Maybe they could start by building a sewage treatment plant for Victoria. That otta clean things up.

Why dont they just have the Fraser Insttute do this for them.
Cheers

Another waste of taxpayer dollars for another study that will produce a Report that will be useless by the time it’s issued.

If there is a genuine DEMAND for products that enable a ‘clean’ economy, they will be built. Providing the costs of their building and a sufficient profit can be recovered in the prices received for them in their intended markets .

If that CAN’T be achieved, then where, pray tell, is the difference between the government subsidising these kinds of industries to create jobs and just paying the same amount of money to have the same number of people all digging holes and then filling them in again?

For one is just as useless as a creator of MEANINGFUL employment as the other. Only maybe if some of those who milk us doing these never ending studies were on the end of a shovel for a while they might realise that.

“There is a revolution coming that is likely to burst the green global warming bubble: the temperature trend used by the IPCC (the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) to support their conclusion about anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is likely to turn out to be fake. The situation will become clear once Virginia’s attorney general, Kenneth Cuccinelli, obtains information now buried in e-mails at the University of Virginia. Or Hearings on Climategate by the U.S. Congress may uncover the “smoking gun” that demonstrates that the warming trend used by the IPCC does not really exist.

It has become increasingly clear that any observed warming during the past century is of natural origin and that the human contribution is insignificant. It is doubtful that any significant warming is attributable to greenhouse gases at all.

Once the public accepts these scientific conclusions, it should have immense consequences for policy. It will mean that the impact of rising CO2 levels is negligibly small, as has already been concluded by the NIPCC (Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change), a group of scientists skeptical of the U.N.-supported IPCC. It would also mean that wind energy, solar energy, and other “non-carbon” energy sources are not needed and are in fact counterproductive. It would remove the need for alternative fuels such as ethanol (which might please many true environmentalists). It would also mean that carbon trading, cap and trade, and fanciful schemes for carbon capture and sequestration would all end up in the dustbin of history.

One may expect a huge outcry and serious and protracted opposition from those who have built their careers on global warming hype and who have made investments in alternative energy or are looking for immense profits from carbon trading. Yet the scientific facts must win out in the long run—even against the financial interests of favored groups, wind farm profiteers, ethanol refiners, carbon traders, and the investment firms and banks that have placed hundreds of billions of dollars of their clients’ money into green projects.

Nothing has been learned from European disastrous experiences, it seems. As Bjorn Lomborg (a firm believer in AGW) reports, Germany led the world in putting up solar panels, funded by €47 billion in subsidies. The lasting legacy is a massive debt and lots of inefficient solar technology sitting on rooftops throughout a fairly cloudy country, delivering a trivial 0.1% of its total energy supply. Denmark’s wind industry is almost completely dependent on taxpayer subsidies, and Danes pay the highest electricity rates of any industrialized nation. Spain has finally discontinued its solar subsidies as too costly; as Prof. Gabriel Calzada reports, the program actually caused a net loss of jobs.

Having successfully exploited domestic subsidies, Europeans are now looking at the United States as the new “land of opportunity.” A recent example (described in the Wall Street Journal of Oct. 26, 2010) is the world’s largest solar-thermal power plant, on 7,000 acres of Federal land in the desert of southern California. The $6-billion project is a venture by two German companies, and it may be eligible for a cash subsidy of nearly one billion dollars in taxpayer money. Even after these subsidies, the cost of the electricity generated will be 30 to 70 percent more expensive than electricity generated by natural gas, the dominant electricity-generating fuel in California.

In addition to direct subsidies, the companies are seeking federal loan guarantees and, no doubt, an array of benefits from the State of California. Solar Trust of America, a joint venture between Germany’s Solar Millennium AG and privately held (mostly by Arab oil money) Ferrostaal AG, is awaiting approval from the Energy Department for a federal loan guarantee for the first two of its four planned units. Deutsche Bank AG and Citigroup Inc. are working with Solar Trust to obtain project-equity and tax-equity investment.

The White House claims that the federal cash subsidy will create three hundred permanent jobs (at about $3 million per job!). The nature of the jobs is not specified, but one may assume that there will be much need for sweepers to remove dust and dirt from about 7,000 acres of solar mirrors. Not exactly “high-tech,” is it?”

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/the_unholy_alliance/

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate/opinion_something_rotten/

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate/economic_impacts_from_the_promotion_of_renewable_energies_the_german_experi/

hey retired, quit picking on the Fraser institute. I realize this institution is the sworn enemy of the brainwashed union movement, but there research is based on accumulated data. There findings typically offend the world truths as defined by the left. Any challenge to there version of reality is immediatly dismissed. This is why the left’s influence is becoming less and less in voters eyes. They are simply wrong as proven out by factual data and it is becoming obvious for most. Retired, you are a relic of the past.

The one interesting thing to come out of the Fraser Institute is their annual calculation of “Tax Freedom Day”. Otherwise they are pretty much like their left-wing counterpart, the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives. Both are charged with producing supposedly credible ‘figures’ to support highly suspect ‘facts’. Ones which those who provide their respective finances want established as unquestionable truths to suit their own agendas.

Wasted money indeed, you, no, make that some of you have bought into the skills shortage, worker shortage con game being played out, that game of fraud has existed for 2 decades now..

Caterpillar just dusted off and fired 450 highly skilled workers, one of only 2 makers of modern Electric/diesel locomotives in the world…Caterpillar made $billions last year

kids are more computer savvy than most of you by age 10..

The machine, you mean “Robotics” of the future haven`t been built yet, there is no training or education to prepare for innovation, computers are easier to run by the week….

This job shortage/ skills shortage is nothing but a pimp job to sell education courses..

You have thinkers in the workplace, go-getters in the workplace and the remaining 70%.

Here are the skills needed..Truck driver, welders, carpenters, everyone of those workers can be trained to run the most modern robotics…

Jobs are vanishing not being created, vanishing through slave labour countries and technology..

Caterpillar left for Muncie Indiana, Caterpillar made record profits last year..

So-called thinkers at Caterpillar realized that they didn`t need to pay $30 dollars per hour when “Skilled Labour” will do it for $12 dollars per hour..

Corporate greed..

Clean energy workers needed are, Carpenters, welders, truck drivers and any kid who`s good on a computer.

You look at every mill, mine, every manufacturer, they use less and less labour everyday..

The future devices arn`t made yet, therefor there is nothing to teach to anyone.

One who builds device teaches others how to run it.

Brainwashcity.

Fraser institute?

Now that`s funny

“$$$Green Jobs$$$” = jobs that depend entirely on false science and handouts and will disappear entirely when said handouts dry up and/or pure science prevails.

Looks like the B.C. government found another supporter who needed something to do to enrich themselves at our expense.

Anyone remember the movie “Logan’s Run” be prepared. Harper is already working on it so is our provincial government.

Already this year in India it is cheaper for the first time to produce electricity by solar power, than by the traditional diesel power generation. They have already begun to make the switch. Throughout the tropics this will be the norm in years to come.

Pipelines like the Gateway could become redundant in five years time, as who is going to pay $150 a barrel for tar oil when they can produce clean solar energy for a fraction of the cost.

Here in the north we don’t have the sun in the winter for solar power… so hydro and dirty oil are our only options… if we have sovereign domestic policies for us to compete for our own energy that is, which we do not because that is not where the multinational profits are at this time.

Automated mines, no employees, seem far fetched, it`s already happening..

Who needs a “man” to drive a truck, easy business, who needs humans at all//

Alberta signewd a deal with the Chinese Government that prevents Alberta from opening up a refinery..

It`s a good thing CSIS has Stephen Treason Harper on their watch list..This will be good, Harper being the first Canadian prime minister jailed for treason!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/miners-look-to-a-future-of-automated-operations/article2327209/comments/

http://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/2012/01/can-stephen-harper-be-removed-from.html

Eagleone the main use of your dirty oil is transportation and then it feeds the petrochemical industry which is involved with just about every article in your life including food and medicines. Overall little oil is used in the production of electricity. Where you might find solar replacing diesel, you will find the lifestyle in energy use is a lot less than yours.

The world has been working at putting itself out of work ever since time began. The only real difference between the so-called curse of greater unemployment and the desirability of increased leisure is that the latter is not accompanied by a loss of income.

Strange that in a world that is rapidly displacing human labour as a major factor in production there should ever be so much emphasis on ‘the job’ as being the sole means of distributing an income.

There is really no necessity that it be the sole means of doing that whatsoever, or even the main means of doing so in the years to come.

Incomes in the past were said to be based on the three factors of land, labour, and capital (fixed capital, or plant). But what was overlooked then, and even more overlooked now, is that there is a fourth factor even more important. That is knowledge. The accumulation of which can be called our cultural heritage.

And unlike those others this cultural heritage doesn’t belong to anyone in particular, but is a common possession eventually owned and available and added to by all.

This is the greatest factor in allowing us to free ourselves of the bondage of never ending drudgery in meeting our material needs.

As it increases, and increasingly relieves the necessity of more and more people to still have to work, it could easily provide a replacement income in the manner of a national dividend.

This could be accomplished using exactly the same techniques of bookkeeping that the Banks presently use when they create money to lend for productive purposes.

The crown of all Production is Consumption. Indeed, if there were no one to consume what has been produced, and financially able to do so, there would be no real point in anyone producing anything.

At present the world has largely solved the production problem ~ we can make far more of just about everything than we currently are even able to consume. With less and less people actually needed in the productive processes.

But we have a major distribution problem. That can’t be solved by simply making MORE production, for it is a FINANCIAL problem, not a physical one. The agency of distribution is MONEY, and THAT, in a properly maintained relationship with Production and Consumption ~ something we do NOT have now ~ is what’s lacking.

The correction for this does not involve taxing anyone in order to re-distribute what was taken to someone else. That is completely counter-productive. You can’t cure any insufficiency long term by simply redistributing it. The proper solution would be distributive, rather than re-distributive. Distributive of MONEY, to all. And it would recognise, finally, the reality that labour displacement is NOT a curse if access to the greater flow of goods and services enabled by its displacement is still made fully financially possible for all.