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Green,Green, Green, That's The Provincial Budget

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 03:00 PM

      

The Finance Minister Carole Taylor has presented her 2008 budget, and it is green, green, green.

She says it is a balanced budget and this budget asks the question what kind of legacy do we really want to leave for future generations?

She says the Province has reached a turning point, and the budget presented today will confront and overturn the notion  you have to choose  the environment  or  a strong economy. “That simply is not the case”

It will start with a carbon tax on fuels.  Effective July 1st,  you will pay an extra 2.4 cents per liter on gas, and  2.8 cents a liter on diesel or home heating fuel.

There will be a reduction of 5% on personal income tax on first 70 thousand dollars of income, meaning a family with $70 thousand dollar income will save $2,000 a year in taxes.

For business, there will be reductions in the general corporate income tax rate.  It will drop from 12 to11 % and over three years will go to 10%.

Small businesses will also see a tax break.  Effective July first, the small business rate will be 3.5% down from the previous 4.5% and by 2011 it will be 2.5%.

There will also be support for lower income earners.    A new   $100 dollar per adult, $30 dollars per child that will be sent to low income earners along with the GST rebates.

Every man woman and child in B.C. will get an up front payment of $100 dollars. The cheques will be sent out in June and come from the surplus from the year just ended.  The cheques to come before the new carbon tax takes effect July 1st.

The Finance Minister figures the average family will spend about $45 dollars in 2008 in carbon taxes.  According to Taylor, the family will still come out ahead of the money paid in carbon taxes.

The provincial sales tax will be reduced on vehicles which qualify for the federal eco-rebate. That could mean a savings of up to four thousand dollars.

There won’t be any PST collected on fridges, freezers or insulation   to reduce energy use.

We are not completely insulated from the world around us.  The growth  for 2008 is expected to be 2.4%  which will still be higher than the rates set for the rest of the country but down from the  3%  growth  mark  registered in 2007.

.With that in mind, Taylor says it is time to be prudent, with setting aside $1 billion dollars as a shock absorber in the event the situation in the United States should   further deteriorate.

There will be educational tax relief for major industrial properties   saving B.C. industry $24 million dollars as they will pay the same rate as commercial operations.,

More money for geo technical research for mountain pine beetle devastated areas. 

$50 million to Genome B.C.  for research on issues related to climate change.

There  will be tax breaks for  film and television productions  outside the Vancouver and Vancouver Island areas, and  a dropping of the  capital tax for financial institutions.

When it comes to health care,  there will be a new $300 million dollar transformation fund.   Two thirds of all new spending over the next two years will go to health care.  That is nearly $3 billion that will go into health budgets.

On Education,  there will be more dollars per student  and there will be more funding for strong start prgrams so children can  enter kindergarten ready to learn.

  
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"Green,Green, Green," Is that green in the form of $20 dollar bills? Sure looks that way.

-Hmm not as scary as i thought it would be. What do you guys think?
The carbon tax is nothing more than a money grab but,you can be sure,they WILL need money at the rate they are spending it.
If you read between the lines,the government IS expecting a downturn in the economy,but then most of us are!
I do NOT agree with the carbon tax and as time goes on,neither will anyone else.
I could have grudgingly lived with this tax on gas and diesel, but there is no excuse for putting it on the fuel we use to heat our homes.
That just stinks for low income families in particular,and should not be tolerated!
We just got shafted by the B.C.Liberals again, and when the big bill comes due in a couple of years,we are really going to be pissed!
Any time I hear of cash payments to every citizen, "just out of the blue", I think of the time that Dosanjh and the NDP tried to buy an election by spending out all of ICBC's cash reserves (which they are now rebuilding, since raising the rates, and the raised rates were a very big part of that) by sending out artificial policy rebates.

I don't feel that mass mailings of cash to every citizen by the governing body is appropriate in any case. Instead, send it to the people that need it most. I don't need a $100 cheque, it doesn't make a difference in my day, let alone my life, but it could be a big help to somebody else.

Gordon Campbell Direct - "Save Your Money"
Yeah im not too impressed with the carbon tax also..
Here is the full details.

http://www.bcbudget.gov.bc.ca/2008/slides/default.htm
The environment or a strong economy?

What a bullsh**er. She is leaving government because she knows the provincial ship is sinking. Did she not already have a new conference on how the economy of BC was shrinking due to its largest contributor (forestry) shrinking as well? The government realises it will no longer be able to reap the rewards from its natural resources so it's reverting to other means to gain capital.

The so called turning point occurred almost 10 yrs ago with the softwood tax and the genisis of the pine beetle problem - too bad. Now the olympics (which are a good thing in themselves) will unfortunately serve to bankrupt the province....since it's Gordo's highest priority...
Put everybody's $100 rebate towards the deficit. It would be a far greater move.

Also I am not sure I follow the claim that the average family making $70,000 / year will save $2,000 a year in taxes due to this 5% provincial tax rate cut.

If 5% = $2,000 then 100% would = $40,000?
There is no way that works out right?
This is a Liberal scam, and all it does is tell us that there is something very wrong in Victoria!
Exactly what that is will take a while to show up,but rest assured that there IS something haywire in the bookkeeping that we have not been told about!
This budget is an insult to the taxpayers of B.C.and we all need to protest this loud and long!
Campbell has to go, before he and his band of merry men put us so far in debt here in B.C.that we will never climb out!
Taylor's interview on B.C.T.V news at 5:00 was embarrassing,and even SHE looked embarrassed!
But then,she is deserting the ship!
And to tax heating fuel here in the north is a crime.They don't even know what long cold winters are down there in la la land!
Stick your $100 attempted buy off Gordo!
You just cost yourself on hell of a pile of votes in the next election!
so just to get it straight in my mind...
they are going to implement a carbon tax, then give us $100 bucks oh and reduce the income tax?????
Sounds like very creative bookkeeping to me....why even bother...leave it as it is and dole out from what we are already paying! Enough is Enough!
Can't wait till this poor excuse for a government is gone...nothing more than a tax grab, funny thing is "why" are we putting up with this CRAP.
"Can't wait till this poor excuse for a government is gone...nothing more than a tax grab, funny thing is "why" are we putting up with this CRAP"

Simple. The majority of voters in the Province support the way that they are governing.
This will be a big help to the long suffering forest indusry
They may not have the support of the majority at the next election at the rate they are going!
Keep screwing people over and they will eventually turn on you!
We can decide when to drive our cars, but we can't decide when to heat our homes.
So people in the north with longer and colder winters will be paying the most!
Once again the north will susidize the southern part of the province!
Cool!
This was a slimey budget!
The worst thing they can tax is heating fuel and every time they tax Gas and diesel guess what else goes up.EVERYTHING.What about old folks living on pensions.I guess they will have to get roommates in order to survive.You are right Andyfreeze the North will be paying the most due to our winters.Shame on Mr.Campbell.I hope he sleeps well knowing how many people he has put into the poor house since he got in power.
"They may not have the support of the majority at the next election at the rate they are going"

I somehow doubt that Andyfreeze. I imagine the vast majority of people in the Province do not rely on heating fuel for their homes, including people in the North. I would also hazard a guess that the people paying the most will be those people who drive allot. I have a hunch that the folks in the Lower Mainland doing these monster commute's each day will pay more in carbon taxes than the average person living in the North, even with our winters.


I still don't understand what is so green about this budget. Sounds more like Tokyo Rose to me.

Tell the idiot what you want him to believe, and say it over and over again. Soon, he will believe it.
If Andyfreeze is so opposed to the Liberals, with what in Gods name does he propose to replace them with? It wasn't called the lost decade for nothing (NDP's 90's). Andyfreeze please enlighten us on Friday's free for all.
Taxing heating fuel is a crime! But then again we know the Liberals are a bunch of crooks anyway. What ever happened to Bassi and the BCR scandle, Nothing! It's all being swept under he rug.
What is our alternative to the liberals? The NDP god I think I will stick with the Liberals thank-you very much.........
acrider54;

The NDP stealing from charities (Bingogate?) is way worse than anything the Liberals have ever done.

You are right "szd",what IS the alternative to the Liberals?
Right now,there isn't much to even consider, but that doesn't mean we just lay down and let Campbell and his gang have their way with us!
The tough part for us,is that the Liberals know that all too well.
But everytime we tolerate this hand in the pocket crap because we think there are no alternatives,they win another round!
To lump those here in the northern reaches of B.C.in with the lower mainland is a crime in itself.
Up here, we are in a completely different situation with longer and colder winters,higher costs in general, and all they have done is thumb their noses at us...again.
We are nothing more than a cash cow to them,and even now,the Liberals see the revenues coming out of the north declining from the forest industry.
They don't like that because there will be less to waste and with the way they are spending,they need money fast!
There is plenty of money, but they wasted it bigtime, building monuments to themselves.
They WILL break this province. and they are well on their way.
Take a look at the deficit now and what it was when the liberals came to power!
Carole Taylor knows when to run!
But as far as alternatives,it will depend on what the NDP does and says between now and the next election.
We really need a new party, but that won't help us now.
This is as good a time as any to see if the NDP have learned anything, or if Carole James really is the waste of time and money that she has been so far!
I am willing to listen to her, but she needs to step up and start doing something...fast!
And I have never voted NDP in my life!
But I do know one thing,I will NOT vote Liberal ever again, and I will start working right now to see that if they are not defeated,they are at least beaten to a pulp.
Some things are just morally wrong,and taxing the fuel people use to heat their homes is morally wrong,among other things.
Everytime we say "oh well,we have no other choices"they win and don't they know it!
The time WILL come when we will see just how badly we have been screwed over by Campbell and company but by then, the damage will be done.
The economy in B.C. is declining and it will get worse,much worse.
I am starting to fight back right now!
I use to be a card carrying member of the Liberal Party of B.C.,but a couple of years ago it started to stink just a bit too much and I mailed it back.
I will not be making that mistake again!
Dead people and prisoners gonna get a hunnert bucks each too? Betcha!
Uh so to be green they're taxing diesel..the less carbon polluter...the most???

Idiots! They should reduce it! Morons...

Pat Bell said not to worry truckers there is more fuel efficient engines out there??

I say WHAT? So the forest industry is suffering. You just increased their expenses and now you think they can afford to "upgrade" their trucks to more efficient engines??? Give your f'in head a shake. What fuel are they gonna use? You just taxed the hell outta diesel the best "green" fuel going. You know something the rest of us don't?
AND Biodiesel is still diesel. What spin. I'm dizzy with your senseless comments Bell et al.
I've said it before (and got flamed for it) but I will say it again.

Our gas is cheap by comparison to the rest of the world. As a result we don't treat the fuel resource as we should.

Look how many soccer moms are running around town in V-8 pickup trucks or SUV's etc? Silliness.

Look how many people warm their vehicle up for 20 minutes every morning only so they can drive 5 minutes to work....

Canadians by their nature love to complain about taxes. Consider this an opportunity. Want to pay less taxes?
WANNA STICK IT TO THE GOVERNMENT???
Drive a responsible car, less.


Reality, did I say anything about the NDP?
And while you're at it Reality, why don't you grab your bike and pedal your way to work or double your kids to hockey practise in mid winter.
acrider54;

I'll assume that wasn't a personal attack, and take the high road.

You were commenting that the Liberals were crooks. I responded that the alternative (the NDP) was worse.

I didn't suggest you or anyone else pedal their bike to work. If you want to great. For me, tough as I am 20km's to work. What I suggested was that around these parts, PG, Quesnel, WL, people drive a lot of large vehicles. I not some greeny who says you shouldn't be allowed to drive a vehicle like that but I do believe you give up your right to complain about fuel prices if one is to drive one of these behemoth's.

I think that realitysetsin's February 20 2008 12:35 PM comment hits the nail right on the head!

As long as people drive huge pickup trucks for pleasure use (non-commercial), warm them up for 20 minutes by idling (a most polluting and wasteful, harmful to the engine habit) they have really no credibility when they gripe about higher gasoline or diesel prices.

Andyfreeze: "This is as good a time as any to see if the NDP have learned anything, or if Carole James really is the waste of time and money that she has been so far!"

I take that as a suggestion by you to give the useless NDP another opportunity to do some more of its famous *social engineering* experiments on this long-suffering province - as if the dismal dark decade of the nineties did not prove once and for all how much damage can be done by a party that operates by theoretical principles only, totally forgetting that one can plug the golden goose to the point of no return.

There is no government more destructive than one that manipulates everything - against common sense - under the guise of doing it *for the good of the citizens.*

Count me out. The province is not run precisely the way I agree with, but it is actually in far better shape than I thought it would be in after being taken from number one province in Canada to dead last number ten, actually qualifying for have-not status and extra financial help from Ottawa.

How soon some people forget!
Oh, I haven't forgotten anything diplomat and for the most part, I agree with you completely!
I may have mentioned that I have never voted NDP in my life!(actually,I voted Social Credit for many years,before the Liberals)
And to be honest, I really don't know if I could EVER bring myself to vote for them simply to rub out the Liberals!
But I would be willing to listen even though I am not expecting much!
Options...give me options!!!
Anytime you have a government that doesn't have a hope of being defeated at the polls,you have an elected dictatorship in place and nothing more.
And that is very dangerous indeed.
That's how people the likes of Gordon Campbell,who by the way,was once an assistant to Vancouver ex-mayor Art Phillips,who by the way is married to Carole Taylor,who is the Liberal Finance Minister....anyway,you get the picture.
Cheers!
I think I know where you are coming from Andy.

Without a viable opposition any government is potentially very dangerous.
Somehow, Andyfreeze, I got the impression from your comments that you are actually entertaining the notion of voting NDP.

Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? Probably.

"Options...give me options!!!"

I can think of only one perfectly legal one:

It's called Recall.

Organize successful recall campaigns in enough ridings and your prayers will be answered - No more Gordon.

Cheers!
That's ok diplomat,I would probably make myself chew my arm off rather than mark the ballot next to NDP!
I just can't figure out what else we are going to do to break this Liberal strangle hold on B.C.
They are not in power because they are the best...they are in power because the other choices are not choices at all!
Ultimate power is a VERY dangerous thing and the Liberals are fast approaching that status!
That's why they just gave us a carbon tax...because they COULD!
And recall here in B.C. was designed by politicians not to work and it doesn't.
Never has, never will, that I know of!
Cheers!
The NDP brought in recall, remember? Glen Clarke said that rather than waiting for a full term after a poorly performing party has been elected the electorate deserves to have the option of recall if enough voters are inclined to make use of it.

I wonder why it was designed by the NDP "not to work and it doesn't."

I don't agree with your condemnation of just about everything the Liberals have done and what they are doing so I wouldn't be one to sign a recall petition.

On the other hand I readily admit that they are not the best we could ask for but they are better than the only alternative, in my opinion.

I did not agree with the decision to apply to host the Olympics, or the sale of BCRail and a couple of other things they did.

But in politics promises are cheap and yet the overall picture has been changed to a much more positive one if one looks around objectively.

And I am therefore willing to put up with some more poor decisions mixed in with the better ones.

The world is going green so if we don't do it now gradually it will come as a much bigger shock later on.

One way or the other it will happen. We may be in a better position because we got started on it earlier.

Think green - think positive.