Mayor Shari Green says Elizabeth Fry Place is a shining example of the desire of city residents to live downtown.

What would you expect Mayor Green.What a lame brain statement., Did you consult the seniors before the place was built? I for one would never live there with most of the polution from industry in that area.

The ritch people live in other areas where there is no polution but all the Seniors complxes are built next to the pulpmills and refinery. The Chatou is a fine example built away from polution by a private builder for all the weathy to live.

And the other question is why did the city cotribute to this development ? This is a Federal or provincial jurisdiction. Is this about feeling goog that seniors are moving into the area.
Cheers /

I think it’s great. Downtown can become so much more and having an active group of people like Dan McLaren putting ideas into action I hope it will become something we are proud of, not something to avoid. Making affordable housing downtown is a great step to making our city better and hater’s gunna hate, but it has to be done. Get with the times Retired’ 02. Change needs to happen in order for us to survive and this is a great positive step.

I agree, Retired has a very outdated view of the world. The wait list speaks for itself. I am one am glad he wouldn’t consider living in the area- I sure wouldn’t want an old crank like him for a neighbor.

It is great to have this social housing apartment for those who are in dire need of waht will hopefully be a well maintained developement. It is also great to have a development downtown.

However, I am with Retired 02 that the factors of availability and affordability and much greater than the factor of it being downtown which cause people to move into that location.

As an example it would be like saying that the Chateau not being fully subscribed is an indicator of seniors not wanting to live in suburbia. Again, affordability is likely the main factor with units, including meals, etc. going in the $3,000+ per month range.

Once we have enough subsidized housing for seniors that there are vacancies without waiting lists, we will be able to take the affordability factor out and look at location as well as quality of amenities, maintenance, staffing, and even residents.

The Mayor is a promoter, not an objective analyst, that is why she can make comments like: “Elizabeth Fry Place is a shining example of the desire of city residents to live downtown.”

A UNBC social researcher would need much more information than a full house in order to make that determination.

Once upon a time I lived close to the downtown. The fog and the PG odour are far more noticeable down there. Also, downtown snow removal is done in the middle of the night.

Its cheaper to build downtown as the property is not desirable anymore.. and that makes it more affordable.. Green continues to show how out of touch she is with her surroundings. You ask any of these people if they are wanting to live there because of location or cost.. of course cost. How can the residents feel safe in downtown.. I dont know anyone who does..I really hope it doesnt make these seniors and disabled easy targets for crime ..

I know this will help out the seniors and disabled which is always a good thing..but dont try to make it more than it is.

Okay, in all fairness, Scari was not the mayor when this project was started.

Only in Prince George could a guy make money off the public pursue (sale of the property to the city and likely a good chunk of money for managing the construction) and have an elected official thank him for his contribution. Huh?

I guess he does deserve some congrats for using his political connections with the province (BC Housing) to get the project built on property he managed to get off John Major for a song. And he likely deserves further congrats for making sure then councilor green and her colleagues on council agreed to kick in nearly a million in local tax dollars to the project.

Unless I missed something it wasn’t like he donated the land or contributed his own money to the project, or did he?

The mayor’s praise may be misplaced. The way I see it we the taxpayers paid for 100% of it so the mayor should be thanking us for our contribution.

So congrats to the taxpayers of PG (& BC) for funding the project and congrats to Elizabeth Fry for agreeing to manage it. They are a great organization with a good track record with similar housing projects.

I am not sure what Mayor Green not being the Mayor at the time the project was started has to do with the statement she made today that the development is “a shining example of the desire of city residents to live downtown”.

If there is any relationship between the previous Council and this project, please remember that Shari Green was on that Council and had one vote, the same that the Mayor of the day had and the same that she has now.

So, I am not sure what you were trying to say.

The only thing I will say about Commonwealth is tht many others could have done what they did ……..

But ………

No one else did ……

And that is often the problem ….. too bad that those who do get the shaft …

Money …. yes … everyone is making money on this ….

BC Housing

City of PG, supposedly

Commonwealth

Elizabeth Fry …….

And 30 or so residents will save some money or will get some better digs from what they got before.

So green, you must have your house up for sale so you can move downtown ?

Retired02, the new Hart Haven, and the recently expanded Country —— residences beside it are both intended for seniors, they are not next to any industry, nor are they only for the “rich” From all accounts they are safe, affordable, and friendly, as in neighborly. As for this latest E. Fry residence is a good addition to downtown, in terms of affordable housing for seniors, the city needs more like that.
metalman.

It will end up just like the slum hotels on Granville street in downtown Vancouver. I myself as a senior would feel safer if I lived in a cabin out on a lake somewhere, or in an old trailer, or motor home in a seniors trailer park.

Whether it will end up as a slum eventually will depend on the management as well as ownership.

In my opinion there is nothing about the design or the location which screams out “I’m a wannabe slum!”

Slums are mor often made by owners, managers and residents rather than by the design and location of buildings.

I can show people tons of building variations with similar designs and locations in one community as slums and in another community as prestige residences.