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Friday Free For All - March 14th, 2008

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Friday, March 14, 2008 04:00 AM

Here we go again,  time for the Friday Free for All.

Your chance to  make comments on  your concerns, and if need be,  pass along a news tip  for something you think  should be followed, or  questions answered.

The rules are  always the same,  keep it clean, keep it legal, and no  bullying of other posters

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Good morning. Is spring on the way?
ROAD RAGE...what a cutsie term for inability or unwillingness to control ones temper or just plain bullying!
Drivers who can not control themselves should not have drivers licences.
Now that they have this cute phrase some seem to feel they have en excuse for their actions....
Wrong!
Run someone off the road, then shortly after return and run them over. RCMP charges: Murder in the first degree, 2 counts of attempted murder, hit and run, dangerous driving, perhaps impaired driving, the list goes on. Judges remark and sentence: Seeing as this is your first offense and I believe that you are in need of counselling, your penalty is 7 years.!!
If you can, try not to breathe today folks.

As an aside, why don't we consider implementing a system whereby industry has to curtail their operations when an air advisory is in effect? Perhaps the City should also endeavour to put less dirt on the roads. Wouldn't more plowing and more attentive driving on our parts help make this a plausible consideration?
I understand the pavement plant that applied to run in an open field area in Pineview will now be set up on airport property instead. So nothing happened by moving the plant one mile.

But we all loose and that's too bad. Everyone likes pavement and there was a rare opportunity for the RD to buy pavement for the local roads. Now that the plant will just be used for supplying pavement to the runway, there will be no pavement for our roads.

Nice going folks, good thing people have two feet, why not try shooting something else? They still have one foot left.

Nothing was accomplished, the plant will still run and worse yet there will be even more trucking involved on our roads.

"PG one of the worst city for crime" according to maclean's magazine
A quote from a local RCMP officer said"Prince George never seems to get on the radar for anything good, "It always seems to be the negatives that get us on the highlight"
...isn't that the truth.
Ever hear about the lack of service from CN. Companies are suffering enuf without CN messing them up by not delivering cars. Shouldn't there be a service level agreement?
Just to add to the road rage comments. How about slowing down? I live on a street where a park zone & school zone meet, but from the way people drive you would never know. It's not the usual suspects either,
it's the soccer mom with a Timmies in one
hand & a cell phone stuck in her ear; it's
the business dad late for his 4 martini lunch; it's the "N" drivers who have no sense of mortality for themselves or others & the worst...City bus drivers.
All seasons, all conditions it's pedal to the metal. Phoning & complaining get's zero results, the police just don't show up & our transit authority....well they play lip service to complaints but the busses keep speeding.
I suppose it will be the the usual, some poor child or adult will die & then all the hand wringing & finger pointing will
start. Let's all be proactive about this,
slow down in school & playground areas. That extra 10-20 km/h isn't really going to save any meaningful time but slowing down may save a life.
It's time for people of the North to quit being victims.

"gas is too high" "...pine beetle.." "the lumber sky is falling..." "..it's city council's fault..." Blah blah blah.

If we want a different result, we need to change our attitudes.
Why do people drive around at night with their aux. driving lights on in the city. Don't they realize how annoying it is to on comming traffic. I guess that is just part of the me me me generation. It could be also trying to make up for some physical inadiquacies I suppose.
Good for the people of Pineveiw that rejected the asphalt plant. A mile away is a mile away which is much different then next door.

Some people just dont seem to get it that its not the asphalt plant some much as in the manner that its operated in without polution control or noise reduction.

All we have to do is look back to the sixties when everyone was enthralled with the location of three pulp mills and a refinery in the City limits. We now find that these operations are killing some of us and affecting the health of our children.

After all the info that we have on the effects of our health by PM 2.5 the residents of Miller Addition have a battle on their hands to fight a group of mindless politicians to keep them from providing another source of polution in their community with the building of a bioenergy plant next door.

Lets hope that the people of Prince George wake up and realise that the bioenergy plant proposed by the City will not just effect The residence of Miller Additon but all of us in the City. It is time that we get out of the box and thought about other means of a livelyhood then just being hughers of wood and carriers of water.

Remember folks get out and support the resdints in the Miller Addition.

Cheers
Prince George's high crime rate. So PG ranks 4th highest in Canada for it's crime rate. Top 3 maybe not in this order...Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina. One would have to look at what these cities have in common????? It is pretty eay to figure out.
City Bus Drivers who allow there mate (wife,husband,boyfriend,girlfriend)to ride on the Bus standing right next to the them-talking,laughing and joking and drinking coffee out of spill cups when we the paying customer are told we can not bring our cups on board. These people take the drivers attention away from the road and the stops.There is one on Sunday that the male rides along almost all day.Bus Driver late to stops and missing stops.
Street sweepers should be working on days that the road is wet by rain.I have seen on rainy days sweepers not working BUT on a nice day they are out working with an extra truck out there wetting the road and getting paid for it.City could save money this way.
If we want a different result, we need to change our attitudes.

We need to change our politicians. We have the right attitude.

Mayor Kinsley.
Couculors;
Zuroski
Sethen Basserman
Krouse
Munoz
Skakun
Gratton
Scott

Be carefull on when it comes to the bionergy project. If you support it you will be toast this November. You have already put our City in exssesive debt and we dont need another pound of polution in our. The cup is empty.

Cheers
I agree Reality. It seems like the people on this site that "choose" to live here are the same ones that do nothing but bitch about the way things are here. If you chose to live in a small, remote, ice-bound town then you are probably gonna have to put up with things like potholes, higher fuel costs, podunk city councils & playing second fiddle to bigger cities.

And whinning on this site is NOT doing something, no one reads the comments on here save a few cranky old "meisnerites".
Zurowski
Sethen
Basserman
Krause
Munoz
Skakun
Gratton
Scott

Amazing how all of them at council meetings avoid an important touchy issue, like the particulates spewing planned bio-energy plant planned for the downtown!

The federal and provincial contributions were made publicly with great fanfare but without any attention given to the obvious health consequences, in my opinion.

Now everybody seems to be too proud to backtrack and admit that a mistake was made which will impact the health of the residents in the bowl area.

Dr. Hay made very valid professional points but it doesn't look as if anybody is going to pay the slightest attention.

Historically only determined citizen blockades of controversial projects (once under construction) ever get the attention of the *deciders* and sometimes even lead to cancellations or a complete rethink.






And who are we going to replace those politicians with? the 40 or so challengers? Oh, wait, we have to choose from the 40 or so challengers, splitting the anti-status quo vote and allowing the same-old same-old to continue doing the same old thing.

Take a look at the numbers - election results are posted at the city website - they show us that most of councilors don't get the vote of a majority of the vote, many by just 1/3. So we have most of the people NOT VOTING FOR ANY SITTING COUNCILLOR, election after election, yet the sitting councillors win.

The system (only being allowed to vote for 8) is flawed and forces this continued misrepresentation.

If voters were allowed to vote for as many or as few as they wanted, the systemic advantage the incumbents enjoy would be greatly reduced.

Maybe it's time to use the social medial technology and Digg-style voting to vet the challengers through community and make a recommendation before the election. A dynamic slate, if you will. I think I'll work on it.
TABOR LAKE algal bloom problems:

Largely due to a combination of the clay soil, substandard wastewater treatment systems, and shallow depth of the lake (max depth=9.2 m), algal blooms have been a problem for years in Tabor lake. This wastewater (in combination with Elodea Canadensis) has subsequently lowered the oxygen levels in the lake, resulting in the 1993 fishkill. Since the fish kill, a considerable amount of effort has been put in to cleaning up the lake however the problem still persists. I am not too familiar with the efforts of the Tabor lake clean-up Society, however I understand that they have made a considerable effort dispensing of aquatic weeds, among other things. The Regional District has been working hard to install community systems in Buckhorn, Bendixon, West lake, and possibly Willow River. They deserve credit for this. Perhaps upgrading the all of the wastewater treatment systems at Tabor lake to meet the current standards of the Sewerage system regulation or the Municipal sewage regulation should be next on the Radar.

I would like to see more focus in the media concerning our local lakes, and what we can do to help preserve them. Educating the general public can make a difference.
Posted by: Ragtop on March 14 2008 10:01 AM
Prince George's high crime rate. So PG ranks 4th highest in Canada for it's crime rate. Top 3 maybe not in this order...Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina. One would have to look at what these cities have in common????? It is pretty eay to figure out.



Ok, I give up.
What do these cities have in common with Prince George?
I agree with maritimer about more education of the public and more info about local lakes and the bad state some are in due to people. I cannot believe how green some lawns are that are right next to a lake. What! are they fertilizing? Do they know what harm they are doing?
I agree with maritimer about more education of the public and more info about local lakes and the bad state some are in due to people. I cannot believe how green some lawns are that are right next to a lake. What! are they fertilizing? Do they know what harm they are doing?
"Posted by: Ragtop on March 14 2008 10:01 AM
Prince George's high crime rate. So PG ranks 4th highest in Canada for it's crime rate. Top 3 maybe not in this order...Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina. One would have to look at what these cities have in common????? It is pretty eay to figure out..."

And Prince George.... hmmmm... all these cities have an n in their spelling, as in Native?
Not one family was 'saved,' but not one banker was left behind.

That should have been this weeks’ headline when Canada participated in the $200 Billion dollar bank bailout for the globalist profiteers.

I estimate this to be about $20 Billion in a monetary inflation tax on Canadians, so why is this not in the budget when it is in fact real dollars just taken through the back door? That’s a Mulroney $20 Billion dollar deficit IMO because we will eventually pay for this through the devaluation of our currency. This money was completely wasted covering for bankster crooks stealing retirement funds when the damage they did to our economy is already done and furthermore this money is a drop in the bucket compared to the larger market as evidenced by the markets since.

Consider this:
- Canadian GDP about $1.5 Trillion
- Canadian government debt $600 Billion’ish.
- World GDP for all nations $50 Trillion
- US GDP $15 Trillion
- Total Value of all the world’s real estate estimate at $75 Trillion
- Total value of worlds stock and bond markets $100 Trillion
- Bank of International Settlement valuation of world’s derivatives in 2002 $100 Trillion
- BIS 2007 valuation of world’s derivatives $516 Trillion
“Derivatives are the new ticking time bomb” – Market Watch, Paul Farrell

The derivative ($516 Trillion) are the hidden contracts hedging and betting on future events and backed up by public treasuries like the Bank of Canada and the US Federal Reserve.

So in effect all Canadians through our bank bailout aided the kind of loan-sharks that were "Steering," sub-prime loans with usurious kickers, fake inducements to over-borrow, called 'fraudulent conveyance' or 'predatory lending'. This is almost completely forbidden in the olden days and much more tightly controlled in Canada as opposed to the US, as nothing more than fancy loan-sharking.

But when the Bush administration took over, Countrywide (as the largest and best example) and its banking brethren were told to party hardy "it was OK now to steer'm, fake'm, charge'm and take'm." The housing equity bubble was on and so were GW’s political fortunes. Then the banksters were allowed to take all the junk mortgages about to become toilet paper and re-package them into ‘tranches’ of bonds which were stamped ‘AAA’ – top grade – by bond rating agencies. These gold painted turds were then sold as sparkling safe investments to retirement mutual fund investors and governments around the world.

When the housing bubble burst and the paint flaked off, investors (retirement RRSP’s ect) were left with the poop and the bankers were left with bonuses. Countrywide's top man, Angelo Mozilo, will 'earn' a $77 million buy-out bonus this year on top of the $656 million - over half a billion dollars he pulled in from 1998 through 2007. Meanwhile home owners in America are burning their homes rather then hand them over to these crooks (fuelling future softwood lumber demand)….

Canada’s solution was to participate in a $200 Billions dollar bankster bailout so that the banksters (enabled by US laws) are not accountable for their crimes on a massive scale that has ramifications for the whole world. I’d have rather seen the Canadian government spend that $20 Billion buying Americans back their homes than giving it to the international banksters… who now get the money and the home. The home burners are our long term allies not the international banksters IMO.
Fun Fact: Natives are Indigenous to Prince George
PS no coincidence that the currency devaluation of $20 billion dollars in Canada lasst week plays a large role in a barrel of oil going up to $111 dollars a barrel and gas jumping 10% at the pumps. It is directly related cause and effect and it is a direct tax in a sense on everyone of us that will eventually filter through to everything in the economy. Think of the banksters and their bailout next time you fuel up and ask why can our government do this and why can they do it without expensing it as a deficit cost in their budgets? Obviously it is not free money to those of us that work for a living....
TABOR LAKE algal bloom problems:

Largely due to a combination of the clay soil, substandard wastewater treatment systems, and shallow depth of the lake (max depth=9.2 m), algal blooms have been a problem for years in Tabor lake. This wastewater (in combination with Elodea Canadensis) has subsequently lowered the oxygen levels in the lake, resulting in the 1993 fishkill. Since the fish kill, a considerable amount of effort has been put in to cleaning up the lake however the problem still persists. I am not too familiar with the efforts of the Tabor lake clean-up Society, however I understand that they have made a considerable effort dispensing of aquatic weeds, among other things. The Regional District has been working hard to install community systems in Buckhorn, Bendixon, West lake, and possibly Willow River. They deserve credit for this. Perhaps upgrading the all of the wastewater treatment systems at Tabor lake to meet the current standards of the Sewerage system regulation or the Municipal sewage regulation should be next on the Radar.

I would like to see more focus in the media concerning our local lakes, and what we can do to help preserve them. Educating the general public can make a difference.
Will the carbon tax coming this summer be added on to the price of gasoline AFTER the GST is added on? Or will we be paying GST on the carbon tax? We already pay GST on the battery and tire environmental fees. A tax on a tax? Only in Canada, eh?
Junco asked, Ok, I give up.
What do these cities have in common with Prince George?

The answer, they all drink Molsons Ukrainian


Prince George will become the first city in BC and the second in Canada to become home to a volumetric scanner.

What the heck does this medical thing do??

I say...Kevin Brown for mayor.
OK HERE'S SOME POSITIVE!!!!

OMG! I have been completely wowed! I have just returned from a first time visit to East Side Mario's. Absolutely AMAZING! Great service, great food! My child was treated like royalty! There was no attitude from staff when requests made or change in order made. Prices are reasonable. They were VERY busy tonight but they did not rush you so they could have a table. We stayed for about an hour and a half. We were able to enjoy our meal, sip on wine, and have a relaxing friendly environment. IMO, Red Robin's, The Keg, and Boston Pizza will lose a lot of business to these folks! GREAT JOB EAST SIDE MARIO'S!!!

We will be back. AND, I will be reporting to my CNC Marketing class about your fantastic job. You have covered all the bases from what I experienced!

AGAIN--- WOW!

Good Grief. If someone thinks East Side Mario's is good cuisine and/or good service it's no wonder PG is regarded as a cultural backwater populated by a bunch of spineless whiny rednecks.

Kinda, sorta speaks volumes about CNC and it's programs...

Oh yeah, almost forgot. Thanks to Bubba, his big ass F250 and his ilk for not only killing me, but for bumping up the value of my oil stocks so that I can leave this hell hole 2 years (and minus one lung) before I'm 65.
tinyapplecork my husband knows the owner through soccer or something...he opened the doors to the guys late one night after a game and my husband also had nothing but good things to say but he's too cheap to take me and kids there so I wouldn't know......lol... Good to hear they are doing so well!


:)
heidi tell your husband the prices are comparable to Red Robin, Boston Pizza, and any other sit down restaurant. The service is fab! I hope you get to try it out... worth every penny.

zoopdingle, how you jump from attacking me and the college is flabbergasting! At least explain why you feel that way. Did you have a bad experience? Do tell. Otherwise, don't attack me. Thank you.
Boston Pizza has better pizza. IMHO Also their waiting staff are all top notch.

The stuff at Mario's(square pan)was not as good as the stuff I make at home. But hey, there is no accounting for other peoples taste, and if you liked it and thought it was great...then it was, and that's all that counts, right?

Boston Pizza has better pizza. IMHO Also their waiting staff are all top notch.

The stuff at Mario's(square pan)was not as good as the stuff I make at home. But hey, there is no accounting for other peoples taste, and if you liked it and thought it was great...then it was, and that's all that counts, right?

Can't comment on the pizza as this was not what we ate.
The pasta looked fab, will try some next time with my Molson Ukranian.
Nah i'll have a girls night out and leave him home with kids! Need some "Heidi Time!"

:) :) :) :) My sister inlaw is coming up for Spring Break and can't wait! Have a good Spring Break everyone!
I didn't care for Mario's either. The night we were there we waited for a long time to be served and then I really wasn't impressed with the food. Maybe it was a bad night??
When are they going to bring in the rest of the Statue of Liberty. I feel cheated having only part of it here .......

:-(

Remember the statue is from France. Why is the place called Mario's instead of Pierre's.

;-)