Douglas College has no business being involved in this any longer. I can’t say for all the schools, but Douglas College is allowing the Chinese run administration of their 2 overseas campuses to change grades to passing grades even if the students don’t show up and/or fail miserably.

They walk away with Canadian degrees and diplomas without doing the same work that the the Canadian student has to actually do here at home.

Canadian teachers are leaving their jobs at the Chinese Douglas College because of this practice. In one case, an instructor failed 18 of his 22 students. When the report was passed through administration, it came back with only one failed student. The Chinese students know they don’t have to do the work.

People need to watch this story called Dubious Degree that ran on 16×9.

http://www.globalnews.ca/16×9/video.html#january28/video

The fact that Abbott is running around China during the largest and most important BC teachers meeting speaks volunes about how useless he is as BC’s Minister of Education

So why would a Minister of the Crown be involved with a meeting of government employees dealing with a contract? That is the responsibility of the administrative arm of government.

Good video! Somewhat shocking, but not surprising to me at least from many points of view.

Even in Canada there are still those who mark on a curve, right from the teachers, instructors, professors and up the line. So, the practice is not uncommon.

Once we have established that marking on a curve is acceptable practice, the next step is to start raising the high point on the curve to allow 50% to pass, 60, 70, 80, 90 …… and even 100.

In other words it moves from confirming the measured knowledge and skill of a student to simply confirming that a student has attended.

Of course, that is not the final point where this can eventually lead. The final one would be that a pass simply confirms that a student has paid their tuition.

gus;-“The final one would be that a pass simply confirms that a student has paid their tuition.”
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And THAT is the most important one!

From the book, Ivory Tower Blues: A University System in Crisis.

Page 19 – “Canadian High School students have been given increasingly inflated grades, and these students have come to universities with higher expectations about the grades to which they feel entitled.

“This situation has intensified in direct proportion to the increase in enrolments in Canadian universities, as the competition to gain entrance increases.

“As more and more students with inflated grades, but lower levels of academic interest and ability, have entered Canadian universities year after year, many professors have given in by watering down their courses and inflating grades.

“To better locate the grade inflation problem, we can begin by noting that the distribution of As and Cs reversed between the 1960s and the 1990s on average in American universities, with one quarter of students receiving As in the 1990s as opposed to 7 percent doing so in the 1960s.

“The data shows that the Canadian students are either quickly catching up to their American counterparts, or have already done so.”

Being aware of that then, perhaps the Chinese system is actually just a bit further advanced than ours. ;-)

Oh, and then match all that up with post secondary instructors/professors complaining that high school grads are often not ready for university/college level education because they lack academic understanding.

And then that goes further to emloyers of both high school grads and post secondary grads.

And then, amidst all of that, go back to the interview of the president of Douglas College. He took it all in stride because he too is old enough to know what has actually happened to the edcuation system.

There is a reason why Canadians have the highest or close to the highest percentage of the population with a post secondary diploma or degree.

A link to the Amazon review of the book
http://www.amazon.com/Ivory-Tower-Blues-University-System/dp/0802091822

A link to a newspaper article about the author
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=aebf03b8-2d32-4fe1-a467-5e7f1f5a27a0&k=93169

from that article:

“There was a time when James Cote would spend hours marking up the margins of the essays his third-year sociology students at the University of Western Ontario would submit –challenging their arguments, critiquing their prose, making thoughtful suggestions and correcting their grammar.

“Now, he does not even return the papers once he tabulates the grades.

“Sometime over the past decade, Prof. Cote realized he was ending up with a stack of abandoned essays on his desk at the end of every course, and a sense of futility over the effort he put into providing helpful feedback.

“The students never came to pick them up,” he said.

“This growing sense of disinterest in learning is just one of the demoralizing trends that afflicts the modern Canadian university, and one of many that inspired him to deliver a scathing indictment of the system.”

Good info gus, not to mention shocking.

Things sure have changed since I went to University. Welcome to the entitled coddled generation, I guess.

We have over crowded classrooms, depressed teachers wanting more and many school closures and this guy is off in China on my dime. OMG,,,, this really bites

He’s just making sure that we are selling enough diplomas/degrees to the Chinese who are paying into the BC system (remember, the rest of Canada is there too) so that we can pay the local teachers … ;-)

Someone has to make sure there is a good revenue stream to pay for the education system.

This is the initial exhibitor list if you are interested. Canada is one of the big players.

http://www.cieet.com/en/czjg.asp

Now they are outsourcing Canadian education?? What next a Canadian University in China while they close UNBC and UBC??

This is part of the new inshoring trend.

For the last twenty years the multinational corporations gained a competitive advantage through off shoring to get lower tax rates, lower environmental standards, lower wage scales, and corrupt local officials that will subsidize an operation with infrastructure to get a slice of the action. That was stage one of globalization.

We are now at stage two of globalization.

Stage two of globalization is to bring those advantages inshore. This involves claiming we need to compete so we lower our corporate tax rates, and cut our social contracts with our society, and harmonize our environmental regulations to the lowest common denominator, and pervert our politics to third world status. Most importantly it involves undercutting our very citizenship through homeland security anti terror draconian laws and replacing citizens with foreign workers that don’t have the rights of a ‘citizen’… unless of course they have a million dollars to buy their citizenship (ie Vancouver 21st century).

As we reach stage two of globalization we will see foreign workers coming inshore to do work for less then half the pay, without the same workplace standards, and afraid to complain about employer abuses for fear of being deported back to third world dictatorships. Jason Kenney has made it full time work to deny foreign workers a clear path to citizenship, deny foreign worker mothers access to health care and citizenship for their children, and increasing corporate control over who is allowed entry to the country to meet Canadian quota’s disqualifying legitimate refugees, family members, spouses, and those looking to upgrade their rights so as to take a moral high ground for their friends and families back home. Jason Kenney in part does this through an immigration system full of untrained assessment officers appointed with a political bias making arbitrary decisions with no rights to appeal for the applicants.

The proposed Chinese coal mines up north are in fact the way of the future… owned by foreign communist Chinese controlled corporations employing foreign Chinese workers working under Chinese law for Chinese wages with the threat of deportation and ruin for their families held hostage back in the ‘mainland’.

Meanwhile BC’s finance minister suggests welfare recipients can compete for those jobs, without training and undercutting the existing Canadian workforce and their future standard of living. So as to say we are unqualified for the work, hence the need to import the foreign workforce.

BC Certified schools in China are an enabler to this new policy of training the foreign workers for the foreign corporations that will be working removing Canadian resources for the benefit of foreign countries and the elite few in finance that increasingly gain a strangle hold on a class divided society here in Canada through the benefits they gain selling out Canadian society, corporations, and jobs. Guys like Gus make light of it and take the elites position of belittling those who are victimized by these policies claiming a lower standard of student is to blame.

With the HST, log exports, pipelines, and coal mines, education cuts, OAS cuts, and control over the financing of politics… we all know where the BC liberals and their federal conservative cousins stand on this issue. Harper calls it ‘enlightened sovereignty’… I call it the New World Order ‘globalism’ by and for the banksters both domestic and foreign.

Eagleone. Interesting reading. The problem I have with the whole process is that I dont believe that any member of the Liberal Party,. or the Liberal Government, in BC is smart enough to understand what you are saying, let alone actually be involved in such a complex, world chilling, conspiracy.

Who are these people who can pull off this kind of BS. Do you really beleive that Harper, a kid born in Alberta and raised in Ontario, who just recently got his nose wet in Federal Politics, actually spends most of his time, working on this project to enslave Canadian Citizens?? What does he and his family gain from this process??

I can understand mega corporations having a hidden agenda because companies live forever, and people die, however I dont beleive that we are so stupid that we would allow your scenario to take place. If we are, then we deserve what we get.

For those who want to talk about conspiracies, think of the evolution of the people who inhabit an island called Great Britain, more specifically the country of England and the language they bring with them, English.

The influence of the country, its people and its language have spread throughout the world since the middle ages. Their control of the oceans gave them access and dominion over large parts of the Americas, especially North America, Oceania, large parts of Africa and parts of Asia, especially India. Only the European mainland and northern and eastern Asia were left unconquered as were those smaller portions of the world fought over by the Spanish, Portuguese, French and Dutch.

The driving force? Trade. Access to goods and services – either imported as slaves or working for next to nothing in their home land.

Nothing has changed. A conspiracy? Thatr conspiracy has been going on for thousands of years, stopped only for a few centuries by the fall of the thousand year Roman Empire.

China, the sleeping giant, has awakened, as will India. The world is simply continuing to unfold through a “natural” human process.

Anyone who wants to call it a conspiracy, call it that. It makes not one iota of a difference, in my honest opinon, of course. ;-)

“For the last twenty years the multinational corporations ….. that was stage one of globalization”

Good Lord. So what stage of globalization was the fight over the control of the oceans? …. the control of the territory around Rome?

“As we reach stage two of globalization we will see foreign workers coming inshore to do work for less then half the pay”

I could swear we did that to the Chinese already when we imported them to work on the railways as the rail was pushed to the west coast. So, would that have been the start of stage two of gobalization? Or is this the real start we are seeing, oddly enough the same people.

BTW, they had better start soon, because it is not going to take too many more years before the Chinese will catch up to our per capita income. As early as 2016 has been predicted as the time when the country GDP will surpass that of the USA. Another 20-30 years to move the per capita income level?

Palopu:

Who are these people you asked,

They are the Billdeberg Group of which

Gordon Campbell and other BC Corporate Leaders are evolved with.
Corporate domination is their motive!!!!

No, trackster, that’s their ‘method’. Their ‘motive’ is a One World Government, which will not bear any semblence of what we currently call ‘democracy’.

It will be ruled by an elite, in which sychophants like Gordon Campbell will continually aspire to “make the team”.

But, for the most part, will have to content themselves with simply being associated with the ‘high and mighty’. In the same position they’ve always held. Mere ‘gofers’. They’ll keep trying, but they won’t ever quite be good enough.

BCTF gonna send a few “shop stewards” over to China to “organize” and let the instructors know what they’re missing and how to deal with the BC government in Victoria?

I agree with a lot of what Eagleone has said. The importation of ‘guest workers’ from China will lead exactly to the same thing the importation of Asian workers led to in the late 19th and early 20th century. Our further advancement in that race to the bottom so far as our overall standard of living is concerned.

Those Chinese kids learning the BC curriculum are NOT going to be those workers. They’re going to be the bosses of those workers. The liason between the so-called ‘powers-that-be’ here, in government and banking, and their counterparts in China.

You are right Socred, those Chinese ‘learning’ the BC curriculum will be the elites that buy their Canadian citizenship through their admittance to the ‘program’… you can bet Jason Kenney is making sure the immigration officers get the memo. The communist Chinese will screen who will be the new approved eligible citizens of Canada from Asia. They will be the sons and daughters of the elites in the communist party. Their education will be debt free unlike the sons and daughters of patriotic Canadians.

Palopu do you listen to what Harper says… its Harper that talks about enlightened sovereignty, I didn’t make that up… its Harper that attends the elite meetings in Davo and talks about these things and announces the changes to OAS to lead Europe into austerity.

Facts are Harper has been around longer than you let on… new to politics? Harper has been in politics longer than almost anyone in Ottawa. He was first elected to parliament in 30 years ago as a Mulroney conservative. He helped bring in the US/Canada Free Trade Agreement. Hardly a new kid on the block.. he jumped ship when the writing was on the wall before the party was wiped out by the voters.

Harper was born and raised in Ontario and only moved to Alberta to work for the oil industry and get elected as a conservative. Harper will say and do anything for power… triple EEE senate anyone, or balanced budgets… I think he has appointed more unelected senators than any Prime Minister in history, and has the biggest deficits in Canadian history to.

His law and order is about controlling Canadians and getting more slave labor in a private prison system, its not about building a just Canadian society… even far right Americans are feeling uncomfortable with Harper policies and voicing out words of caution to Canadians.

No doubt he will walk all over any Canadian institutions or people that get in the way of his Gateway project to increase energy costs for Canadians. Its about his corporate buddies and not about the Canadian people or the Canadian economy.

Gus, Great Britain used global trade to build up British society and the British economy because they controlled the flow of wealth through tariffs and patronage. The British and the Canadians had constitutional protections under the rule of law, but few others in the Empire did… whether it be in India or Asia or Africa.

The British were no saints in what they did to India and China… that was the early work of the City of London banksters raping nations under the British flag of convenience. Saxons were about freedom from Empire and not enslaving people… those with dreams of Empire used the activity of the Saxons to gain what they couldn’t on their own. The bankers behind that have lineage to the banksters of today building the NWO. WW1 for them was about killing off the bravest patriots in society clearing a path for a NWO… they didn’t count on Canadian heroics at Vimy Ridge costing them their Empire and garnering the seeds of the Commonwealth, it was a set back for them even though they were able to set the seeds for WW2 with their post war claims. At one time Canada was proud of its sovereignty and not the ‘enlightened’ kind Harper talks about.

Trade has always existed and slave labor has been around as long as trade… Canada on the other hand historically was free enterprise enabling the opportunity for all based on merit (as was America at its greatest)… a country that protected its markets from cheaters to the system. NAFTA changed all of that. NAFTA signaled globalism would now be a race to the bottom in all the things Canadians had pride in creating… an affluent working middle class with protections for the workers and the environment, and a sovereign government controlled by citizens through their vote.

If Gus wants to think colonialism was built by trade, and not slavery and pillage of weaker societies, than he is in a class of his own IMO. Colonialism was about protected trade markets and not globalism. Globalism isn’t about fighting over oceans, that fight is history between nations, globalism is about monopoly capitalists that control the money supply (and therefor the important corporations) globally. Globalists don’t have allegiances to a country unless that country is Israel… the rest are simply a means to an end.

There is no conspiracy as I see it… only coincidence and facts and logic and history. The bakster elites at a global level likely do have a set of protocols to protect their racket, but any conspiracy is at a level controlled by only a handful of people on a need to know basis… your guess is as good as mine as to what they wish to achieve. I prefer to put my trust in a sovereign democracy and that is what we should be trying to protect so we can pass on those values and rights to future generations.

If I was to take a shot at conspiracy and not coincidence… I’d say there could very well be a conspiracy to position huge quantities of military equipment in Israeli desert bases under ground… to build a first strike capability against Russia and China through encirclement with interceptor missiles that could mitigate a response from any missiles that manage to survive a first strike… to trigger a WW3 using Iran as the proxy and to have it go nuclear… to first target any missiles that could hit Israel regardless of collateral damage from missiles that get through to Europe and North American cities and industry, and then to target European and North American cities that survive… and to wipe out Russia (as an adversary) and China (as a demographic, financial, and manufacturing threat)… and to use all the new 21st century technology in the hands of a few to control the populations that survive the famine that follows… and then once humanity is controlled to claim a new god for humanity to worship as the illiterate masses in what was once first world countries cling to anything that allows them to breath and have access to clean water. There can be no doubt in a world like this that the capital would be in Jerusalem.

At least that is the conspiracy that Putin believes in. A fallacious hypothetical… only time will tell….

Don’t forget the Billdeberg Groups goal of getting the world population down to 500 million through any means necessary. May be a pandemic, vaccinations, poisoned water/food, etc. A number they feel is enough to maintain the infrastructure needed to keep the world running. I certainly don’t condone genocide but there does have to be some form of population control as the world is simply getting too overpopulated, what with advanced medical techniques keeping people alive longer, curing illnesses that used to kill, unchecked births in the most populated countries, etc. That is why I shake my head everytime I hear our politicans say..”we need to increase our population in Canada, either though incentives to have more babies or through immigration”. Stupidity at it’s highest order.

“If Gus wants to think colonialism was built by trade, and not slavery and pillage of weaker societies, than he is in a class of his own IMO.”

So it is wrong to think that colonialism was built by/for trade?

Then why do you write in the very next sentence: “Colonialism was about protected trade markets”

Colonialism was built to access resources which were supposedly being depleted. To get at those resources, whoever stood in the way was culturally anihilated if they were too weak or too scattered a civilization to fight back, whether it was in North and Sout America, Africa, Australia and even parts of Asia.

Don’t give me any BS about “Canada on the other hand historically was free enterprise enabling the opportunity for all based on merit”. The inconvenient truth is that those who were here before were not included in the ALL. Neither were they elsewhere.

This is another occasion when the SSDD saying is extremely appropriate.

And, no oceans are not fought over too much these days, other than a few pirates here or there, and neither is air. Space, possibly. That is three dimensional space.

The modern medium for supremacy is fought not through various physical spaces which can be somewhat protected and fought over by conventional means, but through communication media. North Korea is one of the few physical spaces and relative large societies/countries on this earth that is still not connected on a comparative scale.

“we need to increase our population in Canada, either though incentives to have more babies or through immigration”. Stupidity at it’s highest order.”

Through babies, and that is Eagleone’s primary proposal if I recall correctly, is certainly stupidity. Through immigration is hardly stupidity.

How do you want to be taken over? Through further immigration with assimilation, or through colonialization?

Why would I think either way is acceptable when I already think there are too many people on this planet? Opening imnmigration doors for the sole purpose of building population, to me, is stupidity. You sound like you are advocating getting rid of country borders and accepting this world will only continue to function in the guise of a one world govt.

“Opening imnmigration doors for the sole purpose of building population”

Okay, here is how it works.

1. Right now we distribute money to those people who work. For some weird reason that is almost a world wide phenomenon which socredible would like to talk to you about. :-)

2. We have a government and people who put too little money away for the day they do not work, whether that is in the growing up years or the so called retirement years.

3. We have governments and people who have not only failed to do that, but they have also failed to put money towards maintaining infrastructure so itis crumbling around us and we have that expense to consider.

4. We have industries that have modernized and shed their work forces, except those industries that provide services have been growing by leaps and bounds.

5. We have people who still get money from investments or working or their sisters who have a good job in Alberta and keep on demanding those services and willing to pay for them just so that they can watcvh movies on demand, join facebook and twitter to talk to aunt Sarah and whoever else is interested in googoo baby pictures and uncle ernie making a fool of himslef at a party

6. BUT, we have a diminishing number of people who can keep the infrastructure going, keep the committee structures running that are now required before we can take our first baby step in every single thing we need to do and install more automated gadgets fast enough that according to some will fry everyone’s brain cells.

7. So, when that shortage of labour happend in Europe in the years when the post world war II boom took off in the 1960’s and population had been diminished through holocausts, bombings, and other acts of war and the desire to have children waned considerably while the rebuilding of the infrastructure and improvement in the general quality of life kept on asking for more and more able bodied people, the solution was ????? …. guest workers.

8. And when a similar scenario is about to happen in Canada …. surprise, surprise, as if we did not know that ….. an answer being looked at is???? … Guest workers ….. ;-)

Oh, and your solution is????

Then again, perhaps you do not see a problem …. it is actually created by the state of Israel as eagleone would quickly attest to …… or the banksters … or the bilder-whoever group that Gordon Campbell is trying to infiltrate while he is in the UK.

Actually it is the tree-huggers that want a 500 million world all living in China … with the rest of the world as pristine wilderness, there to vist and explore like Mayan and other ruins of the past ….. to eventually get overgrown …. and then the souls of the forefathers who toiled and slaved to give the 500 million their life of leisure to be properly worshipped as gods, every single one of them ….. ;-)

Gus:-“1. Right now we distribute money to those people who work. For some weird reason that is almost a world wide phenomenon which socredible would like to talk to you about. :-)”

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Add an ‘only’ in between ‘we’ and ‘distribute’ in your first sentence above, Gus, and I’d be happy to talk to anyone who wants to listen.

To make a long story short, if we ‘only’ do that in a world which is rapidly displacing workers with technology, and current Labour Costs with so-called Capital Costs, then there will only be two sources from which the Costs of Production can be fully liquidated in each successive cycle of production/consumption. (Over any fiscal period you want to choose).

They are Export Credits and Loan Credits.

The first is a physical impossibility long term, because no one country can always have a so-called ‘favourable’ Balance of Trade with other countries.

Either it will acquire such a vast amount of international credits that other countries will no longer be able to issue any more, lest the absurdity of the whole situation be revealed, (for these credits are really only demand for some other country’s goods ~ only they can’t ever be used for that without massively unemploying people in the country that holds them); and/or, if freely traded, the creditor country’s own currency will rise relative to that of every other currency to the point where its exports are priced out of international markets, causing again, massive unemployment.

The detriment of further Loan Credits in a world which can’t pay all the loans that are currently outstanding from Incomes that are continually declining, overall, relative to Costs, overall, would hardly need further explanation.

gus: “Then again, perhaps you do not see a problem …. it is actually created by the state of Israel as eagleone would quickly attest to …… or the banksters … or the bilder-whoever group that Gordon Campbell is trying to infiltrate while he is in the UK.”

Lol. That was awesome.

Was it? I bet JohnnyBelt doesn’t even know what Gus was saying. His post starts off telling us why we need ‘guest workers’ with no rights to dignity of citizenship and the rights and obligations to country that ensures… then ends with a comment saying the only problem is those that try to identify those globalists who wish to take advantage of guest workers and the profits derived from their abuse.

Gus babbles on and on in circles clouding any issue with the exceptions and divergent hypothetical scenarios that go off on tangents with no solution. JohnnyBelt buys its up as a simplistic talking point and calls it awesome… lol indeed.

Gus goes the long route to say our quality of life is dependent upon rich people buying their citizenship and diplomas… while hard working individuals should be denied their full rights to satisfy corporate greed… that Canadians are lazy and waste money anyways because we complain about having a mortgage to get an education so we Canadians can fill these jobs at Canadian pay scales… but are left trying to compete with third world labor. An elitist position not one of meritocracy and patriotism.

Clearly, gus hit a nerve.