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P.G. Derailment Orders Lifted

By 250 News

Thursday, August 23, 2007 03:58 AM

Transport Canada has rescinded the 5 orders issued to CN following the collision and derailment in Prince George on August 4th.

Transport Canada spokesperson Rod Nelson says the railway has implemented new operating procedures and CN can once again  resume  moving longer trains and reinstate the “point of protection zone”.

“We have reviewed CN’s new operational procedures, and we are satisfied the issues have been addressed so the orders have been rescinded.”

The five orders issued were as follows:

1.  Train movement will not be protected by the “point protection” zone, and any existing instructions related to the “point protection” zone ( P.P.Zone) are null and void.   (The inspectors believe this zone, which was to control train traffic, gave operators a false sense of security that there was only one train in the zone at any given time.)

2.  An employee must physically  be on a leading end of equipment to view the track at all times to avoid possible conflicts when switching. (Opinion250 has been told the trains were being operated by "remote control")

3.  The maximum cars to be handled is 30 loads, or 40 cars, but if  40, at least 10 have to be empty.  (CN has confirmed there were3 locomotives and 53 cars on the northbound train, while the southbound train had two locomotives and 67 cars)

4.  There has to be a sufficient number of cars with operating air brakes to control movement

5.  All data related to the braking performance, inspection, repairs and yard engines assigned to switching duties, must be retained for 30 days.

CN spokesperson Kelly Svendsen confirms the orders have been rescinded, but will not release the details of the new operational procedures.

Transport Canada cannot release the details of the operational procedure changes, saying only that the railway has outlined a new training program, and a system that will ensure there is “adequate” braking power.  Opinion 250 has been advised that if it wants the full details, a request for “Access to Information” will have to be filed.

Meantime, the Ministry of the Environment is still waiting for the delivery of CN’s site clean up plan.  The railway has until Friday to submit the plan outlining how it will prevent diesel and gasoline contaminated soil from entering the Fraser river.

    
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Nutz. Everything TC outlined was very reasonable and safe.
So basically CN has been told get ot there and try again , you missed last time...
go figure....
I wonder who is paying whom off?
"Kelly will not release the details of the new procedures." Grrr

Well, don't look just where they tell you, try to notice what they don't want you to see.
Illusionists should be banned from operating railroads, IMHO
If the government will not do something about C.N. why don't we? I suggest we block the rails. According to Campbell we still own the rail bed so let's retake our property. While our M.L.A.'s continue to refuse to protect us, let's protect ourselves. I promise if we stop C.N.'s money flow they will be forced to change their ways. Let's hear in these posting what support we have for this idea. If I see enough positive comment I'll look into what we need to stop these guys dead in our tracks.
DO THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE AN ENGINEER IN THE LEAD LOCO. IF NOT.. THAT IS BU{{ SH\T.
IT'S NOT SAFE HAVING MEGA TON TONKA TOYS RUNNING AROUND,GUIDED BY REMOTE CONTROL.
ALMOST ALL IN YARD DERAILMENTS HAVE INVOLVED A REMOTE CONTROLLED TRAIN .MAKES YOU FEEL REAL SAFE DOESN'T IT???
Folks its called risk assessment. That is the corporate buzzword. It is defined as the ratio of losses, damage, injury and deaths per unit of money. That is how my outfit operates.
Realist... I wouldn't be in favour of that.
You'll be arrested and charged. Lobby the federal government and try to get media attention.

giterdun. Remote-controlled engines are not operated by engineers. People are being trained to run them but the training standards are much lower than when I hired on twenty years ago.
Protection for the movement as required by Transport Canada in item 1 above, is rescinded and the location of the movement indicated by signal lights. Bad idea, IMO.
Eyes are better, but CN does not like it when one member of the crew rides the engine. Why, I can't even guess.
You can wait forever for the governments to take action. The only way things will change is if the people speak up for themselves. If you let fear of getting arrested cloud your decision, you will let them win and all of us lose. By now it must be quite apparent to those of us who have watched this situation get worse and worse that the government and it's minions are useless in protecting it's citizens especially when the right thing would cut into a corporations financial well being. Governments put money first over peoples safety. Only we can and will protect ourselves.
It's not like that tampon commercial:

Upgrade! excuse me? Upgrade! Hell-llo...

The people that work for the railroad, especially CN, are not saying that.

They are tired of DOWNGRADES in safety, inspection and training procedures while CN continues to make all that profit, while it has the lowest cost-to-profit ratio in North America.
"Opinion 250 has been advised that if it wants the full details, a request for “Access to Information” will have to be filed."

I am assuming that it will be filed, unless there is a horendous cost to it.

The optics are just not good on this. I realize the decision CN has to make here is giving operating inforamtion to the general public when that is not a requirement, versus "the right thing to do" by making an exception after a public scare caused by CN and CN alone. They are likely afraid of a precedent being set.

I think CN needs to rethink their approach to public relations and recall they are operating in the 21st, not the 19th century.
Gossip tells me CN will be using more brakes but not reducing length as much as TC ordered. I don't know anything about what happened to requirement #5 above.
When the railway says it has outlined a new training program, I wonder what that means. Drew it in the sand?
Years ago the training programs were better.
Outlining a new training program is the first step. Here are the others:

2. hire a course writer to write the material for the program
3. deliver a pretest to a trial group of individuals
4. deliver the course material to that trial group
5. deliver an exit test to the trial group and receive comments from the group
6. adjust the material based on the input from the testing class
7. write an instructor script for the course material if there will be a wide audience and train instructors for a wide audience delivery
8. deliver a pretest to all those to receive the course
9. deliver an exit test to all those who complete the course
10. determine the success of the input part of the program
11. monitor incidents subsequent to the program delivery.
12. on a quarterly basis compare the pre program incidents to the post program incidents
13. if there is no reduction of incidents after 2 years, go back to step one.

So, in a nutshell, expect no changes for a while. Also, if there are changes in the short term signaled by reduced incidents, do not attribute them to the program, since it may be within normal statistical deviation which is there over time. Typically longer periods of monitoring are required to determine a causal relationship.
"Gossip tells me .... "

Is that olde man Jason Gossip or his daughter Jane?

;-)
Neither one Owl, it was the son, Idle Gossip
ahhhhhh ....
:-)
Other people in the running trades who work in PG. I haven't seen any paper.
I hope I'm not like Cassandra. She told the truth but nobody believed her.
I used to fix track, now I work as train crew. I'm not a professional writer.
Government and CN hand in hand.
Politicians in the government and in CN.
Politicians before professionals