I heard the trades guys are getting a couple bucks more. This true?

That will be the end of the Pulp industry! There is no possible way any business can give a raise to any employee who packs a lunch kit. Its that damn SOCIALISM its gonna tke over the world!!! The communists are coming, the end of the world is coming. Its probably the same guys who held the Pulp Industry hostage that are going to bring the rest of the communists over to stop the pipeline to free enterprize properity!!!

I am sure the PPWC were not in it for the quality of pulp, I bet the PPWC were only in it for the money. I wonder if Canfor went to the Labour relations board to try and make volunteering part of the contract?

??? What you bin smokin?

Trades guys are NOT getting anymore money. Taxed Out! you are delirious!

Taxed out! Are you serious or simply misinformed?

He’s just trollin’ fella’s.

Trades guys should get more else they leave for greener pastures!

Pulp guys already volunteer their free time to kids sports teams and track and field.

And no one else does?

In my opinion, it is nobodys business what is in a contract for wages. That is why it is a contract, just for the parties concerned.
Who gets what in the private sector is not for public consumption….the market decides, in my opinion.

Hey, if any of these folks want or expect the same wages as Ft. Mac. Go.

STRIKE!!!!

That’s rich IMO.

just wondering why the unions dont stand up for the trades ???
Is there some thing in the hipocratic oath about standing shoulder to shoulder to help each other ???
So why do the unions not fight for what is right for trades.
And with regards to for mac comment we dont want for mac rates we want what we deserve 37/hr for trades when operators make more with out going to school its wrong.
the pulp industry need to disolve this patern agreement shit so if a mill wants to offer more than the pattern to trades it can.
The system is fucked and needs to be changed

Nice. The whole point of a union is to stick together. All u hear from tradespeople is putting themselves first. Too bad. Don’t like the wage, go to Fort Mac where u compare yourselves to.

It’s too bad very little will go into their pockets! They will make the gov happy though!

hey ballsy
it not about putting trades first its about equality and the facts show the paper operators have had there wage increase by a larger percent over the last 30 years.

The Reality is the trades in the mill I work were told if they don’t like it, leave. Guess what? They are leaving at an average rate of 2 per week. Company executive are so out of touch with the business they think these experienced trademen can easily be replaced. It takes 5 years for a tradesman unfamiliar with the industry to become proficient in a mill. The problem is getting so bad now, with the inability to keep pace with the exodus of trades experience that maintenance shuts are becoming difficult to man and are taking 10-12hrs longer to complete. Operators are now becoming nervous because there are only so many jobs at walmart to go to when the mill shuts due to efficiency losses from lack of or inability to troubleshoot and maintain equipment. Contractors aren’t the answer either. $1000-$1500 a day per man that doesn’t know the equipment = cash cow for the contractor and extended down time due to lack of knowledge.