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PACHA Sees Red Over Green Energy Plant

By 250 News

Sunday, January 27, 2008 03:57 AM

    

Proposed site for the Community Energy Plant, 5th Ave & Scotia   (Opinion250 file photo)

Prince George, B.C. -  Last week’s announcement of an $8.3-million dollar Community Energy System that will use hot water to heat a number of downtown city buildings, is not sitting well with a local watchdog group.  But the City hopes to allay concerns.

The People’s Action Committee for Healthy Air, or PACHA, is calling for an environmental impact assessment to look at the potential increase in fine particulate matter that will result from the proposed plant, which will burn biomass waste to fuel the hot water heating system.

PACHA says current PM2.5 levels need to be reduced in the city, and the group questions why City officials would seemingly go against recommendations just presented in the Mayor’s Task Force on Air Quality Improvement

The City’s Environmental Coordinator, Gina Layte Liston, the project will have to go through the federal Canadian Environmental Assessment  (CEA) process as a condition of funding from Ottawa.

"We don’t get a contract, or money, or anything until our project has been approved through that process," says Layte Liston.  "The other process that we have to go through, provincially, is a waste discharge permit (air permit)."

She says there are several different levels to the CEA process and the City won’t know for two or three weeks just what type of screening and review the community energy system will be subject to -- it can take three months, or six months, but Layte Liston assures, all of the processes have a public consultation process.

As for the impact on PM2.5 emissions, the Environmental Coordinator says keeping a lid on fine particulate matter was paramount in planning the project.  Layte Liston says a plant of this size would generally produce between five- and six-tonnes of particulate matter, but the City told its consultants PM2.5 emissions had to be below one-tonne.  To achieve that goal, the plant will double up on the best air pollution control technology available at this point, electrostatic precipitators.

Layte Liston offers some examples to put the proposed PM2.5 emissions into perspective:

  • permits for some of the local sawmills are at about 270-tonnes, the community energy plant would be one-tonne
  • "A woodstove produced before the 1990s, which we have a lot of those in homes in Prince George, creates about 2.5-kilograms over three to four days.  The Community Energy System is going to produce 2.5-kg in a day."
  • "Our system is going to use about 4,000-tones of biomass a year.  If that same amount, which in a lot of cases happens, is open burned in Prince George or in the region, it produces about 56-tonnes."

PACHA is also concerned about any corresponding increase in truck traffic to the facility and, while Layte Liston says there are no specific numbers in terms of emissions right now, she says it has been looked at and it’s expected to be a minimal amount.  She says it’s expected a B-train of biomass waste will be trucked to the plant every three or four days.  "And, generally, that same transportation would be trucking it up to the landfill, so we will not be increasing what is already existing and we’ll probably be decreasing it."


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I would like to urge PACHA to start a petition to stop this project.
why do the politicians say these projects definitely have a green light

without mentioning they will go ahead IF the environmental assessment project shows this project will not have detrimental effects to our air shed?

(Mayor Kinsley, John Rustad, Jay Hill -- according to prior media coverage)
This thing should be a non-starter.

(1) It is not needed and provides no actual benefits. The cost of the project would pay for electric heat for years to come $9 Million.

(2) Is all about spending the money and giving out contracts.

(3) It is located just below a church, and a residential area that contains some historic homes. The Spurr home which a present is a BB and built in the 1940's. The prevailing winds are South and all the pollution would fall in that area.

(4) What about noise pollution.

(5) Dont forget the City wants to run a road through lower Patricia to 1st Avenue , then an overpass to (supposedly) accomodate the increase in container traffic that may never materialize.

(5) There is talk of expanding the project in the future. What would be the future effects.

(6) This Mayor and Council spend most of their time trying to get money from other levels of Government and then match the funds.. This is what we have here. Available money with strings attached, and then we come up with a stupid project to get the funds, and to hell with common sense.

This kind of BS has to stop and this project would be a perfect vehicle to send a message to the Mayor,City Council, and Staff, that it is time to **Grow Up**

To continue. We should be working with all levels of Government to build a biomass co-generation plant, and this plant should be located close to the source of this material. Ie: Vanderhoof, Dunkley, or South of the BC Rail Industrial park. (Around Carrier Lumber) similiar to the one built in Williams Lake.

The power would go to Hydro with a sell back cheaper arrangement.

It should never under any circumstances be built in the bowl area.

The City wants it within City limit s so that they control the project, and the money, and it appears that they could care less about any other concerns.
The best option is to keep it out of the bowl, as Palopu and others suggest and to keep it away from residential areas such as the Millar, including all those people who are supposed to be moving into the downtown over the lifetime of such a plant.

With any project such as this one would have to measure at least the following:

1. total change of point sources emissions in all categories
2. local impact (immediate vicinity) of point sources change of emissions
3. the same as 1 & 2 for fugitive sources and mobile transportation sources
4. total net change in operating cost including break even analysis for various fuel cost change scenarios expected in the future
5. flexibility of switching fuels to offset potential price changes
6. cost of new infrastructure brought in as an amortized value over the expected lifetime of the facility – 25-30 years?

I was under the impression that the City had received some money from the Feds to do this sort of planning some time ago. Am I imagining this? If not, what was that money for and what was it spent on?
"This Mayor and Council spend most of their time trying to get money from other levels of Government and then match the funds ....and then we come up with a stupid project to get the funds, and to hell with common sense."

I agree 100% - it is all about them being able to make the community believe that they are always accomplishing something, at any cost (even if it means more borrowing!) and then run for re-election.

This downtown power projects stinks - literally. It is a stupid idea and totally against what the air shed requires - LESS pollution, not MORE! Is anybody going to take a deep breath and reconsider???

Not very likely, in my humble opinion.

The IDEA itself is fine in principal,but why in hell would they put this downtown??
I am also amazed that these politicians would step up and support it so quickly!
Do these people ever think about anything except photo ops and glory?
Maybe they need to be seriously looked at as well as PG's city council, because this is one of the dumbest plans I have heard of in a while!!
No way this one will fly!
Is the property on the flood plain map? Are they gonna build it on stilts? Ya never know. Doncha just love these done deals? Talk isn't cheap. Just do it!
How about a Peoples Action Committee for Lower Taxes and more Wisdom at City Hall? I'd join that.
"It should never under any circumstances be built in the bowl area"

Absolutely agree. One has to wonder if everyone at the City has been hibernating for the last 2 years. How the hell do they expect to solve the problem if they are not willing to lead on the issue?
What an absolute waste of money. A "B" train of fuel every 3 or 4 days. Seen many of these going to the land fill site lately? What about fuel preparation costs and the related noise and pollution involved. This is not going to be clean white wood with a low ash content. Where does the heat go in the summer. This is a hot water system so generating power even using an organic rankine cycle is totally inefficient.
As for revenues in excess of $600,000.00 per year and operating costs of less than $400,000.00. Do the math...city council....
This project needs to be stopped now before our taxes go up even more to pay for this screw up. Concentrate on the potholes and sweeping the streets in the BCR then move on to more challenging items.
To leave a legacy such as this ill-conceived polluting power plant in the downtown wouldn't be my priority if I was a mayor or on city council and about to step down or not be re-elected.

It stinks.
Not to mention what are the affects on the city budget when the new Carbon Tax is implemented???? That question alone was enough to stop the plan to build a coal fired lime kiln at Eaglet Lake.
I thought the current levels of particulate were already too high. Doesn't really matter how efficient this system is, it is going to add to the current levels.

I can't see how this will fly when we already have the reputation of some of the worst air quality in the country. Chester
Hill, Rustad, Bell, Bond and Kinsley were at the funding announcement *ceremony.*

It's Kinsley's project so he is informed about the ramifications of additional downtown air pollution.

As for the others - how much or how little they know is not public knowledge.
So thats who was in that picture. I thought it was John Wayne, The Three Amigo's, and Hop Along Cassidy.
Andyfreeze. They want to locate in on 5th and Scotia St., because thats as close as they can get to the Courthouse, The Government buildings,City Hall, Colisium, Library, Swimming Pool,City Purchasing Dept., etc; these are all buildings that are close and therefore would require less underground piping etc; and of course they are all taxpayer funded buildings, and we can pick up the tab.

Another reason is they bought the old Williams Moving and Storage property a number of years ago just for this purpose.This property is located? Right, between 4th and 5th and Scotia St.
ILL WINDS CONTINUE TO BLOW AT CITY HALL. IF PRIVATE ENTERPRISE PLANED THIS PROJECT IT WOULDN'T GET OFF THE DRAWING BOARD. IT WILL BE INTERESTING COME NOVEMBER ELECTION TIME.