Someone get a match…downtown revitalization on a grand scale:)

good idea Lonesome :)

I didn’t realise the Ted Kaczynski fan club followed Opinion 250.

Please think of all the lives you just threanted with those totally inappropriate and insensitive comments

buildings in a two block radius were evacuated.

wow – it was quite obviously a tongue in cheek comment. I doubt anyone was truly suggesting that happen. Heck Ive seen people on here say that they should run a line of bulldozers from Victoria to the river…

Seriously though, is the contractor culpable for this? I guess they could have gotten bad information on line location too.

Given the recent events in Burns Lake and at Lakelands, I don’t think anyone is taking gas explosions lightly these days.

“they could have gotten bad information on line location too.”

Very easily. There are engineering design drawings and then there are as-built drawings. As-built drawings often do not exist. If they do, the often exist in places where people cannot find them anymore.

Underground conduits and piping should be marked as the pipe is burried by batter boards, etc. and in modern installation more likely by something like coloured geotextiles such as shown in the link.
http://www.terram.com/products/underground-tapes-mesh/utilinet-underground-warning-mesh.html

Then again, this is PG, so who cares, right?

Even when you call BC Hydro or Terasen Gas about digging they can only give you am approximation of where the line is.. you still have to take cautionary measures until you are certain of the lines location.

Hey curmudgeon…. do you really think lonesoome was saying kill all the people..of course not…lighten up bud, know a joke when you read it.. will make your world a lot more happier.

IMO
Typical,
shoot then aim..

They didn’t evac the buildings in a two block radius, just in the area of the break (one block if that). I know, I was there.

There is a code protocal for utilities and how they are marked during construction, however this is never followed by the contractors.

This is why we have lines getting hit by other contractors. If the line was burried at the correct depth (doubtful) and flagged correctly with demarkation tape (also doubtful) then the line hit could have been avoided.

The demarkation tape (generally bright yellow) is to be placed 24″ above the line or cable below the tape. The logic being this, the operator will see the tape when digging and stop short of the line below the tape. Great idea if anyone would follow the code…….

code ….. what is that …. just a bunch of gibberish most people cannot understand ….

Some of us have heard about people who cannot read, or cannot read very well … but they go through life and create all sorts of methods of compensating for that …

Well, the percentage of supposed readers who actually can read very poorly, very little and even virtually nothing at all is miniscule compared to those who work with technical drawings and interpret them very poorly, very little and essentially not at all.

Specification booklets …. huh, what are those?

Regulations … huh … bunch of gibberish!!

Call Before YOU DIG! Laugh out Loud!

We’re talking about an area that’s probably been dug up a couple hundred times since the 1950’s.When did the gas lines start going in down there. I would be very surprised if they didn’t hit a gas line, they would probably hit wooden sewer pipes LOL.

You can have the best drawings in the word and still hit the line with a bad operator or careless work practices — which is often the case.

Exactly! Like having the best book and the poorest reader.

He/she simply does not get the meaning of the book and its chapters.

That’s a very broad and damning indictment of people whom you seemingly consider to be in a lower class than you Gus.
Way to go.
metalman.

I agree with metal man. The brush stroke gus uses, once painted me overpaid under qualified to do a job he was not willing to pay for in the first place.

So tell me metalman, where do you get the notion that the people I speak of are in a lower class than me? I certainly do not think that.

I was simply writing about the ability to relate two dimensional drawings into the world of 4 dimensions, which includes the dimension of time – the change of positions of an associated series of 3D elements over time as they get assembled or dismantled.

What that has to do with class or a person being inferior or superior to another, I do not know. Some of it is simply an aptitude which people possess and others. For those who believe in aptitude tests, interpreting simple drawings is a standard component of mechanical aptitude tests.

There are people who can sing, play musical instruments, fix a car engine, etc. I can’t do those things and many others, nor do I have the desire to do those things. Does that make them superior to me, or me inferior to them? Many people have special, unique gifts.

People are different. It is a simple fact of life. End of story. Don’t make a federal case of in order to find an excuse to make more ad hominem attacks.

http://news.yahoo.com/why-people-better-drawing-others-215801346.html

If you like tests, take this one and find out which intelligence you are better at. Some people will do very well on the visual/spatial part, others will not. Some people do not care. Some people do not believe in such tests. Some people are short. Other people are tall. Some people do mnot believe they are short …. ;-)

http://www.bgfl.org/custom/resources_ftp/client_ftp/ks3/ict/multiple_int/what.cfm

Prince George should have a utilidor for downtown.

When they first started talking about the distribution system, they talked about running it under the sidewalks, I presume as utilidors.

Sapporo, Japan heats some of their downtown sidewalks in that fashion. They get more snow than we do. I do not know what happened to that concept. One hears about them, then they revert back to the same old method without providing a rationale.

That is why we have so many “What ever happened to that” questions. Hold the carrot out, then take it back without explaining why.

BTW, I believe the laneway just to the west of George St. has a partial utilidor.

Posted by: gus on October 4 2012 4:31 AM
So tell me metalman, where do you get the notion that the people I speak of are in a lower class than me? I certainly do not think that.”

From above; by gus on October 3rd 5:48pm:

“Well, the percentage of supposed readers who actually can read very poorly, very little and even virtually nothing at all is miniscule compared to

>those who work with technical drawings and interpret them very poorly, very little and essentially not at all.