Double the lanes at Tim Hortons.

This is fine in the warmer months, but what about -25 and you have remote start.
I will certainly be using mine, instead of increasing hospital costs by getting pneumonia. We seniors, feel the cold, much more than a young person.
If the price of gas continues to rise we won't be able to afford the gas anyways.

Time the traffic lights down the bypass and the others around the city. That would have more effect than picking on drive throughs.

Start idling campaign? Heehee!

Seems an odd time of year to bother, most of the engine idling takes place in the winter. Maybe we could expand this to a campaign to have everyone reduce there natural gas concumption and greenhouse gases by turning off the heat in our green houses for 12 hours as well. Heehee!

Instead of idling I'll just drive around until I find a red light, shouldn't take long to find one on Queensway Street.

Totally agree scorpio. I too will be using my remote start in the winter & letting my truck warm up for at least 10 minutes. I have no intentions of turning my truck off when I'm idling, especially in the winter. Why don't they hit the big industry in this town, starting with the refinery instead of worrying about our vehicles. This is the north where it gets cold and we need warm vehicles especially for the elderly and the children.

I think cracking down on idling is a great idea. I think people take it a bit too literally. Idling at lights - that's kind of necessary. Warming your car up in -20 degree weather - also necessary. But what isn't necessary is going through drive throughs, dropping your child at daycare and not turning off your car. Even when it's -20 your car will not freeze up in 15 minutes or even a bit longer. This is about decreasing idling - not stopping it. When you grocery shop in very cold weather you see all kinds of cars idling in spruceland, you can barely breath, it's disgusting - turn your car off, it won't freeze up in an hour.

Does this include the locmotive's at CN's rail yards? They idle 24-7..

For years I have been warming my car up (when it's 30 below) in the following manner:

The electrical engine block heater and electrical interior heater are both on a timed outlet to come on a couple of hours before I plan to leave.

Result (without idling!): a warm car and a warm engine!

Idling an engine without any load on it is the fastest way to destroy it say all the experts.

And it stinks.

Typical. Go after the easy, safe targets. They must have taken a page from the rcmp training manual. As has been stated numerous times, there will be more pollution created, and more fuel wasted, by starting and stopping your engine say in a drive through line up. Not to mention the wear and tear on the vehicle.
metalman.

Yah gotta be a bunch of sissies to warm your car before riding at -20c and worse still my "truck". You have to be ritch if you can afford the fuel at todays cost. At -20c or colder a block heater works just great and even better on a timeer set for an hour or so.

I have to agree that industry needs a wakeup call when it comes to polution. If your worried about climate change check the artical by Professor Michael Piwirny at UBC Okanagan Campus and Im going to break a rule and give you his url www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7y.html

And dont forget to tell my wife about the new anti-idling regs. She just locked herself out of the car with the engine running.

Cheers

Anti idling just another feel good BS. The majority of wear on an engine is during start up when there is little or no oil film between the piston and cylinder walls. Now you have metal to metal contact = wear. But "long term" idling is also not good for the engine either unless the idle speed is increased. The biggest problem can happen to diesels at low speed idle, carbon buildup especially in the rings.

I have wondered about the engine wear in hybrids. The engine in these start and stop more frequently than a regular vehicle.

Too many rules, too many laws, too many taxes. Can I get an Amen, brother?

Maybe one day while you are walking to your car at Timmies and you blow across the top of yer hot coffee, maybe an RCMP officer will fine you for forcing more than average carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. That is to say, no more exhaling than necessary. They will tell you just to add a little cold water to yer coffee. Could happen.

Here's a thought, why do they make parking lots that require being funneled into a bottle neck to get to the main roads. I was recently at the CN centre trying to get to Ospika and sitting in a line up for 10 minutes. What a bizaar set up, funneling 4 parking areas through one exit.
This happens at every event held there.


They did the same thing at the new Royal Bank and liquor store at pine centre. Try picking up a bottle on a busy day and go through the rats maze they designed to get out.

diplomat.. right on the money. Let's just use some common sense about the amount of time we let our vehicles idle. Check out Costco parking lot any day of the week and you usually find a couple of diesel pick-ups idling way. They stink the whole place up.

"As has been stated numerous times, there will be more pollution created, and more fuel wasted, by starting and stopping your engine say in a drive through line up. Not to mention the wear and tear on the vehicle.
metalman."

Right on. The city can pass a bylaw which bans drive-throughs altogether. Or would that be politically incorrect and unwise considering that this is an election year?

Pass a bylaw that would make it an offense to elect a politician who does not have at least a two digit IQ. Priorities, folks. We are being "lawed" to death. Ban this. Fine people for that. Behavioral change thru extortion. Yes, I said extortion. It's in the dictionary.

Hey I remember the days when one could pull into the barn-Inn of the North- have a brew and guess whats parked in the lot, pickups with guns hanging in the back window. I bet that would blow the do gooders and cops minds if that happened today. The cops would show up with enough gear to support half the canadian army.

Amen harbinger.

cover the windshield to prevent ice buildup.
warm the vehicle for only enough to get the oil through the engine, and wear a temperature appropriate coat.
Problem solved.
Well except the folks in Sunny Warm all year Victoria, BC are making the laws for this province.
I propose we have the provincial capital moved to the hub of the north.
That way they (our MLA's) will be reminded whenever they are in session about the realities of living in BC.
Victoria does not represent the living conditions of most of BC.
Then maybe we will get some of the swag that tends to go to either Victoria or Vancouver.
hhmmm, maybe we should just change the name of our city to something that starts with a "V".

Amen harbinger.

I wonder how much the "Idle Lady Ambassidor" gets paid. Sounds like a slacker job to me if all she does is idle. Guess we have all the weiner roast fire smoke and road dust cleaned up so now it time for idlers. I figure by about 2050 we may get around to the real industrial cause of our polution.

yup AMEN!

Guess we should haul out the dog teams and dust off the sleds! Then we'll only have to be concerned with the poop scoop enforcement and muzzlers! heehee