And where is our provincial gov’t or local liberal MLA’s on this matter. Typically very silent as usual. The liberals are sitting in the background afraid to come out in support as it will mean certain defeat in the next provincial elections.

Haven’t heard anything public from bc ndp MLAs on this matter either. Looks like the fear is contagious.

Adrian Dix was on CKNW with both Bill Good and Simi Sara yesterday, Adrian Dix was absolutely opposed to this project.

Federally both the NDP, and in your neck of the woods Nathen Cullen has come out firing against Enbridge.

Adrian Dix demanded Christy Clark show leadership, take a stand one way or another, stop letting the political winds blow you around.

John Cummins has come out in favour..

Christy Cluck Clark, by hiring an Alberta Enbridge lobbyist as her new chief of staff has tipped her hand.

BC Liberals are a corporate party, all decisions in the BC Liberal Government are controlled by the motto..”Corporations first, people last”

If you want a more definative answer on what or why the BC Liberal support Corporate greed, ask their still leader..

Gordon Campbell in London

Maybe the Liberals have plans to register their support or not at other sessions. I would sure like to see what they have to say about this project.

The City of Prince George has intervenor status but hasn’t submitted anything. Couldn’t they have been removed in order to make place for someone else. Or is it just that they could have been party to this process and chose not to?

“The proposed $5.5-billion Northern Gateway Pipeline will jeopardize Canada’s long-term energy security while at the same time leading to an unprecedented expansion of the oilsands with its dangerous social and environmental impacts, a former senior federal government geologist says.

David Hughes, who worked as a petroleum geologist for the Geological Survey of Canada for 32 years, says in his 30-page study of the pipeline proposal that Canada already has enough pipeline capacity to supply current and near-future needs.

He says that there is sufficient capacity in existing pipelines and in approved pipeline expansions to meet even the most optimistic growth scenarios by the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers (CAPP) and the Alberta government”

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/01/12/HughesReport/

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Proposed+pipeline+endangers+environment+energy+security+geologist/6004962/story.html#ixzz1jpiVUdnx

“I would sure like to see what they have to say about this project.” – is there really any doubt how they stand on this?
They will say the same old rhetoric, that this is fantastic for BC and means 1000s of manhours and billions in our economy, blah blah blah. But we know that over the long run, the monetary gain is very very minimal, and as for jobs, well, all you have to do is look at some of the run of the river projects in BC to see that most are not owned or staffed by people from BC. There is so much money and jobs lost to foreign interests in this province that it is going to be virutally impossible to get it back when we get someone in the house who isn’t a traitor. And since our esteemed dictator is from Alberta, we all know how the feds stand on this issue.

“I would sure like to see what they have to say about this project.” – is there really any doubt how they stand on this?
They will say the same old rhetoric, that this is fantastic for BC and means 1000s of manhours and billions in our economy, blah blah blah. But we know that over the long run, the monetary gain is very very minimal, and as for jobs, well, all you have to do is look at some of the run of the river projects in BC to see that most are not owned or staffed by people from BC. There is so much money and jobs lost to foreign interests in this province that it is going to be virutally impossible to get it back when we get someone in the house who isn’t a traitor. And since our esteemed dictator is from Alberta, we all know how the feds stand on this issue.

Enbridge`s own reports claim there will be 100 jobs in Kitimat and 2 jobs in Terrace….The BC Government will receive a total of $131 million dollars over 16 years, $14.3 million per year..

BC gets all the risk, no reward, just poisoned rivers and a dead oil-coated coastline.

The below numbers come right out of Alberta, not spin, just facts, BC wouldn`t receive enough money to build 1/4 of a BC place retractable roof, Canada still imports 52% of its own domestically needed oil from Saudi Arabia..Run a pipeline East through Alberta onward to Eastern Canaada. leave our BC coastline alone.

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“The University of Calgary’s School of Public Policy issued an analysis Thursday concluding that with expanded pipeline access to U.S. and Asian markets, Canada’s gross domestic product would jump $132 billion in 2010 dollars between 2016 and 2030, generating $27 billion in federal, provincial and municipal taxes and 649,000 person-years of employment.

But the study also shows that the overwhelming economic benefit of pipeline expansion to B.C. goes to Alberta.

The opening of the Asian market would trigger $10.5 billion in gains and 52,000 person-years of employment in Canada, but almost $10 billion of that wealth and 44,000 person-years go to Alberta.

Ontario would get $286 million and 4,000 person-years, while B.C. would enjoy $131 million and 2,000 person-years.

The study also “suggests” that B.C. would gain an additional $85 million in GDP and another 1,000 person-years due to increased exports to California if pipelines are built to the West Coast.”

Read more: http://www.canada.com/business/decision+pipeline+will+signal+world+Alberta+premier+says/5867912/story.html#ixzz1gsTYLF5a

Canada, Enablers of Stagnation

We had a chance to change the world but Canada chose to enable stagnation and steal future generation`s birth rite!

As a country we are enormously wealthy, most of the world`s fresh water, a diverse population that`s relatively well educated, thousands of miles of open prairies capable of growing huge quantities of food, we have world famous boreal forests, rain forests inhabited with spotted owls, spirit bears and species still undiscovered, we`re a nation blessed with pristine coastlines that are home to wild salmon, Orca, oysters and countless other delicacies of the sea, our air is still invigoratingly fresh,

As present day caretakers of this great Nation isn`t our number one duty to pass on a country as clean or cleaner than the one we found.

For after all, isn`t that all we really are, caretakers, thousands of generations of civilization and Canada is prepared to roll the dice, in a nano-second of earth`s time Canada`s current caretakers are prepared to burn and exhaust every hydro carbon we have, a grand short sighted experiment with the potential to melt the world and possibly bring mankind itself to extinction.

Change must happen, it`s inevitable for hydro carbons are finite, continued expansion and growth is unsustainable, a folly of futility or stampeding buffaloes heading for the cliff, take your pick but either way the ending will be the same, will we be a country with pipelines zig-zagging every which way, Kinder Morgan proposes a double pipe to Burnaby plus a line North, Enbridge wants a Northern pipeline crossing 1200 streams and rivers and plans are for pipelines through the arctic and let`s don`t forget the XL Keystone pipeline south to Texas, here in British Columbia our temporary caretakers want 5 LNG(Liquified Natural gas) plants that will require almost as much electrical energy to operate as the energy we 4 million inhabitants use.

5 LNG plants all needing their own pipelines, 5 LNG plants selling our finite gas as fast as they can would exhaust all our natural gas in 3 decades, what kind of educated thinking society would steal every hydro carbon from future generations before they`re even born, tales of peak oil and if true paints a scenario where if the tar sands were to supply the world`s oil we would need an additional 50 pipelines.

Solid banks, modern cities, educated work-force, many world innovations and medical breakthroughs routinely come from Canada, we have a vast under used manufacturing sector that`s capable of producing the smartest products in the world, we are a civil society that`s already extremely wealthy in comparison to most of the world…..

We are country that has no reason to roll the dice with the future,

My caretaker tells the world that there will be no tar sand expansion, no destruction of groundwater, a wise caretaker tells the world that Canada is moving towards the future and will only maintain current hydro carbon extraction levels and what better way to drive innovation and change the direction of mankind then by removing the crutch of supply, we aren`t broke, we are extremely wealthy so the need for unabated exploitation of finite raw resources isn`t required and my gawd how selfish can we be.

Canada has a chance to drive change, a chance to be a leader, day after day our current caretakers tell us we are the wealthiest nation in the world and if true there is no urgency, no need to panic, no need to spend our finite resources in a nano second of time.

We owe it to Stephen Harper`s grandchildren to preserve and protect the water, the air, the land, we owe it to everyone`s children to safeguard the future.

Canada could have forced the world headlong into the 22nd century but unfortunately Stephen Harper, Canada`s current caretaker has chosen to sellout all future generations for the sole purpose of greed, unabated greed driven by oil companies, a caretaker that runs tar sand promotional ads that show pristine eco-systems in a sick n twisted campaign designed to distort and deny, a caretaker hell bent on muzzling scientists and voices of reason while hiding damning evidence of a rapidly deteriorating environment and the only conclusion any reasonable person can come to is..

Greed, power and mental sickness have inflicted the minds of Canada`s current caretakers and without immediate intervention the sickness will prevail to the detriment and possible extinction of mankind itself.

http://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/2011/12/canada-enablers-of-stagnation.html

How can I say Canada is not for sale for anyone or by any one. I have this agonizing feeling that our prime minister is trying to do just that. What is the value of money? We need our country and a future security. We definately don”t need to sell out our future to Enbridge or any other entity.

This story from Canada`s spy agency(CSIS)is making more and more sense.

“Canada’s spy agency suspects that cabinet ministers in two provinces are under the control of foreign governments, CBC News has learned.

Several members of B.C. municipal governments are also under suspicion, Richard Fadden, the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told CBC News in an exclusive interview.

“We’re in fact a bit worried in a couple of provinces that we have an indication that there’s some political figures who have developed quite an attachment to foreign countries,” Fadden said.

“The individual becomes in a position to make decisions that affect the country or the province or a municipality. All of a sudden, decisions aren’t taken on the basis of the public good but on the basis of another country’s preoccupations.”

He said the politicians and public servants see it as a long-standing relationship and have no idea they are being used.

“There are several municipal politicians in British Columbia and in at least two provinces there are ministers of the Crown who we think are under at least the general influence of a foreign government.”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2010/06/22/spying-csis.html

two sides to the story. How about we build it and then get the real results to report on it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2010/06/22/spying-csis.html

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It’s easy to become very passionate about this whole tarsands/pipeline/tankers issue.

Leaving strong emotions aside and emphasizing important technical aspects is one more useful tool for taking a firm stand against this madness.

A P.G. engineering firm will make a presentation about the energy net gain of the entire convoluted thing.

When crude oil was first commercially exploited in Texas the energy net gain was about 100 to 1. One barrel worth of energy equivalent was used up to get a hundred barrels of oil out of the well, to the refinery and to the consumer at the gas pump.

The Tarsands/Enbridge/Tankers/China Refinery chain has a net gain of 2.39 to 1.

Here is why: The natural gas used for extraction in situ or convential mining of the bitumen in Alberta, plus the energy used to transport the oil to the coast in a pipline, plus energy used to return the condensate by pipeline to Alberta, plus the energy used to load the oil on tankers, to move the loaded tankers to China and return the empty tankers back across the ocean, plus the energy used to refine the crude in China add up to so much that the net gain is only 2.39 barrels of energy equivalent left over for every one barrel of energy equivalent used.

The whole thing does not make any real sense!

It would have made sense to simply use the vast amounts of natural gas (which are now burned at the tarsands to get the bitumen out of the sand) and compress them for export!

It makes no sense to burn a much cleaner fuel (natural gas) to produce a much dirtier fuel (crude oil).

Our politicians are…well, no need to go into details.