Technical Glitch Scuttles Core Review Meeting Webcast
Wednesday, May 16, 2012 @ 2:45 PM
Prince George, B.C. – People who decided to watch the City’s webcast of Tuesday night’s Core Services Review meeting instead of attending found themselves out of luck.
Information releases about the meeting from the City’s Communications department provided information about the time, date and purpose of the public meeting in council chambers, and also stated the meeting would be webcast, just as regular council meetings are webcast from the same room. Prior to the meeting microphones were checked and re-checked to see that the system was working. However, as some posters to Opinion 250 have mentioned today, it didn’t happen.
Manager of Communications Chris Bone says “it was intended to be webcast. We had some technical difficulties and so it’s not going to be available on our city webpage.” Bone could not say what the technical problem was. “I don’t really know the details. I do know it’s the first time we’ve webcast a public information session. Normally we just webcast council meetings.” Asked whether the problem with the system has been rectified, Bone says “it has.” So it was a problem last night but not today? “Not that we’re aware of. We haven’t had any reason to re-test the system with the webcast because we haven’t had any meetings today.”
Bone says the information from last night’s meeting will be available today. “Later on today our Core Services Review web page will be up. On that page there will be a copy of the presentation that was delivered by KPMG at last evening’s presentation, as well as contact information if members of the public want to provide comment to either KPMG or directly to the Mayor on the Core Services Review.”
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What, no conspiracy theorists commenting yet? Lol.
It was the visigoths ….. that group is always up to no good ;-)
I think it’s somehow connected to 911…..has to be!!?
âLater on today our Core Services Review web page will be up.”
This time I shall abstain. Since they never identified what the glitch was I have zero confidence that the glitch will not return.
This just goes hand in hand with the heinous and unconstitutional fluoridation of our water. I’m not sure how, but I did pull some of these links off google…
Maybe it’s a way of justifying the outrageous amounts set to be spent on IT upgrades…..
Incompetence, pure and simple. The technical glitch at City Hall is called “management.”
ah c’mon guys… it’s Murphy’s Law pure and simple… webcasting is tricky stuff… Problems appear a reboot makes them disappear no way to track it… Will it happen again… yep. The more interest in the event the likelier things will go wrong.
Perhaps *LIVE* streaming can be tricky, but it’s not hard to record the proceedings and upload the video later.
Children do it regularly, it’s called YouTube. Ever hear of it?
Also there’s http://www.ustream.tv/ – pretty simple.
I should read the whole story first…
So they need to have a meeting to test the system, but can’t test it without a meeting is what the man is saying….
It could be that we haven’t discussed the floridation of our drinking water long enough to get it through councils head that Prince George doesn’t want it. Or could it be that council is waiting for input from councilor Brian Skakun?
Well it is a cinch that the core review won’t clue into the fact that in Prince George the tax payers don’t want floridated water. Yes it would save money but where would council spend the money saved? There you have the conundrum. But hold the phone… what if we spend the money saved on the roads!!
“Well it is a cinch that the core review won’t clue into the fact that in Prince George the tax payers don’t want floridated water.”
And you know this how, Surefire? Has a survey been conducted?
This core review will actually provide the opportunity to get such feedback. Part of it will survey the community to a limited extent on exactly that type of question.
I doubt that KPMG will consider postings on ANY web site, other than one specifically set up by them, to be representative of the general population.
The best action for you and others to take is to contact them directly to let them know your feelings about fluoridation and that we could improve our water quality (a myPG objective) and save money.
“We havenât had any reason to re-test the system with the webcast because we havenât had any meetings today.”
Excuse me? One would think the reason for a re-test is obvious: It didn’t work.
Crazylegshinch, Surefire – correct! No survey (referendum) has ever been conducted in Prince George (comatose democracy) but thousands of petitions have been signed at healthfood stores and forums by those who have taken the trouble to inform themselves about this nagging fluoridation issue. Three presentations have been made before city council. To no avail. The people who make the decision to keep inflicting this on everyone via the tap water don’t seem to realize that a) 98% of the population of B.C. is doing just fine without fluoridation, no matter how little natural fluoride they have in their water (too much is also a health hazard!) b) that they are legally responsible for making such medical decisions without having a medical license to administer medication to people – the patients who drink the water.
Fluoride is NOT essential to human life or human health. It is already everywhere, in prepared food, soft drinks, etc and also in fluoridated toothpaste (which is a choice of the consumer) – there is NO NEED to add it to tap water!
We are the last 2% in the province who are FORCED to consume it in the water!
Does it make any sense? Of course not!
Gus:”The best action for you and others to take is to contact them directly to let them know your feelings about fluoridation and that we could improve our water quality (a myPG objective) and save money”
Well said! However, this fluoridation issue has very little to do with feelings! It is a health issue! It is also an issue about equality, respect, caution, democracy, legality, ethics and morals!
A public water supply is not to be used for distribution of any medication or drug! Is hydrofluorosilicic acid a drug? It hasn’t been classified as such! If it is not a drug it must be a medication because it is used in an attempt to medicate people with amounts of it in the water!
If it is neither a drug nor a medication then why is this chemical effluent by-product of the phosphate fertilizer industry added to drinking water?
My doctor has NEVER asked me how many glasses of PG fluoridated water I drink in a day. If I drink 8 glasses a day I get twice as much as a person who drinks 4 glasses. Where is the follow-up? My blood and urine should be tested regularly to determine if the dosis is too much or if my kidneys or thyroids are being damaged by the accumulation of chemical fluoride!
Fluoridation is a haphazard medication of drinking water without any required (by law) follow-up by a health professional!
I personally object to being medicated without my explicit written consent with any substance, let alone a chemical fluoride which is polluted with trace amounts of lead, arsenic, cadmium and mercury, just to list a few!
I am sure that the vast majority of the citizens of Prince George would object too if only they knew all the ramifications of artificial water fluoridation!
http://princegeorgesaferwater.weebly.com/index.html
Here’s more on the subject.
“Well said! However, this fluoridation issue has very little to do with feelings! It is a health issue!”
I realize very much that is is a health issue.
A good friend of ours was a medical health officer here. That individual believes those reports which state that fluoridation is still an important part of a public health program.
The view is not unanimous. However, the question is a local one and is in the powers of a municipality to change.
If or when put to a hearing it will be interesting to hear the opinion of the current senior medical health officer.
Have you gotten an opinion from him yet? I cannot see a Council going against his position. I do not know if the provincial public health office takes a position on this issue.
http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthfiles/hfile28.stm
Link is to the position of the Provincial Health Office.
They advise to fluoridate the water and that the removal of fluoridation treatment could be detrimental.
I think that with the current Council you may have a tough time.
I had friends who came here from East Germany.
They had a problem getting proper information from the City of how they treat the drinking water with exact amounts of chlorine, fuoride, etc that was put into the water. They were easily able to get that kind of information in East Germany.
They were also very much into electromagnetic fields. In fact, they wrote a book about that which I still have a copy of.
They left the community to hook up to their own water supply and get as far away from man made emf as possible.
gus, pg isn’t interested in what the majority of the medical and dental community says about fluoride.
You ingest more fluoride just by brushing your teeth vs. what you drink in your water.
Gus: “I think that with the current Council you may have a tough time.”
No, I don’t believe so! They too share common values which all of us have, such as equal treatment of all without discrimination against anyone, even if it is a minority. The protection of minority rights is guaranteed by a legal requirement to give equal respect to one and all. Right now the rights of a minority are being ignored and thereby disrespected. Since 98% of B.C. residents are already enjoying fluoridation free water it is (unintentionally, perhaps) discriminatory to keep forcing the small minority of 2% (Terrace, Fort St. John and Prince George) to have no choice whatosever when it comes to tap water. It is by force fluoridated and the consumer has absolutely NO choice. He/she must consume it or abstain from using tap water for drinking and bathing.
A person has a choice only if there are two kinds of water coming to each residence: a) fluoridated b) not fluoridated.
That of course is not the case!
As for East Germany and fluoridation: When the unification of Germany happened about twenty years ago fluoridation was halted in East Germany to make it equal with West Germany which had no fluoridation. Since then there has been NO increase in cavities in the former East German area as compared to the former West Germany.
WHO statistics compiled over the last three decades show conclusively that the rate of cavities has been on a steady decline in the whole western world and that there is virtually no difference at all between countries which have never had fluoridation and those who are practising it.
Therefore, considering the cost and the potentional of harm to other organs in the human body after long term exposure to artificial fluoride it does NOT make any sense to continue this method of medicating drinking water supplies.
The Canadian Association of Physicians Against Fluoride (CAPE) keeps issueing strongy worded fact based demands to stop fluoridation in Canada altogether.
JB:”You ingest more fluoride just by brushing your teeth vs. what you drink in your water.”
That’s another reason to ban it from drinking water! Warnings on fluoridated toothpaste (in the USA) state that if a peasized amount of fluoridated toothpaste is swallowed to go immediately to a poison control centre for help!!! The amount of fluoride in one 8 ounce glass of PG water contains the same amount as a peasized amount of toothpaste!
This means that if you drink the recommended 8 glasses of water per day in Prince George you have exceeded the danger limit by 800 %.
Not a casual problem for any wide awake person, I would assume!
JohnnyBelt: “gus, pg isn’t interested in what the majority of the medical and dental community says about fluoride.”
Actually that is not true. But what the medical and dental fluoride say about fluoride is the same they have been saying for the last sixty years. There is nothing new or up-to-date!
If 98% of B.C. residents are NOT subjected to artificial fluoridation WHY is the medical and dental community not outraged and demanding that the 98% MUST have it?
Many of these communities had this stuff put into their water for years until they finally looked at the whole picture and voted to get rid of it! The medical community knows that NO medication of any kind should be delivered to patients en masse via the drinking water!
One day the chit will hit the fan and then watch out, especially in the States where the legal profession is getting ready with massive lawsuits!
Here in B.C. (as in Quebec which is 95% fluoridation free) it is boiling down to the rights of individuals to have access to unpolluted, unmedicated tap water!
As for you, you choose your poison or not and I choose my poison or not…who cares what the dental and medical communities say? Smoking used to be completely harmless, remember?
As if they have never been wrong before! Besides, they don’t seem to be informed or care about human rights and the law when it comes to mass medication!
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