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P.G. to Hire Puppy Police

Tuesday, April 17, 2012 @ 4:45 AM
Prince George, B.C- Beware the knock on the door, it could be   the P.G.  Puppy Police!
The City of Prince George, which recently dismantled its environmental services division, let go 9 employees and announced 19 other vacant positions would not be filled, has posted a call for applications for one of two part time positions as a “ Dog License Canvasser”
At a rate of $17.24 per hour, the successful candidates  will go door to door, to ask residents if they have purchased their license for their pooch. It’s an effort to recoup the near $35 thousand  a year in “bad debt” from dog owners who have not renewed a license for their dog, or collect new revenue from those who have never licensed their pet.
Head of bylaw services, Guy Gusdahl, estimates the two, part time positions will cost between $5 and $7 thousand dollars. 
With the cost of a license for a spayed or neutered dog going for $31.00 for the balance of the year,   if both “canvassers” are working,   the two of them will have to “collect” or “sell” more than 1 license per hour, just to pay for their combined wages for the hour.
The  posting says the successful candidate for the job should have a good working knowledge of dog breeds. That’s because the cost of a license for one of the breeds the City has listed as “restricted” is  $121 for a spayed or neutered animal, and $303.00 if the animal is not “fixed”.  
Under the current bylaw, any dog that is Pit bull, American pit bull, or Staffordshire terrier, or   is a cross breed of any those mentioned, is considered a restricted dog. However, those who have spent many years working with dogs say a Shar Pei cross can resemble the so called “pit bulls” .
“Obviously we are not going to do a DNA test on a dog if the owner says it isn’t a pit bull” says Gusdahl “ but common sense will prevail if the owner says it’s a Yorkshire terrier and it looks like a pit bull.”
The bottom line in the door to door canvassing job though is access. 
Under the Community Charter, section 16 says the municipality has the authority to enter on or into a property if any of the following applies:
(a) the owner consents;
(b) the municipality has given the occupier at least 24 hours written notice of the entry and the reasons for it;
(c) the entry is made under the authority of a warrant under this or another Act;
(d) the person exercising the authority has reasonable grounds for believing that failure to enter may result in a significant risk to the health or safety of the occupier or other persons;
(e) the entry is for a purpose referred to in subsection (6) (a) in relation to regulations prohibitions or requirements applicable to the place that is being entered.
While Gusdahl doesn’t want to speak about hypothetical situations, the reality is, a person not wanting to pay for a license could refuse entry, refuse to answer the questions about a dog, and if served with 24 hours written notice, could send Fido to another location while the City pokes around looking for what Gusdahl calls “other signs of dog ownership”. It would stand to reason that if the City is not going to do DNA testing on the dog to determine breed, other it would be difficult to pin “other signs” to proof of ownership.
Dog licensing was expected to increase revenue for the City by about $20 thousand dollars this year because the fees were increased.
Still Gusdahl says having your dog licensed is the best insurance a dog owner can have to making sure the animal is returned to them should, for some reason or other, the dog be at large and picked up by the Pound. The license will link the animal to the owner and a happy reunion is just around the corner.

Comments

This City councel has gone nuts

Forgive me if I’m wrong here, but what have bylaw services been doing in previous years to collect this money?

I am at the point where I am just ready to sell my house an leave this town. Anything to quit feeding my hard earned dollars into this city any longer. I have no issue paying a fair share for taxes. It is a necasary evil in order to pay for essential services , but when I see the gross neglect and blatant wasteful spending this city is famous for it just makes me say enough is enough .A governing body can never make every one happy , but when they cannot make anyone happy there is an issue. I think perhaps it is time for the taxpaying citizens of Prince George to stand up and say enough is enough, call a vote of non confidence in our mayor and council and get them out, We have a right to responsible government,and the city of Prince George has not seen this for a long time.Mayor Green and council ,if I had my way the only thing you would get from me is 2 words, “You’re Fired!”

The city harrassed us untill we got them. Out of four houses with barking dogs, we were the only one that got harassed that our dogs were barking and that you needed dog licenses. He said neghbours were complaining and that you need to get licenses. so we did and well all the dogs ing the neghbourhood is still barking but they havent came around any more. But all the Damn cats can run around and noone cares.

Just what is the purpose of a dog licence anyhow? Then again what about cats?

Just when I think this city can’t come up with any more stupid ideas . . . .My dogs are micro-chipped, tattooed and have a name tag on their collar with a phone number and now their rabies tag is registered with a database, if they are lost and not stolen they have a better chance of being returned with those methods so don’t try to sell that line.

How are they coming up with the amount for the “bad debt” as well? Have they taken into consideration that dogs die and the owner may not actually be delinquent? Just because a dog is in their system doesn’t mean anything.

The council is a JOKE… but we arent laughing we are going in debt.

As for the “what about cats” well they dont attack and kill people, they are different animals, dont like it when the crap in my flower bed, but they are animals.

WTF? There is no way that this poor soul is going to earn their keep. Would probably be better just to spend the $17/hr where it is actually needed: at the animal shelter!

Another stupid idea which backs up the notion that this City Council has gone bonkers.

“Gusdahl says having your dog licensed is the best insurance a dog owner can have to making sure the animal is returned to them”

And here I thought a chip or tattoo was the best way.

Does this mean that if I also put a little piece of metal around my dog’s neck for less than $10 with all sorts of info on it, and the City wwill find the dog, that the dog will not return the dog because it is not licensed?

Too early in the morning to write from the looks of it …:-)

Getting dogs and the city mixed up is so easy these days.

Somebody has to pay for the raise they just gave themselves!

The difference between two cities. If the city was really concerned about helping re-patriate dogs with their owners, they would be handing out licenses for nothing as is related in the following story. Are we after the money, or are we interested in helping people get into the habit of getting a license?

The Bicycle Bell: Rules that build social capital

In Calgary there are 650 kilometres of shared-use pathways jointly used by walkers, cyclists, skateboarders and roller-bladers, runners and dog walkers. Rules enforced by the by-law officers ensure the system can operate safely. One is that all bicycles have to have a bell to alert other users. The penalty for failing to have one is a $57.00 fine. Failing to pay can have further consequences. Historically, officers would patrol the pathway and stop cyclists without a bell and fine them. These interactions were unpleasant and stressful for both the officer and cyclist. After the confrontation the cyclist would ride away angry with their $57.00 ticket but still with no bell on the bike – no compliance. Administering the fine cost the taxpayer $100 and more if the cyclist ended up in court.

The simple solution was to revisit the original goal of compliance and to review options to achieve it. The city were able to buy 100 bells wholesale at $1.00 per bell and 12 screwdrivers for each of the rangers.

Officers were given bells and a screw driver with the instruction to continue to enforce the regulation but to do it differently. During the dialogue with ‘offenders’, the officer covers the reasons why the bell is needed and the penalty for noncompliance. He then says they are lucky as he has a bell and a screw driver and if the cyclist is willing to install it now, the officer will not a ticket them. During the installation time, the officer takes advantage to continue the positive dialogue and educate the cyclist on other safety related regulations. At the end of this five- to ten-minute encounter, the cyclist rides away in compliance, educated and in a positive mood as they have been given a gift. The officer returns to duty after a constructive, unstressful encounter. The prime goal of compliance is achieved. To date, no one has declined to accept the bell and take the ticket option. This approach is far cheaper. Crucially with financial capital, the more you use it the more the less you have; with social capital the more you use it the more it achieves.

http://creativebureaucracy.blogspot.ca

I don’t have a dog but quite often find ““other signs of dog ownership” around the place. I guess that means I will have to watch out for the license nazi.

Whoever came up with this brainwave must have been herbed up and watched an old Cheech and Chong movie.

Looks like dog sh**… smells like dog sh**… feels like dog sh**… tastes like dog sh**… Must be dog sh** …………………… Good thing we didn’t step in it!

With the current council and admin it is the taxpayers that step in it. Starting to turn the corner from funny to idiotic.

So the City is hiring people to go door to door selling dog licenses? Are they thinking that if I didn’t already buy one, this will help me remember to do so? “Picked up by the pound”? Do we have dog catchers to pick up escaped pooches? Can’t they canvas for unlicensed pets while they are out searching for dogs at large?
As other posters have said, the dog license is just another form of identification, but I don’t believe it is more likely to get my dog returned to me than the tag that says my phone number on it.

Good I can expect that when the license nazi knocks on the door he will have a bag of “other signs of dog ownership” and after finding no pooch will be merrily on his way and I will be happy not cleaning up behind unthoughtful dog owners…….BRILLIANT IDEA…now I have time to get a wheel alignment(again)

Crazy. Maybe should leave the dog crap in front of my door to keep them from comingany closer. Is there a fine for not having a dog liscence?

Oh, suck it up dog owners. What a bunch of whiners.

I’m getting fed up with these entitled owners who let their dogs bark day and night in the backyards, some left to roam the neighborhood to crap everywhere. And don’t dare call them out on it, they will make either some lame excuse, give you attitude, or not care.

April Fool…oops but it’s April 17. The whole breed specific componant is flawed as it is and now they want to add to it.
I can see paying someone $17 to be the poop police which would be in the best interest from a health issue.
This has to be a dream..when I wake up I will have a good laugh. Going back to bed.

I am embarrassed that the powers to be that come up with these ideas represent us to the rest of the province and whoever else has the misfortune of visiting here.

Was there any meaningful well thought strategies or decisions made at the council meeting? Have their ever been?

We need crap police ….. $100 fine associated with that one … and it is a public health issue …..

Keeping Unlicenced Dog 100.00
Fail to display Licence Tag 50.00
Fail to replace Licence Tag 50.00
Fail to advise of change of address 25.00
Dog At Large 100.00
Dog barking excessively 100.00
Fail to remove Dog feces 100.00

http://princegeorge.ca/cityhall/legislativeservices/citybylaws/Bylaw%20Documents/Consolidated%20Animal%20Control%20BL7771%20Merged.pdf

So if your dog is caught running around and is not licensed, but was licensed at one time and has an old tag on, here is the cost they could hit you with – cumulative:

Dog At Large 100.00
Fail to replace Licence Tag 50.00
Keeping Unlicenced Dog 100.00

$250 total.

If all dogs in town are licensed and that dog were picked up, the fine would go down from $250 to $100.

So, by licensing dogs we have a loss of opportunity.

Even at the high end of that estimate of cost, $7000 by $17.24 an hour is only about 200 hours per year per “successful candidate”. What are they going to get done working 4 hours a week? Do we not have someone at city hall already that probably plays solitaire on the computer more than 4 hours a week?

Might as well have crap police to complete the set, crap mayor, crap council,crap Miss manager Bates, etc :-( And crap roads

The could get firemen to conduct those house to house inspections, enter the house with notice, and do fire inspections at the same time.

Thought police next?

We took our neighbour’s dog in to the SPCA a few years back; the thing was allowed to roam free throughout the neighbourhood; unlicensed, unaltered and unsupervised. We finally got tired of chasing the thing away. 10 days go by until the owner decides to go and pick him up. Total cost? A bag of dog food as a donation.

How long before this hits the boig city newspapers …. BCTV needs to come up here for this one …

Who is in charge of communications …. oh right … Chris Bone …..

But we all know that does not matter since communications people just do what they are told ..

That was a few years ago, faxman. We now have SuperGus at the helm.

I am going to have to change my name on here … LOL

Before we invite the media we have to design a uniform for these inspectors. Don’t want to look like total yokels.

Open to suggestions.

“April Fool…oops but it’s April 17. The whole breed specific componant is flawed as it is and now they want to add to it. “

Absolutely right Opinionated! The few jurisdictions that still have breed specific laws are finally waking up to the fact that it’s totally misdirected (see Ont., Ohio).

ANY dog can be dangerous just like any human can be a loozer. Often, the two meet up which is unfortunate for the dog.

Maybe our PG Council will not be the last to correct this error?

So let me ask this…..All you twits that have nothing better to do then sit on opinion 250 and WHINE WHINE WHINE about Everything the city does, Who did you all vote for?! Your complaining because your City wants to License Dogs? Well hello and welcome to the reality of LIVING in a City….or does the redneck mentality in the North echoe that “we should just let em all run wild!” Funny to me how now you can’t FIND a soul who voted for Miss “Line my own Pockets” Green. The workers at the City work just as hard as any other compnay but becuase they are a Municipal corporation they get to be abused cuz “I pay Taxes! Well guess what…..we ALL pay taxes, even the city employees and I am quite sure their more then tired of hearing a bunch of malcontents piss and moan about decisions that are out of their handsa. I mean come on folks…. Guy Gusdahl does NOT make those decisons, it gets mandated down to him from Green and her Big City business chronies so if your gonna bitch, at least bitch about the right person!!

Gus I like your story on the bike bells. A $1.00 bell probably saved that city and other multiple dollars in lawsuits and health care costs.

Calgary seems to have some progressive thinkers, starting with their mayor……

Uniform?
How about starting with the hat?
I vote that the uniform include one of those psuedo ball caps with the dog droppings on the brim.

Uniform for SuperGus? Well, for starters he will have to wear a cape when performing his daring capers in public.
metalman.

“psuedo ball caps with the dog droppings on the brim”

No can doo, already taken by office of citizen engagement.

“Guy Gusdahl does NOT make those decisions”

Who says? He will not make the decision. It will be the City Manager in some cases and even a person reporting to the City Manager, or City Council in others.

If the Mayor did not know about this, she is not doing her job! You do not fool around with people and their pets.

Decision making works something like this. Staff is informed by Council or the city manager or by the finance committee most likely in this case to find money. It is all about money as Kevin the TV personality billionaire says.

So the directive goes down the ladder to departmental heads, etc. who look at their small operational territories and they go out and think with a few of their friends sitting at lunch to do some brainstorming. They figure that there are lots of dogs around town, but they are not licensed.

They tie that together with the old fuller brush man idea of going door to door to sell licenses. And then they give it the clout of being able to enter a premise with prior notice to see if the old lady’s little Chihuahua that stays in the house and poops on the rug every now and then or has a fenced back yard that it cannot escape from even if it tried. They marry that with low paid (by City standards) employees and run the numbers.

That idea gets passed to the next management level, it is accepted and goes on from there till it reaches the final decision maker. The bylaws enforcement manager is part of the system. He comes up with the idea, he puts it together to sell it, and someone else then says “go”.

No one is exempt from responsibility in a bureaucracy.

Remember, under certain repressive regimes the excuse when caught was “I was just following orders”. Group think.

We have to remember that a certain number of people will go in to get their dogs licensed before these people will hit the streets. Just the announcement and pulicizing it will have an effect. I would like to see the numbers of people who come int within the next month.

Then, at the end, there will be those for whom it will cost more to get the license than the license will get in.

Zues88 wrote: “So let me ask this…..All you twits that have nothing better to do then sit on opinion 250 and WHINE WHINE WHINE about Everything the city does, Who did you all vote for?!”

You sound like you are not too shabby a twit yourself. So we all voted for people like Harbinger. Did it do us any good if there were more twits like you voted for Stolz?

Think about how stupid your post is. Oops… maybe that is too much to ask.

Now that you have taken us into the ad hominem attacks, we really have progressed to more meaningful discussion. Right?

Not even a bit of humour in those personal attacks. Good going, Zues88!!

2 dog license inspectors

2 Nissan Leafs (leaves?)

200 hours per year

Take back everything I ever said…they are farking geniuses !!!!!

BTW Tongue planted firmly in cheek

This could hit national news within 24 hours or less.

“City with 5 of the 10 worst roads in BC can’t afford repairs; hires puppy police for income”

If I see the guy coming I will just hide my dog in the pot hole over there. He will never find him.

Howrd_B_Stern wrote: “I like your story on the bike bells”

I used that as an example of how to implement change effectively while teaching elements of leadership to supervisors.

“City with 5 of the 10 worst roads in BC can’t afford repairs; hires puppy police for income”

….leave no turd unturned in order to track down offenders.

Hey, if you have a pothole on your street, give the guy a fine for not having it filled yet.

Following in the heels of the Calgary approach to bicycle bells comes this story from the City of Toronto services review

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/143569–core-services-review-part-5-pet-licensing-bylaw-enforcement-could-go

“Within animal care and enforcement, KPMG suggests cat and dog licensing could be eliminated since almost all cats (90 per cent) and most dogs (70 per cent) aren’t licensed.

C”ommittee chair Cesar Palacio said “those are the inefficiencies that we’re trying to deal with.”

“It doesn’t make sense to spend $1.9 million to collect $600,000,” he said, referring to pet licensing.

“KPMG suggests the city consider outsourcing some or all of this to private or community shelters, and that animal identification could be offered by pet stores or other private commercial businesses.

“Vet care for animal emergencies could be reduced and the pick up of unwanted animals to be placed for adoption could also be nixed, the consultant said.”

What a refreshing right of centre appearing approach.

How do we pay for the City employees who pick up stray dogs? Like everything else we are moving towards, user pay. In other words, if the fines are not high enough to cocer the cost right now, then increase them so that they will cover the cost giving consideration to the fact that a proportion of the population will not pay those fines.

“April Fool…oops but it’s April 17. The whole breed specific componant is flawed as it is and now they want to add to it. “

Absolutely right Opinionated! The few jurisdictions that still have breed specific laws are finally waking up to the fact that it’s totally misdirected (see Ont., Ohio).

ANY dog can be dangerous just like any human can be a loozer. Often, the two meet up which is unfortunate for the dog.

Maybe our PG Council will not be the last to correct this error?

“April Fool…oops but it’s April 17. The whole breed specific componant is flawed as it is and now they want to add to it. “

Absolutely right Opinionated! The few jurisdictions that still have breed specific laws are finally waking up to the fact that it’s totally misdirected (see Ont., Ohio).

ANY dog can be dangerous just like any human can be a loozer. Often, the two meet up which is unfortunate for the dog.

Maybe our PG Council will not be the last to correct this error?

I’m actually speechless as to the absolute lack of intelligence displayed by the people who are supposed to be managing the affairs of the City of PG. Good luck folks.

Maybe they will be whelen. Look at the flouride situation.

When I see lots of cars illegally parked and people sprinkling the streets as much as their lawns and lots of dogs running loose all after 5:00 pm and no bylaw enforcement officers to be had, it makes me wonder just what the city is thinking.
Perhaps even having just one officer on duty until 10 or 11:00pm each day, these issues could be addressed. would the ‘puppy police’ be regular enforcement officers as well? Or would they be just there to track down dogs?

I do like Gus’s story about Calgary. I also can’t quite understand why there is a need to renew the license each and every year, except for the fact that it is a money grab.

If this is truely about reuniting a dog with its owner, then once a tag is purchased there shouldn’t be a need to renew unless of course you move but a simple email could update the info they have a city hall.

Like the city of calgary think priorities, desired outcomes and customer service. Stop knocking on doors and looking for cash, instead they should patrol our streets and parks and focus on those dog owners who don’t pick up after their pup. That should be the priority.

The annual licensing of business fits in the same category. The Services review in Toronto also picked up on that.

As Mitch2 wrote, it is just a money grab. Yes, businesses should be licensed. However, are there any inspection duties that go along with that? Health looks after the important ones. I would think that the City needs to know where the businesses are and what they are. So, a registration fee when the business exists and an change fee when it moves to a new location.

I might be forgetting some other service the City provides or info the City needs to know.

High time to rethink some of these things. What is the real purpose/objective of doing something and then put a price tag on it if it is necessary to do something to reflect the true cost.

This is an easy fix for dog owners. At one time you could go to the bc access center and buy a provincial dog license for 5 dollars and this supper cedes any municiple license. All you have to do is tell them that you and your dog spend alot of time in the bush all over the province. It maybe a little more than 5 dollars now but it will still be cheaper than what the city wants to charge. Then when the puppy police show up tell them to go to hell my dog is licensed with the province and there is no thing they can do. Problem solved.

Hey, NMG, you got out just in time. Just think, another 10 years of this and your mind would go just as stir crazy as those we elect.

I think that famous saying should go something like this:

Those who can .. do

Those who can’t do ….teach

Those who can’t teach …. govern.

Hey, if that is true, apester, that would be great.

gus: “Those who can .. do

Those who can’t do ….teach

Those who can’t teach …. govern.”

Those who don’t do any of the above… complain.

I don’t think my dog should have to licensed. He has been trained to sniff out pot holes something the city certainly has the inability to do. My dog is so contentious he even craps in the potholes to try and repair the roads.

Thanks for that JohnnyBelt .. I was wondering who would fall for that … LOL

Those who complain ….. create the need to be governed

Those who govern …. create the need to teach them ….

Those who teach … create the need to learn from those who can do …..

;-)

Gus, you rant like a 3 year old who’s teether was taken. You rant and rant and Rant and the frightening part is THIS is your life. You are a very un-intelligant chap if your laboring under some idea that YOU are making intelligent comments LOL Your a whiner who Loves to throw out heresay and nothing to back up your so called “facts”! Climb down off your soapbox and make a contribution to what YOUR City is doing….but I guess you are….your complaining about EVERYTHING they do LOL! Keep up the good work. But this is ‘Opinion250’ so I suppose twits (And your a complete TWIT ‘Gus’ make no mistake) live for sites like this so rant away!!

YOU have posted 19 times on this today GUS…..Congratulations, YOU Sir need to GET A LIFE!!! LOL

“Calgary seems to have some progressive thinkers, starting with their mayor……”

Yes, that is true! Calgary voted and stopped polluting its drinking water with the industrial effluent chemical hydrofluorosilicic acid – the stuff Prince George City is putting in our tap water!

@Zuess88,

Personally, I look forward to reading gus’ contributions on stories. The majority of his comments are far from being un-intelligent. The fact that he backs up his views with research and facts is the opposite of un-intelligence. I would much rather read comments that focus on the story at hand, than a comment complaining about the number of posts by a fellow commenter. By the way, capitalizing words does not increase their emphasis.

Back to the story however, is the city really that desperate for money that they have to go house-to-house looking for untagged dogs? Surely there must be other inefficient areas within the city where money can be saved.

You weren’t the schoolyard bully by any chance were you, Zues88?

You know, where all the kids were playing nicely until you came along? Contributed nothing to the game; just blew your mouth off with derogatory remarks; maybe poked a few kids in the ribs if you got a chance to.

And now you are into cyberbullying .. and using this site as your practice area. …

http://www.king5.com/news/consumer/Adult-women-also-engaging-in-cyberbullying–92988949.html

You likely do not recognize yourself, but someone else might be able to help you with that.

Zues88

You should re-read the 10:17 post and try to understand it. Your last two posts are the blog equivalent of the old saying “better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt”

Might want to revisit proper use of your and you’re, just to be safe look at to, too and two while there.

LOL its better to be happy in life then on the internet whining like a spoiled kid everyday but hey, apparently you folks have little to do but complain so have at it….everyone loves the clowns!! As for me, KUDOS (capitalized for effect LOL) for the city trying to crack down on scumbags who are too lazy to abide by the law and pay for a dog licence, which (seeing how Gus is usch a brilliant man with facts lol) is in fact one of the LOWEST license fees for dogs in the province. But hey….Ya gotta complain about something!! Did ya hear the Mayor has a new shirt…..MY God start the complaining LOL!

Keep up the good work Gus. Don’t always agree but your comments are factual and informative.

make that the last three posts.

Yes, the complaining can get a bit much, but there is nothing wrong with asking questions.

Licensing fees for dogs in Prince George are higher than licensing fees in Kamloops or Kelowna.
http://www.city.kamloops.bc.ca/bylaws/doglicencing.shtml

http://www.kelowna.ca/CM/page346.aspx

Also, to add onto lonesome sparrow’s advice:

http://grammartips.homestead.com/than.html

Zues88 … recalling some of your posts on this web sites over the past few months, you seem to like issues around policing, enforcement, etc.

In Toronto they have both cat and dog licensing requirements. There is 10% compliance with cat licensing and 30% compliance with dog licensing.

It costs around $1.9million to collect $600thousand in license fees.

They looked at the purpose of license fees and suggested that the City get out of the business of licensing dogs and cats, thus saving $1.3 million. They said that tags for collars can be purchased much more cheaply at the pet stores, humane society, etc. On toip of that, the tags have the animals name, phone number and address and can be brought back (if it can be caught) to the owner diredtly, circumventing the cost of the 3rd party city employee.

So, if you are at all interested in making a positive contribution to this discussion, how do you feel about that system versus the way we are going here?

Tax holiday downtown and the dog owner picks up the tab. Protect the property of business that built on the flood plain. From the pockets of many to the pockets of few.
Heard this story before. Seems it was the HST. Hanson, Campbell, and the Lieberals kept telling us the HST was revenue neutral.
Revenue neutral alright. Out of the taxpayer pocket into the jeans of industry.

Oh, BTW, if we get rid of the requirement to get licenses we also get rid of a large populatiuon of scumbags since there would be no one who would be trying to hide from paying.

I think that is how you referred to them right? Scumbags? ….

Posted by: Zues88 on November 9 2011 6:34 PM
Oh and BIGMOUTH EGOMANIAC Brian Skakum calling into Meisner and saying “Bring your A game” just shows what a moron that man is!! He lives in his own little bubble and probably sees himself as a ‘Saviour for the people’ when in reality Brian all you are is a Egomaniac jerk with no respect for due process or the law and you think YOUR above it. It Skakum gets re-elected by the mental midgets in this city what does that tell ya about good ole Prince George?!

Post like this one added quite a bit to the discussion in the lead up to the last election, especially the mental midgets part if reference to the electorate.

Years ago there was a craze called pet rocks. How about “PET POT HOLES”. No need to line up as there are certainly enough pot holes for everyone that wants one.
Sit by the roadside and watch them grow. Pretty soon the pot holes will marry and have little pot holes. Soon you will have a family of pot holes.

I think it’s pretty safe to say that the regular posters on O250 have a pretty good handle on who provides value with their comments and who doesn’t, LOL. People can read into this however they wish :)

You all forgot about one more fine. The assault on the by-law officer for being rude to my dog. ( The dog has more class than most humans).

“No young summer student dog policeman- that’s not my dog standing beside me at the front door. I’m just looking after my friends dog. He lives in Salmon Valley so Spike doesn’t need a City license. But hey-thanks for stopping by!!”

hmm….let me see Zeuss88 wrote:
” But this is ‘Opinion250’ so I suppose twits (And your a complete TWIT ‘Gus’ make no mistake) live for sites like this so rant away!!”

If Twits live for sites like this, and you have made several rants, what does that make you Zeuss88????

17.50 bucks an hour for 19 openings to recoup 35000 a year. Do the math first and you don’t come up with the same solution. 35000 divided by 17.50 equals 2000 hours. 2000 divided by 19 equals 105.3 hours per person per year. 105.3 In 52 weeks there are 2080 working hours. Who wants that job — 105 hours a year? Hey mom, I’m making 17.50 an hour but its only 13 days a year. There will be a line up for those positions huh?

Staffordshire terrier
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images22/AmericanStaffordshireTerrierCash004.jpg

Pit bull
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xRraVcfa3GM/TBQ8bYVgWuI/AAAAAAAACLQ/EIm13iLI3mI/s1600/Pitbull.jpg

not a restricted breed
http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/gambit_lab_sharpei_01.jpg_w450.jpg

not a restricted breed
http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/images/breeds/bulldog74.jpg

not a restricted breed
http://dogs.bsl-sbt.com/imagefiles/dogsimages/americanbulldog_grass.jpg

Good luck making the right decision.

At $17.24/hour we will not be hiring veterinarians.

You are right gus and even the vets can’t positively identify some of these breeds especially the “pit bull cross”. the point is that Breed laws like this are fundamentally flawed to begin with. As with the long gun registry, the only parties impacted are the responsible gun-owners. Same with this. Do you think the drug dealers are paying the extra fees to the City?

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