I agree. This is something that concerns me as well. Other communities are much more proactive in their school zones. PG really needs to get on board with enforcing all school zones in the city.

Please correct me if I am wrong. I do not live in the Glenview area, but I heard that the blockade that was put up was a blockade of children holding hands. I think that is why the parents were angry. I am sure everyone supports your efforts to reduce speed in your area, without putting children directly in harm's way.

Let us do what ever it takes to acomplish this man's goal. There are damned good reasons for the 30 km/h speed zones around schools and playgrounds. If only ALL of us could remember to plan ahead, leave earlier, think, then all of us would drive slower, not just in school zones but everywhere in the city. This next suggestion would be a real pain in the a$$ but how about some silent policemen (big honking speed bumps) They annoy everybody, and cause problems with snow removal, but they would be effective.
metalman.

He is right about kids being able to survive slow speed impact. I still will not drive by PGSSS as I have seen the Dodo birds that attend there bounce off my truck. One large lout turned around and stepped off the curb and right into my truck, fortunately I was already past him. But he did get struck by the sled deck in the shoulder and went reeling back into the rest of the pigeons. There are so many of these idiots out there looking for a Darwin Award that the only thing you can do is slowly plow through and let the really dumb ones bounce off the truck.

Maybe Cork could get onboard with educating these pigeons about how dangerous cars and trucks are even at slow speeds?

Those wooden painted children they put on the road sure work, it's a wake up that you are in a school zone. I don't think people(most) don't purposely drive fast through school zones. They are deep in thought about work, kids, grief or whatever, and are not seeing the signs, but the child stand up sign they definitely see. I think parents volunteer to put them out and away?

Right on Paul!I also live in the same neighborhood,it's not only cars screaming down Dawson road,we get dirt bikes and quads thinking its some kind off road race track...Whats the old saying "its okay till somebody gets hurt".

You forgot the rest of that phrase. It's ok till someone gets hurt, then it becomes an Olympic sport.

Call me annoying, but I'm one of those people that drive 30 km through school zones, slow down when I see children and animals on the road, because I couldn't imagian being the driver that hits a child. How would you feel if that child jumps out in front of you and your going to fast to stop. Going to fast that you are going to kill that child. Cause lets face it, children do not always stop and look both ways. They chase there balls, animals, friends, lose control of there bikes, rollerblades, skateboards and end up in the road.

Think about the math. Your doing a steady 100 km down the road. Your buddy does a steady 90km. you drive for exactly 1 hour and pull over. 6 minutes is all your buddy is going to lose to catch up doing 90. Now think about, ok possibly that 6 minutes could make a difference, but how much time do you think you will lose going 30 instead of 50? less than a minute. Your going to lose that time at a traffic light anyways, so why not just drive safe, not risk hitting that kid. That meeting can wait those 30 seconds.

Like metalman said, plan to leave 30 seconds earlier, then there is now reason why you need to speed.

Oh and for the record, I do not have children, I do not have neices or nephews, I just believe children should not be put at risk because you are running late. When your driving think about driving not everything else.

I am one of the parents that has children that go to glenview. The reason the parents at the school are so mad at Paul from what I understand is he grabbed children who were walking to school and proceeded to ask them to hold hands while standing across the road to create a bericade. Putting their lives in danger. Without the consent of any of the childrens parents. Supporting slowing down in school zones wasn't the isssue. The fact that he put childrens lives in danger is the issue! If someone grabbed my kid on the way to school and asked them to form a baricade and put their life in danger to put a message out their than I'm sure I would be slightly mad to!

Are people really driving over 140 km/h in that school zone (the speed it would take to cover the same distance in 2 seconds), or is the claim a bit of an exaggeration?

Regardless, protect the kids and drive safely in school zones!

...probably just an exaggeration in an attempt to protect a worthy cause.

There's also this claim: "Coombs says he has collected stats which indicated a child can survive being struck by a vehicle that is traveling at 30 kmph, but the fatality rate is 80% if the vehicle is traveling at 50 kmph."

A quick Google search shows that at 20mph (~32km/h) there is approximately a 5% fatality rate in a pedestrian collision, and at 30mph (~48km/h) rate increases to approximately 41%.

This is a significant increase, but even 5% is far too much. We need to not only work on slowing down, but making sure no little ones get hit at all!

[Source 1: Killing Speed and Saving Lives, UK Dept. of Transportation, London, England. See also Limpert, Rudolph. Motor Vehicle Accident Reconstruction and Cause Analysis. Fourth Edition. Charlottesville, VA. The Michie Company, 1994, p. 663.]

[Source 2: Vehicle Speeds and the Incidence of Fatal Pedestrian Collisions prepared by the Austrailian Federal Office of Road Safety, Report CR 146, October 1994, by McLean AJ,Anderson RW, Farmer MJB, Lee BH, Brooks CG.]

OMG people. Stop with the all the BS on here. This won't protect the kids. Putting out those plywood cutouts of kids and some speed bumps will. Be proactive. Arguing over stats isn't going to help. When a child does get hurt it will be a tragedy and all of you will be back on here arguing about stats again.

To Yama, as an adult you are presumably a much more responsible person that those schoolchildren. Try using common sense and go by a different route, then you wouldn't have to run the risk of killing a young idiot (is idiocy cause for capital punishment now?).

Correction. You are already doing that, I see on review.

I have children who attend Glenview Elementry and have had the opportunity to speak to Paul on a number of occassions regarding the issue of speeding motorists in the school zone. I drove my child to school on the morning of Paul's blockade. The blockade did not consist of children holding hands across the road. It did however consist of a banner stretched across the road with Paul on one end. There were child holding picket type signs on the corner of Dawson and Adam Drive. It amazes me that children on the road are concern when they part of protest but not when they are walking to school. The majority (not all) of those complaining about Paul's blockade are those who were forced to slow down.

Paul went before City council last night and asked that the issue of sidewalks be addressed. Mayor Kinsley advised that this would be a local improvement and the cost would be shuffled onto the residents of Dawson Road. I would like to point out that the subdivison Glenview Estates was given third and final reading on the condition that Dawson Road be widened and sidewalks be put constructed in light of the increased traffic to the area. Glenview Esates is completed and yet no sidewalks are installed in the school zone. Sounds to me like someone dropped the ball and our children are the ones paying the price.

To Paul...thank you for bringing attention to this matter and trying to make the community a safer place for our children.

I have children who attend Glenview Elementry and have had the opportunity to speak to Paul on a number of occassions regarding the issue of speeding motorists in the school zone. I drove my child to school on the morning of Paul's blockade. The blockade did not consist of children holding hands across the road. It did however consist of a banner stretched across the road with Paul on one end. There were child holding picket type signs on the corner of Dawson and Adam Drive. It amazes me that children on the road are concern when they part of protest but not when they are walking to school. The majority (not all) of those complaining about Paul's blockade are those who were forced to slow down.

Paul went before City council last night and asked that the issue of sidewalks be addressed. Mayor Kinsley advised that this would be a local improvement and the cost would be shuffled onto the residents of Dawson Road. I would like to point out that the subdivison Glenview Estates was given third and final reading on the condition that Dawson Road be widened and sidewalks be put constructed in light of the increased traffic to the area. Glenview Esates is completed and yet no sidewalks are installed in the school zone. Sounds to me like someone dropped the ball and our children are the ones paying the price.

To Paul...thank you for bringing attention to this matter and trying to make the community a safer place for our children.

Aren't those cute little plywood cut outs of little kids placed in the middle of the road against a law? If not, maybe a local greasy spoon could put a sandwich board type sign in the middle of any street. Some law about obstructing a thoroughfare? Hate to rain on anyone's parade, but are these devices ignored the same as motorized oldsters in powered wheelchair (also known in some circles (by definition) as motor vehicles?)

Cops are too busy giving tickets on the highway to be concerned about speeding in school zones which are far more important in my view.

I will never live this down but...I have to defend Yama...(eek! lol)

I know exactly what Yama is refering to with the hormonally, brain dead teens! In those circumstances, there really isn't a whole lot a driver can do when the teen walks into your vehicle, except stop and make sure the child is alright, call an ambulance/RCMP anyhow to deal with it. It is part of growing up...something happens to all of us in puberty where we become about 6 years old and forget to think ahead. The only way to solve this issue is to have crossing guards at every school.

Maybe Yama will volunteer...I work dayshift.

Children are all over Prince George,and now with summer holidays they will be in residential neighborhoods everywhere,not just the school zones. DONT SPEED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS!

Would'nt even be a debate if everybody followed the speed limit in school zones.
metalman.