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We All Should Be Ashamed At What We Have Done To The Salmon Fishery

By Ben Meisner

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 03:45 AM

When the Federal Fisheries suggest that this could be one of the worst years on record for returns of Sockeye salmon and many other species on the west coast of BC, I can’t help but shrug my shoulders.

When I first came to this province I was awe struck by the size of some of the fish. Spring salmon that reached 70lbs just boggled my mind. I became very interested in the resource because I thought how important it was to try and retain it. I couldn’t believe that a fish 1 inch long could head out to sea, travel much of the world’s oceans and then return to exactly the river at which it was born. I still marvel at what Mother Nature has created.

I took off 19 months of work in the early 80’s to try and persuade government that the Kemano completion would mean a serious decline in the Sockeye stocks that travel the upper Fraser. I was labeled as basically stupid, how a lay person could even suggest that. Perhaps the difference between the others and myself is that I cared and still do, but to a lesser extent.

When I first came to Prince George there was one Federal Fishery officer for the region. Now we have a flotilla of them and the resource continues to die.

A couple of years ago I stopped at a road check on my way to run up as far as I could on the Skeena River with my friend Doc. On the way there , we encountered a road block and I watched in horror as an Albertan was getting a ticket for an old pink salmon  that he had thought was a spring. He had carefully packed the fish on ice, and trust me, this was no bright, fresh Pink, but rather and old, “humpy”.

Going up the Skeena,  I counted 87 nets, some right across the Skeena, numerous ones had fish in them that were very old. I phoned the Feds from my satellite phone, no one came up the river to check.  The Fish cops were still on the road block.  On the way home,  I saw  them getting those same Albertans who would dare take a pink thinking it was a spring , not a thing had happened. We had given that Pesky Albertan a ticket, while the Federal Government stood idly by and did nothing about the bigger picture.

I know that the Fed's are powerless to do much, they stand around with their hands in their pockets and they do have families to feed, but the salmon cry out for our help and we do nothing about it.

Oh we run out here and there and give someone a ticket for fishing with a barbed hook, when right beside them, fish are being removed in large quantities from the river without any regard for the number or the affect on the future runs.

We don’t have to look very far to see who is responsible, all of us, we who sit around and watch the carnage take place, those fishermen of the high seas who pillage the resource so that they can get rich in the near future, and indeed the aboriginal population who while they may have title and right for ceremonial and sustenance purposes, take a resource that is dying before us. The sport fishermen is tossed a bone, He can keep maybe one, or none, but he retains the right to be there, sold out for a couple of days fishing without looking at the bigger picture.

I have watched, I have fought and now I am watching what I kept preaching for the past 35 years. We can blame global warming, we can blame , aboriginal fishing, we can blame the drift nets from the high seas, in the end it is man who has taken this precious resource and destroyed it , you and I and all of us collectively.

We should be ashamed of ourselves.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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I agree 100% with everything you said today Ben. I just can not agree with using nets to fish Salmon whether native or not.

Maybe the natives should feel some shame for their historical practice of committing genocide to this natural resource through their lack of accountability for their actions.

Maybe Pat (fish farm lover) Bell should learn about virtue and do what is right and stop the fish farms from open net farming on our coast. As Agriculture Minister his salmon policy is going the same way as his economic policy is for his constituents.
Its to bad we can't comment on the Arthur Andersen is Accenture story.

Clearly when Accenture was incorporated by the top management at Arthur Andersen as a separate entity... that was done so that advice could be given on how to do a reciprocal transaction and account for it as revenue in full up front, while amortizing the cost over 40 years, so as to manipulate the income statements of public companies.

360 Networks does a $1.6 billion dollar reciprocal transaction for fiber optic data service with Global Crossing a single day before cut off for the quarter... so as to meet quarterly expectations is fraud and was the other side of the same trick used by Enron (only with energy), and so it was wide spread and upper management at Arthur Andersen destroyed many companies and many shareholders as a result.

Cleaver definitions allowed Accenture to give bad advice and have no responsibility for that advice because it was their audit (Arthur Andersen) firm and the audit firm's shareholders whom they worked for that would take the fall. Legally Accenture is separate from Arthur Andersen, but only because the laws of incorporation say so, not because the principles of Accenture have clean hands IMO.

360 Networks by the way was a BC company that lost $24 billion in market capitalization as a result of the transaction noted above costing BC huge in reputation as a place to invest because as Pat Bell liked to say "we were elected to deregulate and not regulate" therefor BC Securities Commission would look the other way.
Good post Ben,and right on the money!
Unfortunately it seems no one is willing listen until it is too late!
I would like to see the fishery closed for at least 3-4 years minumum,and yes,I do understand the implications that would have on all concerned,including first nations and commercial fisherman.
The end result for continuing at the pace we are going is terrifying, and almost beyond comprehension.
Born and raised in and around the industry on the B.C.coast in the 50's,I still remember the waste and the greed first hand.
Who would have thought it would ever come to this back then.
Sickening.

If you think it is bad right now, just wait until the Atlantic salmon start to escape from the pens and migrate into the rivers. They will take over the systems. There has already been some sightings of these fish in the rivers. This is a disaster waiting to happen. WAKE UP PAT BELL and quit sucking up to the fish farms.
Sorry folks fish farming has no effect on the salmon runs. The pinks on the coast have generaly increased while the farms have been on site. The biggest run of pinks ever occured while the farms are in operation. As for escaped farmed salmon taking over systems, there has been no evidence of that. Around 1900, millions of atlantics where released on the coast in the hopes of increasing fishing. They all died off, never took hold. Do some basic research on the internet, lots of good information there.

Overfishing, driftnets, logging, pollution are all having their effects.
Seamutt: Why don't you do some basic research on the effect that the farms have on the young salmon passing the pens. the sea lice are killing them. And that is a fact. As for the Atlantics taking hold in our systems, it's only a matter of time.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/06/16/condemned-lakes.html
Well said Ben! If what we have done over the last 30+ years to the salmon industry isn't enough, check out the link for what is planned for 16 lakes across Canada, lakes in BC include: Kutcho Creek - Andrea Creek.
Ruby Creek - Ruby Creek watershed.
Prosperity - Fish Lake. Red Chris.
Mount Milligan.
As well we could also through in the passing of the Tsawwassen Treaty and the allocation of salmon to this band, makes me sick. Again, one man, MP John Cummins stood alone in the HoC to voice his objections, which fell on deaf ears. John has been fighting for the fishing industry for years and no one is listening, not even the members of his own party! Which includes your local MP.....

Two comments: 1st. Ben you are correct in some aspects, You cannot put the blame solely on the fishers of any kind. Yes there are some gready ones and some not both aboriginals and non, sporties and commercial. Fisheries have had their heads up their as...es for many years so much so that the federal goverment has been making it so difficult for any fishers to make a living that they are squeezing out all "license buyer fishers".

2nd. Sea lice ARE killing the pinks. PROVEN FACT All you have to do is go to the Broughton Archipelago... talk to anyone there, including the natives, whites, biologists etc. and you will see, they all agree. Atlantic Salmon... all I have to say is... a dog is walking on the dock.. comes across a dead atlantic salmon.. what does he do?? No he doesn't eat it.. he lifts his leg and pees on it. Does that say anything to you?? And yes seamutt, they are exisiting and populating in our waters
Ok seamutt, no evidence that the farmed salmon are effecting wild stocks. While I disagree completely with this statement there was also no evidence that hydro-electic damns will destroy fish habitat and for that matter there was no evidence that smoking caused cancer, that is until it was obvious to everyone, and then it was too late. So wake up.

We shold close all fishing except sportfishing and then make that 100% catch and release only. The sports fishermen are the ones that buy the licences spend the money anyway, while the hillbillies keep every fish they catch and dont even bother buying a licence. And why should they? I fish Hart and Dragon Lake all the time and I have never had my licence checked except for one time on the Copper River near Smithers. Start checking more licences, especially at Dragon with all the non-residents that fish there.
Ok seamutt, no evidence that the farmed salmon are effecting wild stocks. While I disagree completely with this statement there was also no evidence that hydro-electic damns will destroy fish habitat and for that matter there was no evidence that smoking caused cancer, that is until it was obvious to everyone, and then it was too late. So wake up.

We shold close all fishing except sportfishing and then make that 100% catch and release only. The sports fishermen are the ones that buy the licences spend the money anyway, while the hillbillies keep every fish they catch and dont even bother buying a licence. And why should they? I fish Hart and Dragon Lake all the time and I have never had my licence checked except for one time on the Copper River near Smithers. Start checking more licences, especially at Dragon with all the non-residents that fish there.
Well said, Ben, and right on the money. Most of us, I think, notice these things happening, but shrug and say' nothing I can do' The various governments seem bent on pandering to Indian Bands these days, which in the case of the (river) fishery, is making a bad situation worse. The Indian bands themselves must know what is happening, why do they insist on retaining their ceremonial/sustenance rights? I am not, and cannot, speak for all Indians, but from what we hear on the news, there is no stopping them if they decide to take 'their' fish. Isn't that shortsighted? If the entire fishery is not controlled, maybe one day there will not be ANY fish for anyone to catch in the river. Ben, do not blame the common man, unless for our failure to rise up and protest against the lack of management of the salmon fishery, and why stop there? The guvvies have always mishandled important matters like this because they spend most of their energy on spin control and re-election plans. Like delaying announcements until the wind is blowing in the right direction. Or, conversely, announcing funding for things like assistance for people during the great forest fires of 2003 that never seems to come through for some reason, oh, I know, the announcements are made at these opportune times to gain political capital.
Meanwhile time is lost on important issues.
metalman.
And don't forget to ban the JETBOATS killing the salmon fry by the thousands upon thousands without regard for the resource and the future.
Jim13135, you got any evidence to back upo your incredible statement?
metalman.
You are right on the money with this one Ben. It is a shame what has happened and the lack of backbone from our "leaders" deplorable.
Wow! Jet boats killing salmon by the thousands. Let’s see the jet boat uses about the top three or four inches of water. A prop uses , Oh let’s say 24 inches and has a blade turning exposed to the elements. Seeing as how propeller driven boats have been around for 50 years, they must come equipped with a fish scaring device of some kind, or maybe the fish just move out of the way when they see them coming. What about at sea, all of those big ships with props passing by those little salmon, they must be killing fish by the thousands as well or maybe those fish also just move out of the way
I say if jet boats kill fish then they must as be responsible for global warming.
I would be suprised if jet boats had no impact on fish, especially when you are running a boat in shallow headwaters. They have to stir things up down there a bit. You cant compare it to oceans and lakes because the whole point of a jet boat like an ali-craft is to be able to go in a few inches of water. Not alot of room for fish between the boat and the bottom.

That beeing said I have always wanted a jet boat for fishing, so I dont actually want them banned, but we should be aware of the issue.

Maybe that was just an attack on Ben, who used to keep a jet boat on the nechako at his place.
John Cummins is a convicted criminal for taking part in a illegal fishery. Don't try to portray him as a hero for the fish.

Chuck Cadman he definitely isn't or ever will be.

http://thetyee.ca/electioncentral/2006/01/13/stolo-use-zeisman-to-smack-cummins/

Howrd: Maybe you should check your facts. The reason John Cummins took part in the illegal fishing was to protest against what the natives were doing re: the river net fishing, and the native commercial salmon allocations. John has been one of the very few MP that continue to speak out regarding the sad state of our fishery resources. I wish you could hear his stories about going up the river with DFO, by Chilliwack, being met by natives with faces covered and rifles.
"New conclusive study: Fish farm sea lice kills wild salmon fry.

Study says up to 95 percent of wild juvenile salmon that migrate past B.C. fish farms die as a result of sea lice infestation."

"Every time one of us publishes on this issue, the Canadian government finds a little loophole and runs with it," she said. "First they said maybe it's not coming from the farms. When we nailed that one down, they said maybe they don't kill the fish. When we nailed that one down they said maybe they don't kill to affect the population" the AP reports."

http://www.alaskareport.com/news11054.htm

Also, another article stated that high powered motors push the salmon fry up onto the banks where they later die like Jim13135 suggested.
MaryM perhaps you should check your facts. JOhn Cummins is a racist simple and plain and has a vendetta against Aboriginal people that stretches beyond fisheries.

He broke the law knowingly. That makes him a criminal.

Good write up Ben! It would do a lot for our salmon if the Feds actually DID something instead of "picking on" the little guy.
Fish flavoured tofu sticks. Yum Yum. Just wait.
Harbinger you made me laugh in a shameful way but I bet you're right!
I read a while back somewhere that one day only rich people will be able to afford to eat fish. You heard it here first.
"We all should be ashamed at we have done to the salmon fishery?" Yeah, right! Don't lay a guilt trip on me, pal! Maybe I should be "ashamed" of myself for buying my fish at highway robbery prices at the supermarket rather than having the opportunity or wherewithal to purchase a salmon dirt cheap from a First Nations fisherman. Silly me. But I'm not ashamed. I don't even sport fish. So there! Nyah!
Posted by: seamutt on June 18 2008 7:41 AM
Sorry folks fish farming has no effect on the salmon runs. The pinks on the coast have generaly increased while the farms have been on site. The biggest run of pinks ever occured while the farms are in operation. As for escaped farmed salmon taking over systems, there has been no evidence of that. Around 1900, millions of atlantics where released on the coast in the hopes of increasing fishing. They all died off, never took hold. Do some basic research on the internet, lots of good information there.

Overfishing, driftnets, logging, pollution are all having their effects.


Seamutt you are obviously so clueless about the fishfarming fiasco on our coast that you should just refrain from posting your nonsense here regarding this subject. What you post here is the exact opposite of what is really happening in the real world my friend.

Very obvious you have a connection of some type to fishfarming because you are constantly denying that it is having any effect on our wild salmon and you are unable to provide any proof of your pitiful satements.

When you become rich beyond your wildest dreams due to your investments in this despicable industy and our precious wild salmon are all gone please email me your address and I will gladly drop by and buy you a beer.
You are a classic case of someone that only cares about their own personal gain.



Posted by: giterdun on June 18 2008 7:49 AM
Seamutt: Why don't you do some basic research on the effect that the farms have on the young salmon passing the pens. the sea lice are killing them. And that is a fact. As for the Atlantics taking hold in our systems, it's only a matter of time.

Giterdun I have said this same thing to this fishfarmer in the past and it's pointless to even acknowledge the Mutt's existance. He supplies typical BS replies to this subject and is part of the coverup.

Posted by: Jim13135 on June 18 2008 9:14 AM
And don't forget to ban the JETBOATS killing the salmon fry by the thousands upon thousands without regard for the resource and the future.

Yes big jim where's your proof of that statement

Nets are not traditional native fishing methods and should be banned as should all commercial salmon fishing using nets.

Open netpen fish farms are killing off our wild salmon stocks. They have destroyed salmon stocks in Norway and other parts of mthe world, there is solid proof of that. It is in fact Norweigen companies that are using our waters to farm their toxic farmed fish for their own profits. These people make me sick.
Our government is allowing foreign countries to destroy our wild stocks.
Lawsuits need to be brought against all that threaten our wild fish including goverment officials. They are allowing the destruction of our fish for somebodies personal gain.

Total BS
So running the jet boat washes the fry up onto the banks of the streams? Weird. I have never seen that happen (maybe it did once somewhere)The suggestion sounds theoretically possible, but it would have to be a very shallow, narrow stream I would think. My belief is that the fish, even the young ones can 'hear' us coming from the proverbial 'mile away' be it a prop or a jet propulsion craft. No one in a boat is travelling at the speed of light so can we really sneak up on the fishies and wash them ashore? I doubt it.
metalman.
I have seen tugs on the lower Fraser pass by and in their wake there has been the odd fry washed up on the beach, the odd fry. Never thousands.
I have seen the tide going out on the ocean that has left the odd fry wiggling on the beach, but never thousands.
Posted by: Howrd_B_Stern on June 18 2008 3:04 PM
MaryM perhaps you should check your facts. JOhn Cummins is a racist simple and plain and has a vendetta against Aboriginal people that stretches beyond fisheries.

He broke the law knowingly. That makes him a criminal.


Total BS stern
The bottom line is:

It comes down to POOR MANAGEMENT! Ya know like we have seen in the recent past with our PG taxdollars. Too much bureaucracy; lack of communication; lack of cooperation; and worse still lack of VISION.

Fish farms could work alongside wild but the lack of foresight is what is causing problems. Those farms never should have been built where they are now. They should be completely self contained away from our watersheds.
Our wild fish stocks would be better off too if hatcheries weren't considered to be fair game when the budget was slashed. We need them back. And it does seem utterly ridiculous to nail a tourist for the wrong fish...but as an angler wouldn't one know better? Does it really matter if the fish is old? I have always been dead set against driftnets...sorry traditional native fishermen...give the poor little fishies (and big ones) a chance to escape!