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Warm Water For DownTown Has the Same Smell As Warm Water For River Thaw

By Ben Meisner

Wednesday, April 02, 2008 03:45 AM

         

Perhaps it is just me, but have you noticed that any time a very contentious issue such as the Biomass community heating system comes before Council, those people who are there to express themselves about the project find themselves a long way down the list of items before Council?

Is this by design or is it simply just the way the agenda falls? I leave up to you. When you have an issue such as this coming before Council you should have the fore thought to make certain that you don’t have people sitting around on their hands for a few hours waiting to be heard. On a normal night you can fire a gun off at City Council without hitting anyone in the gallery. But then having that gallery sit on their hands for a few hours tends to take the steam out of them and I believe that in many cases this is a designed move.

The selling job on the biomass system has been, at best, a disaster. Trying at first to say that you are going to get people to turn their old wood stoves in and receive a $250 dollar grant on a new $2500 dollar stove is a joke, but it isn’t funny.

Using that as a sales job on the public suggests that someone over at the Hall just doesn’t get it.

Before you go out and try back door selling the idea of a Biomass heating system you had better make sure that it flies on its own merit. It hasn’t.

Mayor Colin Kinsley took a trip to look at a system in Finland and from there we have tripped over ourselves trying to grab some dough from the Feds and Province so it gets the go ahead without any real plan on how it will pay for itself, what the future holds in the acquisition of bio mass, and finally addressing the question of why private industry has not bought into the idea in the down town?

Long before we come with grandiose ideas of spending our money to address the air quality of this city, we had better have the guts and conviction to go after the real culprits. This City Council has shown, as Councils in the past,  that they don’t have the jam to go there. So we hang the air quality on the average home owner and look for them to carry the can.

The hot water system is reminiscent of the warm water treatment of the Nechako River, instead of dealing with the problem of the down town, someone comes forward with an idea that will do absolutely nothing to improve the down town and City Hall falls all over them in trying to promote it.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion


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Great article Ben!
I, too, have noticed a hot topic that fills the gallery is way down on the Agenda, I think it is by design. Sap the energy of the people and some will even leave as they have a heavy day and an early morning the next day. Not fair. When a hot issue comes up I think the public should receive courteous treatment from the Administration; in fact, I think the public should demand it. We are the ones who pay for administrations' salaries. Hope others feel the same.
On second thought, it may be unfair to judge administration? Could be a political decision?
Great comments Ben.. This is just another example of the lack of common sense and control at city hall. Hope we can change that at the next poll. This BIOMESS will not just affect the Millar Edition but all of the downtown bowl area. It must not be built in the bowl under any conditions. Article in the paper this morning states that P.G. has one of the worst air qualities in the province.. WHY OH WHY do you people at city hall continue down this rediculous path when all the statistics are there right in front of you. Keep up the presure people, the BIOMESS has to be squashed.
Foo738...Unfair my ass. It is administrations job to act on behalf of the people that are paying their saleries.
The Editorial in today's paper is another eye opener as well! I always suspected that the Cameron Street rebuilding issue would be arranged according to a political timetable and the upcoming November municipal election.

A $2.5 million dollar grant possibility is something that should be worth waiting for, in my humble opinion.
Good idea. Poor planning and execution (not to mention proposed location).
Right on! Back to the bridge, wrong location. 13,000 vehicles a day only adds to more pollution in the bowl airshed. I, too, think it is rigged for the election. It is pretty disgusting that the Council is thinking of re-election and not of the good of the community.

When Ben says "the jam to go there" I will bet it is the pulp mills eh? That does take jam, not to mention the pollution caused by the CN container cars going through town. Now that would take real jam to relocate them!
Great article Ben.
I already know the answer, as I asked you years ago, but damn you would have made a good mayor.
I do hope we get a largely new council, and a new mayor this next election.
Our Council operates from the top down and untill we get rid of some of them it will not change.

Notice the treatment we got from Basserman at the meeting on monday night. I felt like throwing eggs at him. He is one arrogant SOB. Lets hope he is gone come November. And the Mare is no better. He didnt turn on the mike at the rear of the gallery during the hearing for the airport industrial park when some of the taxpayers were talking that will be living next to the park.

We really need to stay organized for the fall election and get rid of these undesirables. We need a council that will govern from the bottom up. The function of a municipal government is to full fill the needs of the tax payer. It is then their duty to engage those proffessionals at City hall on how these need can be met . That is their job.

Once we are being told what we need we have a Cuba on our hands and we merrily become the providers of the funds for the system. And thats how it is working at the present time.It is time for change.

Cheers
aaah CUBA Si
Due to gas prices this year, our future candidates really can't justify tourism as a political cause this November. That leaves "downtown revitalization". Spend a few more million and make 4th Ave. look just like Third? Good luck. Methinks the incumbents are gonna spend most of their campaign (if they are dumb enough to run again) defending themselves and their rubber stamping decisions. Bio mess, Cameron St. bridge, the flooding river, the decision to build a berm/road, potholes that seem to be like an epidemic of smallpox in our town. Hizzoners travel penchant. And any more you can think of that I missed. Let us hope the great unwashed here in PG don't come down with collective amnesia a week or two before our November elections. Can any new person sincerely screw up any more than our current council? I think not. If they screw up, vote them out and keep voting in new people til we get the right ones.
"...potholes that seem to be like an epidemic of smallpox in our town."

It's more like a moonscape - fully cratered! Even on shorter trips my arms get tired from spinning the steering wheel this way and that way without hardly a rest!

One of these days somebody is going to call the cops on me thinking that I am driving totally impaired!
I am having trouble accepting why our City Council is so hell bent on this project. Could there be envelopes filled with fistfulls of sweaty money being passed under the table? There must be something in it for our Council and mare as they don't seem to want to listen to the people.
It seems like another case of "We've got the power" just like the warm water project. I did not put an X next to our current mare's name in the last two elections. Please people, let's change that position in the next election along with a bunch of the counsilors. They don't have the people of P.G.'s best interest in mind.
gardengirl, it's probably another case of *we have the power* but additionally the refusal to admit that this idea (being promoted for about 15 years now - it was supposed to be part of Third Avenue renewal and heat the sidewalks!) was a bad idea from the start! I know the Mayor and Council ate crow on the *RV parking at shopping centers* issue, but that is the only time I remember them backing off on something.

Why? Tremendous outside pressure. Perhaps if enough public and professional pressure is mounted in this *wood burner smokestack fly dust emitter* issue they will have to give up?
a trip to Finland gets us a bio mess
I believe the Mayor commented that the one he saw in Finland is located many kilometers from town and not in the downtown.

In Finland they think before they build something.
Just heard that River Road is the proposed site for the BIO project.

Now, how's that for a swift move?

By By to downtown, by by to reclaiming our river, by by to commonsense.

Where does it end?
"Where does it end"

Hopefully in that period between when this Biomess gets canned and after the bulk of council gets turfed in the next election.
It isn't just the PG city council per say.
Governments and politicians on ALL levels have lost the abiltiy and the desire to LISTEN to those who elected them.
Simply winning an election does NOT make someone a god of some sort, anymore than it makes them always right.
And unfortunately,we cannot afford for them to be wrong.
It does NOT give them the right to do as they please with taxpayers dollars.
Once a politician on any level loses the ability to listen to those who elected them,it's only a matter of time before it's over.
That's the beauty of democracy...or what is left of it!
I'm with you Andy