Larry, Curly and Moe.

Take them over Dumb, Dumber & Dumbest who claim to represent us in Victoria.

Job protection – These guys have clearly all forgotten about the Skeena Cellulose debacle.

also how about the Tweedsmeer Park/Moountain Pine Beetle debacle!!!

“I think most British Columbians would agree we could do better than simply knock down a tree and put it on a barge.”

And how do you arrive at this thought when you are going around the province as described in the comment: “What Adrian’s ( Adrian Dix provincial NDP leader) asked us to do is, to go into forestry communities, test the ideas that we have, make sure that we have detail around them to make sure we can be effective immediately given the opportunity”.

So, where is this fellow’s detail around that thought that most think we could do better? We know why we started exporting logs to a greater extent than previously – the market dropped out of sight for product manufactured in this country from those logs; we were only marketing to the USA for decades (as in 5 plus decades) under a number of governments with different political bents; we had no failsafe strategy; there are sections of land which are used for their timber value; if we do not use that when it comes due to be cut, it cannot be effectively banked; by cutting the timber and selling it as logs, a very significant component of money distributed through jobs in harvesting, silvculture, transportation and forestry consulting and data collection do not get put on the shelves. 150 or so jobs in a sawmill are just a small component of the forest industry.

If this fellow wants to be forestry critic, he has a very steep learning curve ahead of him.

100 million, now where is that going to come from?

“also how about the Tweedsmeer Park/Moountain Pine Beetle debacle!!!”

What about it? The MPB is a problem as far away as Colorado. The MPB had many epicentres. Learn a bit more entomology and you might understand that.

Here is an article worth reading about what the real problem is …. Nothing BCLiberals, BCNDP, BCConservatives, PG city council or anyone else can do about it in the short term, and likely not even in the long term.

Mother Nature is in charge of this one. She’s not on Twitter and she does not need to go on fact finding missions. She is the fact, like it or not.

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/whats_killing_the_great_forests_of_the_american_west/2252

“All told, the paper that Allen co-authored describes 88 well-documented forest die-offs around the world, going back as far as the 1960s and 1970s, although most are in the 1990s and 2000s.

“If there was a way to predict die-offs, Allen said, land managers could take preemptive action, such as mechanical thinning or prescribed burning to increase the vigor of forests.

“What gives researchers pause is that many of these large die-offs have occurred with minimal warming, in just a few years. In the West, for example, the average temperature has warmed on average 1.8 F over the past century. “This is before we put two to four degrees centigrade (3.6 F to 7.2 F) into the system,” said Allen, referring to forecasts for warming by the end of this century. Trees across the world are stressed already from fragmentation, air pollution, and other problems, he said. “I don’t know how much stress the forests of the world can take,” said Allen.”

So, hang onto your hats. Wood may yet climb to a higher value. The only question is, will we have any to sell?

gus: “So, where is this fellow’s detail around that thought that most think we could do better?”

Such is the life of a ministry critic. You get to criticise without providing any alternatives or solutions.

“The NDP would pump about $100 million into programs to improve the health of B.C.’s forests”

Per year? One time only? Where is the rest of the sentence to give this $100million a bit more dimension?

In any case, I understand that the NDP has an excellent relationship with the Harper Government (aka Canadian Government) and will be reminding them of the billion they promised us over a ten year period and that they cut that promise very short of full term.

And, remind me and others, Johnny Belt, they do get the same compensation as BCLiberal MLA’s don’t they?

Now there is the perfect job.

You know, there seems to be some able thinking individuals on this blog who could just slide into that job and have virtually no learning curve. ;-)

gus: “And, remind me and others, Johnny Belt, they do get the same compensation as BCLiberal MLA’s don’t they?

Now there is the perfect job. “

Agreed. Providing some alternatives might leave one open to scrutiny from others, not to mention the very Ministry you’re critisizing.

And then there would be the American producers, jumping up and down and crying foul that the $100 Mil is an unfair advantage to the Canadian mills, cuz they cry foul on everything.

They do. So does anyone care anymore? They got big problems.

They need to find some more oil on home territory to give themselves a bit of a financial breather.

“legislative framework to try and protect jobs”

In the forest industry? Good luck.

Hopefully they do not mean “protect” as in graders, for example, when we have machines that can do most or all of that.

We’re in for another round of retraining programs from jobs that do not exist anymore to jobs that there are not enough of to go around to all those being trained.

There is something I am failing to understand from the bigger picture point of view. Here we have one party saying that we will/do have a worker shortage and another saying we need to protect jobs.

So, are there two separate books out there that keep the big picture data, one on one side of the house, the other on the other side?

Wonder if the BC Conservatives have another book. Obviously with that many book around, they can’t possbily be on the same page. ;-)

“We need to remind all British Columbians that industry like this, produces an incredible amount of wealth”

Yeah, we got a leg up on Alberta and Ontario in the wealth creating department….

Wonder whatever happened to that wood ethanol plant that Kinsley said is sure to be built here some 8+ years ago.

So much potential ….. and how about those pellets for cat litter. Too expensive to produce I hear if they have to buy the waste ….. gee, who would have thunk that?

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/georgians-on-the-hook-1290099.html
“The failed Range Fuels wood-to-ethanol factory in southeastern Georgia that sucked up $65 million in federal and state tax dollars was sold Tuesday for pennies on the dollar to another bio-fuel maker with equally grand plans to transform the alternative energy world”

It is not the NDP that created the pine beetle epedemic and failed to try and stop the devistation.
The pine beetle epedemic started when the Socreds were in power. Get some back ground before you make statements that are not correct. And give us an idea on how you would stop the destruction. Loging certainley was not the answere.
Cheers

Oh come on people. No wonder that BC’ers have no brains.

The NDP, with their public policy position, will ensure that BC will receive maximum dollar for our public resource in terms of employment and tax dollars.

You don’t need to be an idiot to figure that out after the LIEberal dictatorship. Sheesh.

Yes, the NDP has had a long a storied history of successful governments. If enviro can be sarcastic, so can I!

Time to get rid of this pathetic Liberal government.Its time to end old-growth logging in BC this is what I expect from the NDP period!

“If this fellow wants to be forestry critic, he has a very steep learning curve ahead of him.”
I agree.
Thnaks Gus, I enjoy your posts.