By tomorrow morning YRB management may have their equipment operators head out and look after business for a change. Or maybe the roads will be to bad for travel. Wondering when the next fatal crash on our hwys will require the RCMP to force YRB to plow and sand the hwy?

This is ridiculous!

I was coming down the hill when all this mayham was going on. There was a DOT behind a chip truck in the left lane, there was a truck spun out on the right lane further up. Traffic was backed up and moving slowly when two more chip trucks tried to pull the hill with no chains and no run at it. Could see it unfold. I hope the DOT fined everyone of them truckers. They built that beautiful pullout in front of Mohawk/Costco so the truckers had a place to chain up and I can’t recall ever seeing a trucker use it other than to run in to get a coffee.

Also had nothing to do with YRB the road had only a skiff of snowy slush on it.

the hill was pretty slippery should have been better plowed and sanded even a few passage vehicles were spinning a little when I went up it past that chip truck around 3:30. Just the right icing snow conditions to have traction loss.

You can have all the equipment in the world on the road and have it perfect yet there is always an accident. I was following 2 YRB trucks up Peden hill and I came down 20 mins later you would of never known they had been there.

The thing that most of the public seem oblivious to is that the world does not revolve around them and that the roads should be perfect every time they drive the roads. YRB in PG has 2700km of road that they have to cover and they have 8-10 pieces of equipment to do it with per shift.

If this was a locallized storm then yes the roads prob would of been in better shape but this was a province wide storm and YRB in addition to the main thouroughfares in the city they also have to keep the hiways open in the big scheme of things city roads are only a small part of their operation.

You can have 60 pieces of equipment on the roads and what what happened on Peden hill could still happen.

Let me see ….. we have firemen on call 24/7/52 …. we have police on call the same …..

One has to be prepared for the spread between the norm and the worst. We had what …. 10 to 15 cm at the most of snow since this morning at around 8 and tonight around 9 or so before it stopped. That’s a cm an hour on average. I was till able to see my traffic for a good half a km ahead of me. This is not a storm. It was a regular snowfall.

If the highways crews are not prepared to handle a normal snowfall over the area of their responsibilities and know the “hot” spots, then there is something wrong.

Yes, drivers need to take some responsibility, but when there are sections where there is no traction to be had, and trucks need to chain up and cars are supposed to be equipped in a similar way, then put someone at Ferry to stop the trucks so that they will chain up.

Take control if the truckers and other drivers don’t.

So many Chip Trucks on our Roads why?
I been to all the Mills in our Area and all have Rail Access , so why are we moving all the Chips via Truck, are they working for less than the Railroad. If I had my way all that goes by Rail and we in our Cars may get our Roads back and I don’t want to hear they pay Taxes , just drive Hwy16 behind four Chip Trucks and getting to a Passing Lane they passing each other and you can’t get by, nice going Truckers, not all are like this, many good Truckers too.

Not to mention the amount of gravel they throw into windshields of oncoming cars at this time of year.

Coming into Kamloops from the west on HWY1, trucks have an 80km/hr speed limit with everyone else a 100km/hr speed limit.

There are many countries that have a lower speed limit for trucks. I think that should be given some consideration.

Came down Peden Hill on the way to work one day. Seeing as I had an old Ford pick up I kinda had to slide along the centre line “curb” to slow down. It was pure ice. When I got to work (I start at 7:30 AM), I phoned YRB and got a recorded message at that time because they were “closed”. And had to phone back at 8 AM. When I did phone them again I was rude.

Harbinger they use to have a person that answered the phone, but they stopped that this winter because too many people were calling it. Now its something like 8-5 when you can call.

Outwest there is no capacity to dump the rail cars. Northwood and PGP take all they can. Northwood has a dedicated rail dumper and its going steady… PGP has a truck dumper that they shut sown to dump rail cars, but rail cars take four times as long to dump, so their chip pile gets low and they have to turn it back to trucks… lately PGP has been taking self unloaders on the chip pile directly to try and maintain their stock, but they take all the chips from out west places like Houston or Fort St James and they’re maxed out on rail cars… its just not efficient to get them dumped and too expensive to run them short haul.

Each truck is using 3-500 liters of fuel a day and so they pay their fair share of fuel tax for road maintenance.

Dearth says YRB has only 8-10 peices of equipment. Is that a fact Dearth or are you just assuming? If that is a fact, then that fact is outrageous. I was a MOTH employee back in the day when the gov’t looked after the hwy’s and we had more than 8-10 units. We also didn’t have anywhere close to the complaints about lack of maintenance that we see these days.

There is no excuse in this day and age that any truck should have to chain up to get out of this city. Peden hill is a very well known trouble spot. Do the powers that be have a stroke everytime it snows in this city.

Outwest, if you can convince CN Rail to supply the number of rail cars required to get rid of the chiptrucks on our hwys I’d kiss your feet. CN Rail can’t supply enough rail cars on their best day. Chips are on the bottom of their priority list.

Gus, it makes sense to have a slower speed going down the steep hills for the big truck, but on the highway they handle as good if not better than most four wheelers on the road. The highway units fit nice in the grove on the road that helps to keep them in their lane, and the trailer gives them a lot of extra control as well in bad road conditions.

SuperB chiptrucks are like driving slot cars.

good to know where the Problem is, a National Railway can’t supply Boxcars to carry the Load, everyday something new!

Runaway lanes through the cemetery at the bottom of Peden Hill?

Boston Pizza is the prefered side of the hwy for runaways! I always thought they should’ve had a drive through at that location.