the other venues to have a new facility operating in Prince George.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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Hi, Ben: I actually logged in to comment on CN Rail, but cannot let this issue go by without comment. Libraries and "Town Centre" projects are black-holes that appear to be irresistible to local politicians. Maple Ridge, Williams Lake, North Vancouver and your own Prince George taxpayers - all, and probably more, have been grist to this mill. The only upside to paying these bills is that, sooner or later (but not soon enough?) the fallout from the projects leads to defeat at the polls. At least in PG, you don't have long to wait for an election.
Now for CN.......
Construction of this proposed facility will result in higher taxes.
Yet another city owned building that must be maintained. Another operating budget, and ongoing maintenance/repairs will add to the yearly costs. More people will be hired all the way down the line, from administration of the additional budget (maybe) to managers, operating staff (for sure) Not that additional jobs are a bad thing, but I believe we are not spending enough money in the right places now, for example, on roads. With those new job positions comes increased burden on the tax base. I question whether the spin offs from having ANOTHER public space for performances will even begin to approach the true costs of operating it.
metalman.
Take a drive through 7th and Victoria and tell me whether our tax dollars are being spent wisely. I will not support a 1 cent increase in taxes as long as this irresponsible spending continues. I will also lobby the Provincial government to refuse any request for our Municipal Government to raise taxes, increase taxes or create another excuse to tax us.

Enough is already too much. Time to cut back, reduce debt, improve basic infrastructure and forget about pie in the sky projects designed to burden us with more debts. Chester
"pie in the sky projects designed to burden us with more debts."

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"Enough is already too much. Time to cut back, reduce debt, improve basic infrastructure and forget about pie in the sky projects designed to burden us with more debts. Chester"

Here are pictures showing how casually some things have been treated in P.G. - it is indicative of the lack of dedication to some of the most basic and it isn't even a safe condition.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11689678@N08/?saved=1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11689678@N08/?saved=1
Those utility poles in the middle of a sidewalk were an oddity when I came here 35 years ago. I could not understand how anyone could allow such a thing. Time to get some skyhooks.

Look at the curb quality, the breakup of the asphalt surface and the weeds. The same is already happening with those nice red pavers in the medians – full of weeds. Look at the one on fifth heading east as it switches into 4th. There is a flower garden right after it which always looked nice, but the lack of seasonal maintenance on the brick looks like we are living in some backward community that cares little about its appearance …… well ….

When I was in Nanaimo recently I noticed that that they have hand held mechanical brooms which they wash and scrub down the downtown sidewalks with. Amazing!!!!!

[url]http://flickr.com/photos/26306372@N00/243312688[/ulr]
I really don't know what the solution is for the weeds growing in all the joints and cracks but power poles obstructing the normal use of a sidewalk shouldn't be allowed to exist for decades. Why are the power poles in the wrong place? Or is it the sidewalk that shouldn't be where it was constructed? Who did the engineering for the street and why wasn't an objection made when one job conflicted with the other?

Like, stop the work and make a phone call to get the people responsible out to the worksite?

And, over the long haul, shouldn't a few of these ridiculous conditions be tackled every year until the situation has been corrected?

Of course, it would require some of the higher ups who are loathe to go to the trouble to inspect the actual world out there to leave the comfort of an airconditioned office to make a regular visual inspection of the physical things they are responsible for.

Obviously, they are not clued in.

"Obviously, they are not clued in."

Put them in a wheelchair for a few weeks, or get them a baby stroller for a few weeks and they might get clued in.

A good sign that the sidewalks are not working, whether it is utility poles or pavement which is cracked or shifted or poor curb cuts at corners, is to look at the number of people with powered wheelchairs who use the roadways instead of the sidewalks.

So, is the City handicapped friendly? Nope!

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"I really don't know what the solution is for the weeds growing in all the joints and cracks"

The easiset way is to build solid enough with properly designed (keyed) joints, proper subgrades, and proper superstructure thicknesses, whether asphalt or concrete. In other words, spend $ on quality in the first place. Don't use pavers with wide joints. One can lay them very tightly together or one can also use polymeric sand which reduces the cahnce of weeds growing.
Good points!

"...or poor curb cuts at corners, is to look at the number of people with powered wheelchairs who use the roadways instead of the sidewalks."

Highland Drive has NO curb cuts at ANY corner! But, now that the white line has been painted on the road I see people with prams and even wheelchairs using that *lane* instead of the so-called sidewalk while anxiously casting glances back over their shoulders - the other side of the road/street has no sidewalk at all.

The speed limit (not posted) is 50km/hour but the more usual speed is closer to 65km/h with some traffic going 80km/h.

And faster, when it comes to motorcycles.

This insane speeding makes it even more important to have a sidewalk of proper width, proper slant, proper curb cuts and properly sanded in the winter - that, however is another subject as plowing and sanding is usually days behind and of a highly superficial *quality.*

Beats me how PG wins any excellence awards for anything from anybody.