What about us non natives ?

Marry a native

Sign up for the course and if they say it’s for natives only scream discrimination.

“What about us non natives ? “

Good question. There are/will be plenty of spaces.

I suggest you ask the colleges which are putting on these programs. They are in the know about the programs they are delivering in conjunction with industries.

In other cases, the industries have applied to put on these programs themselves if they have been delivering training program for at least tow years (in other words, that they have the experience)

This is the government site that is calling for “deliverers” of programs.

http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/sector-partnerships/labour-market-sector-solutions-program.htm

This is the company that is obviously working with the colleges to provide the colleges, as well as the students with the access to the money they are getting from the government.
http://www.pacifictrailpipelines.com

This is a new way of doing business – getting the industry to be the receiver of the funds so that there is more likelyhood of graduates of the programs to get jobs at the end.

As far as discrimination???????

There have been and continue to be training programs that are specific to a group of people.

– Women in trades/technologies
– employment preparedness training for people with “special needs”
– training specific to youth.
– training specific to hard core unemployed
– training specific to new permanent residents of Canada
– training for older workers laid off from a skills area no longer required …..

All special interest groups for whom specialized training is a rational approach.

I can remember the days when forestry workers were specifically targeted ….. no one complained about discrimination then, I believe.

Problem is there should be no labeling, all these courses should be offered to anyone on a first come first served basis. Labeling just divides people

You are absolutely right gus. Now if the headline read “Training Program Focuses on Mining Industry” then you can’t drop the discrimination card.

Exactly Pete. Programs that speficaly mention race realy bug me. Stuff like this create racism. Equality for all groups

Why do you let race bother you? I think they have identified higher unemployment rates amongst natives so they are trying to target this demographic of our society. They also targeted unemployed people on the east coast when the cod fishery collapsed, is this really any different?

You want equality, then start by not seeing targeted training programs as a race thing. IMHO

Any training avaliable should be offered to the person/persons that are the most qualified to fill the position. Once you target a specific group it becomes discrimination.

In this particular case those who are in tune with what is happening would know that the companies who are building these pipelines are making a commitment to the province, to local governments, and to First Nations who have received such rights to be consulted from governments and the courts. It is as simple as that. So those First Nations have to be trained in the same way as everyone else who does not have the skills. This money, as I understand it, is to be spent to address low skilled people of which First Nations, not as a race, but as an easily segregated group who have low skills, the same as people with no High School completion are an identifiable group.

Now, if one were to create a program of studies specific to the pipeline industry and say only those without high school graduation and without a GED need to apply, and they would select 80% First Nations, THEN those applying would have a shot at calling the race card, especially if the applicants were 90% non First Nations.

If anyone on here is really worried that they will be kept out of the loop, then don’t worry, take the steps I suggested to find out about jobs.

Somehow I have this feeling that is not why those posting such opinions care about jobs. You just want to get a dig in at First Nations. If so, THAT is racism in my opinion.

It’s fair for companies and government to advertise to a demographic or low income group etc.. but it’s not fair to exclude anyone tax paying citizens from opportunities to provide for their families. It’s not about race, it’s about fairness. Excluding people creates racism

“You just want to get a dig in at First Nations. If so, THAT is racism in my opinion.”

Well somehow I knew that was coming. Say anything about fairness for all and you are racist. Especially if it involves First Nations.

Lighten up, eh? It says in my Canadian Oxford Dictionary if you are born in Canada (or any country) you are a “native” from there. What’s in a word, eh? Look it up.

Gus…it is racism when the training targets a specific race and that what it is doing.

The natives are against the pipeline. What is the point of offering them training to work on a pipeline?

Exactly Chester, that’s why the article is about mining training. Sigh!

Silly me. I jumped to the wrong conclusion by the name of the organization. “Pacific Trails Pipeline Aboriginal Skills Employment Partnership Program”.

Gus says: “Somehow I have this feeling that is not why those posting such opinions care about jobs. You just want to get a dig in at First Nations. If so, THAT is racism in my opinion.”

Gus, you’re out of line with that comment.

metalman.